Strokes Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 3 hours ago, HoustonFox said: He had one meltdown when Ranieri (correctly) boxed him out but since then, he's been a good squad member and come and done a job when needed. But not loyal?
MC Prussian Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 18 hours ago, gurru991 said: Why would we loan out Ulloa. Just let him go on a free and get it over & done with. Amartey is way too valuable right now to loan out. I know there are a lot of haters here but given a chance he will come good. Why a loan? Because no one would want to take him on for full price/the full transfer fee. And letting him go for nothing means we can't cash in on whatever he's still worth. A loan deal is a good choice. Share your sentiment about Amartey, unless we have at least one right-back already lined up. My bet it's Santiago Arias. 9 hours ago, Karljohn said: Why so eager to ship out Leo? We have Slimani, Iheanacho and Musa doing nothing. Musa likely to go out on loan to Turkey. With Ulloa heading to the Championship, we're stuck with Slimani and Iheanacho. One of them could go out on loan, as well.
gurru991 Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 4 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: Why a loan? Because no one would want to take him on for full price/the full transfer fee. And letting him go for nothing means we can't cash in on whatever he's still worth. A loan deal is a good choice. Share your sentiment about Amartey, unless we have at least one right-back already lined up. My bet it's Santiago Arias. Musa likely to go out on loan to Turkey. With Ulloa heading to the Championship, we're stuck with Slimani and Iheanacho. One of them could go out on loan, as well. I hear you but in all honesty I don't feel that Ulloa has a lot of value & if we loan him to Villa & he gets hurt we are still on the hook for him. Don't really understand why we extended him.
turtmcfly Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 31 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: The new fast ball playing one we are about to buy. Which would be lovely. But my question was based on @RonnieTodger stating we should loan out Amartey even if we're not looking at new right-backs (hence the bold text in his quoted comment). In that circumstance it would be bloody perverse... 1
Bryn Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 Good move for Ulloa. Can't see Amartey or us wanting that move though.
Guest Col city fan Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 Blimey! Even I wouldn't be letting go of Amartey at the moment. He's bang average,of course, but unless we get in a proper full back (God knows where Amartey's best position is), he stays.
Wymsey Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 Hearing that an AVFC representative had been at the ground recently, so this may well be linked with this story.
Ric Flair Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 Surely we aren't letting Amartey go without at least 1 new right back and also given Morgan and Huth are not fit we're shirt at CB too. 1
Clever Fox Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 It makes lots of sense really, Move Ulloa on and let Amartey gain more experience. I'm sure there's a new right back more suited to what Puel wants being lined up ready to bring in.
sdb Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 Exactly what Amartey needs. Not sure how we benefit with Leo though. He either stays or goes permanently surely. 1
RonnieTodger Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 2 hours ago, turtmcfly said: Which would be lovely. But my question was based on @RonnieTodger stating we should loan out Amartey even if we're not looking at new right-backs (hence the bold text in his quoted comment). In that circumstance it would be bloody perverse... Probably Dragovic. Nobody seems to know what Amartey's best position is and he's been chucked in at right-back, but his performance at Fleetwood was particularly worrying. He's supposedly a jack of all trades, but doesnt actually seem to be good in any of them. He's still only young of course, so I'd be happy for him to leave on loan
orangecity23 Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Surely we aren't letting Amartey go without at least 1 new right back and also given Morgan and Huth are not fit we're shirt at CB too. We're not just shirt at centre back, we're short(s) too! (This joke socks) 1
WigstonWanderer Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 5 hours ago, FIF said: Well it doesn't benefit us to send either of them on loan anywhere. I hope we sell Ulloa to one of the many clubs interested in getting him, I think he'll do a good job at a championship team and he'll fill a gap at a low prem team without excelling. Amartey is a keeper and a future starter for our team. Well I know he’s a flexible player but didn’t realise that was in his repertoire. Kasper watch out!
turtmcfly Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 1 minute ago, RonnieTodger said: Probably Dragovic. Nobody seems to know what Amartey's best position is and he's been chucked in at right-back, but his performance at Fleetwood was particularly worrying. He's supposedly a jack of all trades, but doesnt actually seem to be good in any of them. He's still only young of course, so I'd be happy for him to leave on loan Well Dragovic isn't a jack of all trades. He's a centre back and 'particularly worrying' is how I'd describe the prospect of him playing at right back for an extended period. Looking at the performances since Simpson got injured, Amartey has in general been a pretty 'able deputy'. Would be nuts not to have him around if we don't get another RB this window.
Chrysalis Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 Probably Amartey's level a league below, odd for ulloa tho if true.
weller54 Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 4 minutes ago, Chrysalis said: Probably Amartey's level a league below, odd for ulloa tho if true. True!.. Ulloa should be playing in league one or two! 1
Chrysalis Posted 10 January 2018 Posted 10 January 2018 (edited) its odd for ulloa because of his age, loaning out is usually used to develop players, or to help recover form from injury, neither of which is applicable to ulloa. Ulloa was our top scorer in the great escape season, and has proven his usefulness in the seasons after as a valuable substitute option. He is way above league one level. Edited 10 January 2018 by Chrysalis
HoustonFox Posted 11 January 2018 Posted 11 January 2018 10 hours ago, Strokes said: But not loyal? Whatever, let it go man
Guest Posted 11 January 2018 Posted 11 January 2018 7 hours ago, weller54 said: True!.. Ulloa should be playing in league one or two! Ulloa is better than slim off the bench. He at least makes an impact.
Leeds Fox Posted 11 January 2018 Posted 11 January 2018 9 hours ago, Chrysalis said: its odd for ulloa because of his age, loaning out is usually used to develop players, or to help recover form from injury, neither of which is applicable to ulloa. Ulloa was our top scorer in the great escape season, and has proven his usefulness in the seasons after as a valuable substitute option. He is way above league one level. Villa want an experienced striker and we’d probably be happy to reduce his wages if he’s not going to be playing. The deal seems far from odd.
Gerard Posted 11 January 2018 Posted 11 January 2018 Big lump strikers tend to do better than the quick or skillful strikers if you look at the goal scoring charts over the last few years in the Championship. I personally think Ulloa will do very well for a Championship side if they play to his strengths, He's very good at what he does with his strength in the air, hold up play and finishing. A successful loan spell could easily see a £5m sale in the summer.
foxes21 Posted 11 January 2018 Posted 11 January 2018 (edited) Just seen Ndidis snapchat and Amartey is genuinely the worst dancer I’ve ever seen. Get rid Edited 11 January 2018 by foxes21
The_77 Posted 11 January 2018 Posted 11 January 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 09:53, Strokes said: How has Leo been loyal? He lashed out at the press after the club went back on its word to him regarding a transfer. He was not getting in the squad and was watching his career suddenly waste away. Sure, he's collecting a nice salary but these guys are paid to play. Had the club not gone back on what he was told, we wouldn't have heard a peep from him last year. Leo is a well-liked player who seems to approach his training and role at the club very professionally-- on top of his contributions during the title-winning season, he was a big part of helping Cambiasso get acclimated to England and has done the same for Iborra. He's clearly a guy who is willing to do the not-so-glamorous work behind the scenes to help his teammates' and his club's success. He's been a good soldier for the cause. 1
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