fuchsntf Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 1 hour ago, gurru991 said: I would not sell Maguire fooney, how do m ? Harry is the kind of player you build a team around like John Terry at Chelsea. For Me ....Untouchable !! We spent 3 fking seasons, searching for a top quality CB fit in and replacement....... We find one in Harry, and some dozos, want to move him on... Incredible that we have posting-fans questioning his ability, potential and even the fact, he is our No1 CB/bline player. If Drago can hold and earn that other 1st choice CB role.I would as a fan like to relax and be happy, If Morgan/Huth/ and yes Benny, would hang around for 2-3 c seasons to close out their careers. Amartey to stamp his name has the competitor and cover for Simpson. I would be more th s n satisfied to see the Young Moore return and stake a claim . Fuchs to give us 1 more season, and the club to look for a young RB/LB, that can play either postion.Or see that Puel finds and considers, 1-2 young players from within, are LB/RB PL quality... I feel presently we can feel a bit more relaxed in a longtime , as far as our Bline is concerned. 4
AKCJ Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 4 hours ago, Fox92 said: He's not though. Stones is one of many Man City players that have looked so much better under Pep. We signed Maguire for £15mill from a relegated side, and he's done nothing to suggest that price should be inflated. It doesn't matter anyway because Maguire will still be a Leicester player at the end of the season. 1
Fox92 Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AKCJ said: I dont get what’s supposed to be funny. He’s had some good games for us and also made some mistakes for us (let’s recall getting turned and beaten at Huddersfield for their goal). But what’s he done to suggest his price should be anymore than what we initially paid for him? I don’t see it. I like Maguire, don’t get me wrong and I think he’ll improve a lot, but I don’t see how he is supposed to be worth £50mill or whatever made up stupid price has been quoted. That said, all players that go for that price aren’t worth it, it’s just what the player is worth to the individual club. Could we accept £50mill and get a player as good as Maguire for that price? That’s the question. But like I’ve said before, a lot of Maguire’s mistakes get glossed over compared to other players. Simpson is a better defender but takes plenty of stick on here. I think Morgan has been as good as Maguire so is Morgan worth about £20mill too? If if you want a debate about it then reply instead of just putting an emotion face. Edited 7 January 2018 by Fox92
sphericalfox Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 40 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: It's a tricky one for me. I really like Maguire but maybe just maybe the way we play suits a more no-nonsense defender than a ball playing one. For all his undoubted qualities, I see frailties, especially not being strong enough, he can get bullied a bit too often for my liking. I don't want us to sell our better players but I think Maguire can be replaced "more easily" than, say, Mahrez or Vardy. Everyone and their Aunty were looking for CBs in the summer. Liverpool had wait of course, and ultimately paid the price (literally). Man City, Man Utd, and a number of other clubs were hunting for CBs that are comfortable on the ball and can pass. Look at Evans as an example. West Brom cannot really replace him. Stats-wise a solid CB just in the wrong team. United were foolish to let him go. Now if we to believe rumours Arsenal and United are interested. City are seeking another and may turn to him again after their summer interest, but it now looks like they are aiming higher (Umtiti etc). We were interested and I don't think that it was alongside Maguire rather either/or. We need to shift Benny and Drago was a stop gap (IMO), so for me selling, especially in a January window is madness with Morgan injured and Huth not fully fit. We need to replace Morgan and Huth and need to be thinking long-term. I'm not sure Harry is easily bullied, I think he holds back due to his sheer size as it wouldn't suit him to be very aggressive (he could kill someone! ha!). I found it hilarious when we played Man City when half of their forward line were running into him and bouncing onto the deck. No doubt Mahrez/Vardy are not as easily replaced. Maguire can improve, he's still young, but that's exactly what we need to grow as a club. We can take some calculated punts with our scouting (as we have done) for Mahrez/ Vardy replacements, not so with a new CB. 2
orangecity23 Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 Anyone who wants to flog Maguire needs to have a think back to what happened last January when our recruitment team tried to sign a centre back, then ask themselves if they really want to be watching Benolouane or Fuchs at centre back for the rest of this season. 3
Sunbury Fox Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 4 minutes ago, Fox92 said: I dont get what’s supposed to be funny. He’s had some good games for us and also made some mistakes for us (let’s recall getting turned and beaten at Huddersfield for their goal). But what’s he done to suggest his price should be anymore than what we initially paid for him? I don’t see it. I like Maguire, don’t get me wrong and I think he’ll improve a lot, but I don’t see how he is supposed to be worth £50mill or whatever made up stupid price has been quoted. That said, all players that go for that price aren’t worth it, it’s just what the player is worth to the individual club. Could we accept £50mill and get a player as good as Maguire for that price? That’s the question. But like I’ve said before, a lot of Maguire’s mistakes get glossed over compared to other players. Simpson is a better defender but takes plenty of stick on here. I think Morgan has been as good as Maguire so is Morgan worth about £20mill too? If if you want a debate about it then reply instead of just putting an emotion face. I think the reason he could demand a big fee is that he has a very rare quality for an English defender - he is effortlessly comfortable on the ball. And I can't recall us having a centre half like him. Matty Elliott was the only one close in my time. Yes, he makes mistakes defensively at the minute but he has all the attributes to be a top quality defender ie strength, height and physicality, alongside his quality on the ball. Outside the big 6, I can't think of another defender like him, now that VVD has gone to Liverpool. Sadly, he'll end up at a big 6 team eventually, no doubt for a big fee.
AKCJ Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 5 minutes ago, Fox92 said: I dont get what’s supposed to be funny. He’s had some good games for us and also made some mistakes for us (let’s recall getting turned and beaten at Huddersfield for their goal). But what’s he done to suggest his price should be anymore than what we initially paid for him? I don’t see it. I like Maguire, don’t get me wrong and I think he’ll improve a lot, but I don’t see how he is supposed to be worth £50mill or whatever made up stupid price has been quoted. That said, all players that go for that price aren’t worth it, it’s just what the player is worth to the individual club. Could we accept £50mill and get a player as good as Maguire for that price? That’s the question. But like I’ve said before, a lot of Maguire’s mistakes get glossed over compared to other players. Simpson is a better defender but takes plenty of stick on here. I think Morgan has been as good as Maguire so is Morgan worth about £20mill too? If if you want a debate about it then reply instead of just putting an emotion face. Numerous fantastic individual performances and a call up to the national side, a position he now holds and will undoubtedly start in the World Cup. Yet you think he's worth 15m? He has indeed made a few poor mistakes but he's young and is playing alongside an aging Morgan and Fuchs who has had a shocking season. Centre halves like him don't grow on trees. He's been fantastic in the big games. He's been unfortunate in that his mistakes have been punished.
Fox92 Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 1 minute ago, AKCJ said: Numerous fantastic individual performances and a call up to the national side, a position he now holds and will undoubtedly start in the World Cup. Yet you think he's worth 15m? He has indeed made a few poor mistakes but he's young and is playing alongside an aging Morgan and Fuchs who has had a shocking season. Centre halves like him don't grow on trees. He's been fantastic in the big games. He's been unfortunate in that his mistakes have been punished. Fair play, looking back £15m is a bit wrong, he will be worth more than that now. I retract that comment on my initial post. 1
crisp packet Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 In terms of selling replace with who ?? All I say is two words "John rudkin ". In 2000 we was two or three players from moving to the next level. I feel we are ATM. If as a club we won't to progress " we must keep our best players" Build a bigger ground whilst your at it!!
Popular Post lifted*fox Posted 7 January 2018 Popular Post Posted 7 January 2018 honestly, people would rather see us cash in on our young talent for £50m which is **** all these days rather than see him stay here, develop and potentially become a legend. he's young, got bags of talent, bit rough (but experience will sort that), a good character and loads of potential. but **** it, let's just get rid. I mean, we've never managed to hold on to any of our other legends have we? why the **** should we settle for being the next Southampton. I hope our owners have got more ambition than some of you lot. 7
les-tah Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 3 minutes ago, lifted*fox said: honestly, people would rather see us cash in on our young talent for £50m which is **** all these days rather than see him stay here, develop and potentially become a legend. he's young, got bags of talent, bit rough (but experience will sort that), a good character and loads of potential. but **** it, let's just get rid. I mean, we've never managed to hold on to any of our other legends have we? why the **** should we settle for being the next Southampton. I hope our owners have got more ambition than some of you lot. It’s crazy if people had their way it would be Huth and Morgan for next 3 years again. “the reason being we won the league” 1
Fox92 Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 2 minutes ago, les-tah said: It’s crazy if people had their way it would be Huth and Morgan for next 3 years again. “the reason being we won the league” I honestly can't stand the "well they won us the league" attitude. 2
gurru991 Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 Maguire knows he needs regular first team football to make Russia & i believe he suspects he won't get that at Man City. Leicester represent his best interests for this season at least.
Popular Post Gerard Posted 7 January 2018 Popular Post Posted 7 January 2018 7 minutes ago, Fox92 said: I honestly can't stand the "well they won us the league" attitude. I remember someone not wanting Ulloa go to Sunderland for £9m because they didn't want to see more title winners leave. The sooner we consign the title to history and start to look forward the better. 6
Callabinho Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 I don’t think he will leave... although Man City do need one.... so potentially worrying.
roblcfc84 Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 I struggle with fans who worry about whether we will make a profit on a player. Our primary concern should be about having the best possible team, ok it needs to be viable, but no way could we find a better option who would come to Leicester whether we have 50 million or not. 1
Gerard Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 40 minutes ago, roblcfc84 said: I struggle with fans who worry about whether we will make a profit on a player. Our primary concern should be about having the best possible team, ok it needs to be viable, but no way could we find a better option who would come to Leicester whether we have 50 million or not. Really? There isn't a better centre half in world football outside of the obvious than Maguire? 1
oldbluefox Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 9 hours ago, Micky said: That won us the title. And nearly cost us relegation once the rest of the Prem sussed us out..........................
FoxinNotts Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 53 minutes ago, Callabinho said: I don’t think he will leave... although Man City do need one.... so potentially worrying. It won't be in this window
roblcfc84 Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 5 minutes ago, Gerard said: Really? There isn't a better centre half in world football outside of the obvious than Maguire? That wants to play for Leicester (which is the key part) and is available - I would say absolutely.
Webbo Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 14 minutes ago, Gerard said: Really? There isn't a better centre half in world football outside of the obvious than Maguire? If there's one cheaper than Maguire, why don't Man City buy him? 1
Farrington fox Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 I reckon he breaks the mould of our recent central defenders, in as much as he’s comfortable with the ball at his feet and can play it out instead of reverting to the big hoof. I rate him, and further more he’ll establish himself in the England side.
Gerard Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 2 minutes ago, Webbo said: If there's one cheaper than Maguire, why don't Man City buy him? You just have to know where to look and I don't think Man City will buy Maguire. Barcelona are buying Yerry Mina for about £10m. £50m would make Maguire one of the most expensive centre halves of all time, do you think he deserves to be?
Webbo Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 1 minute ago, Gerard said: You just have to know where to look and I don't think Man City will buy Maguire. Barcelona are buying Yerry Mina for about £10m. £50m would make Maguire one of the most expensive centre halves of all time, do you think he deserves to be? I don't care whether he deserves it or not. He's worth whatever people are prepared to pay for him. 1
Micky Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 23 minutes ago, oldbluefox said: And nearly cost us relegation once the rest of the Prem sussed us out.......................... They didn't suss us out. We lost the plot. 2 1
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