Would you date a Transsexual?

[Carl the Llama]

12 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said:

Robert Huth loves this game!

But I am doing this for science.

[Guest the fox]

1 hour ago, Rogstanley said:

1-Don't go on social media then.

There's no law that says you have to cheer on other people for anything.

 

2-Seems like you're just seeking out views you don't like, exaggerating them in your own mind and then using that as a largely fictional point from which to argue strongly in the other direction

 

. In reality, there is literally nobody who you need to listen to telling you that you must cheer on transsxuals. 

make sure you tell that to [insert group here] then when they get offended on that platform, or tell the onion about their eric bana piece from a few years ago....  fake news, my bad!

 

 

 

2-  isn't that what most SJW do when they find out a person who isn't 100% supporting them? talk about calling the kettle black.

 

Edited 24 January 2018 by the fox

[Rogstanley]

6 minutes ago, the fox said:

make sure you tell that to [insert group here] then when they get offended on that platform, or tell the onion about their eric bana piece from a few years ago....

 

 

2-  isn't that what most SJW do when they find out a person who isn't 100% supporting them? talk about calling the kettle black.

 

Just the fact that you're using the term "SJW" shows how you're spending far too much time seeking out things you don't like online. Nobody who you need to listen to is telling you that you must cheer on transsxuals. Go outside and enjoy life.

[Guest the fox]

nina dobrev and tom brady's wife (number 5 and 8 in that order) not trans, number 1, 2,4,and 7 are suspect, 3 is venessa hudgens and 9, i would say not a trans

Edited 24 January 2018 by the fox

[MC Prussian]

17 minutes ago, the fox said:

make sure you tell that to [insert group here] then when they get offended on that platform, or tell the onion about their eric bana piece from a few years ago....

 

2-  isn't that what most SJW do when they find out a person who isn't 100% supporting them? talk about calling the kettle black.

 

You do know that The Onion only does satire? Do you know what satire is?

[Guest the fox]

6 minutes ago, Rogstanley said:

Just the fact that you're using the term "SJW" shows how you're spending far too much time seeking out things you don't like online. Nobody who you need to listen to is telling you that you must cheer on transsxuals. Go outside and enjoy life.

i don't know what you're getting at rog, this is a forum to share opinions, people complain and other people will do the same. i don't care about what others do with their lifes, they can kick rocks  as long as they don't demand others to cater to them, but like the eric bana thing and like i said before, being neutral isn't enough anymore

[Guest the fox]

3 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

You do know that The Onion only does satire? Do you know what satire is?

oh, my bad, didn't know. 

[Finnegan]

Pretty much anyone that's ever used the term "SJW" without being ironic is an absolute tool, tbh. 

 

It's just the current catchphrase for edgy kids on the Internet that are trying to wind up everyone by calling them snowflakes. 

 

They're just as bad as the opposite, the morons just browsing the Internet for a cause to yell about. 

 

Both are essentially just trawling for online arguments for the sakes of it. 

[Finnegan]

As for the question, would I date a transsexual, dunno. 

 

I'd date someone that had all the right bits I was attracted to, which pretty much involves nice tits, arse, legs, face and a muff.

 

If I met some complete knock out 10/10 that was born with a willy would I be tempted? No idea. 

[ajthefox]

wtf is SJW?

Edited 24 January 2018 by ajthefox
Just googled it. Who uses that as an abbreviation?

[Finnegan]

6 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

wtf is SJW?

"Social Justice Warrior" a term "gamergate" / "alt right"  trolls use to describe "Liberal" trolls. 

 

Basically, everyone involved is a moron. 

[Fox92]

It's difficult because I'd obviously say no and did indeed vote no.

 

But what if I met someone, we got along, dated etc and then a few months into the relationship she went "oh and *cough* err I used to be a man *cough*" I wouldn't know how I'd feel or react.

[Wymsey]

Would dating such a term make you 'gay' or a 'lesbian'?

As long as there's a genuine bond, overall, between a pair, why does it matter?

[Guest the fox]

do i need to put quotation marks around everything that i think of as not serious? "SJW" is a term that describes (like fin said) trolls who get offended by every little things (which i understand is a bad look for anyone using it, my bad). everyone should mind their own business, it's their life. (and yeah, i know, complaining about people complaining yada yada)

[Parafox]

Some of the girls I went out with in my youth looked like blokes, so maybe I already have.

[Parafox]

Well, would you?...

 

 

Or maybe you prefer...

 

[Guest MattP]

Would any of the guys who said "yes" go for it pre-op?

Surely even the most liberal, open minded and tolerant straight guy in the World would still feel a bit gay sucking a cock?

[Carl the Llama]

5 minutes ago, MattP said:

Would any of the guys who said "yes" go for it pre-op?

Surely even the most liberal, open minded and tolerant straight guy in the World would still feel a bit gay sucking a cock?

Nope.  There's only room for one sausage.

[urban.spaceman]

Don't know if I would personally, though it obviously depends on the person. One of my oldest friends is marrying his female-to-male partner next month; he's absolutely lovely and has been through a hell of a lot to finally be happy in his own skin. I don't think a lot of people understand the psychological torture that leads people to transition.

[Finnegan]

41 minutes ago, MattP said:

Would any of the guys who said "yes" go for it pre-op?

Surely even the most liberal, open minded and tolerant straight guy in the World would still feel a bit gay sucking a cock?

 

I would imagine that if you were open to dating a pre op transsexual, your views on sexuality would probably have evolved a little beyond "a bit gay" and "straight guy."

 

Thats not me being funny, there's nothing wrong with identifying as strictly heterosexual just as there's nothing wrong with identifying as bi or gay or poly or whatever else.

 

But I highly doubt someone that's worried about how "gay" they'd feel would be dating a transsexual in the first place really would they? 

 

 

[leicesterlad1989]

I wouldn't personally but mainly because my wife wouldn't be too pleased.

I'd be very happy for any of you guys to date one though.

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, MattP said:

Would any of the guys who said "yes" go for it pre-op?

Surely even the most liberal, open minded and tolerant straight guy in the World would still feel a bit gay sucking a cock?

There are no chicks with dicks, just blokes with tits.

 

To quote a film.

[Finnaldo]

To the original question, pre or post-op, no.

 

7 hours ago, MattP said:

Nope, you've misunderstood the intention of the question (as I knew some would as they look at it through their own eyes) sadly as shown by the second line here, I'm not trying to get to the bottom of how an individuals right to choose how they feel their identity/gender is best presented, I'm looking for the response to how others look at them for doing so.

 

If a hetrosexual male genuinely believes a ex-man who has transitioned to a women is one, they would have no problem in dating "her", the results are pretty much what I expected them to be and it shows the vast majority don't believe this to be the case, we can use a lot of fancy words, claims about how it's not really about genitals, claim posters confusing gender and sex, throw in the usual cries of "transphobic" "showing your ignorance" etc to try and shut it down as is par for the course these days - but the reality of what people believe is in the result and no matter how desperate you are you can't change that.

 

As for your follow up Matt, I'd argue you're looking at it through a very narrow scope of what being a trans person entails.

 

Firstly, asking those in favour of transsexuals (in this case man-to-woman) would date one, presumably post-op, and using it to suggest they don't see transsexuals as their preferred gender, is flawed because it simply comes down to preference. You could have a bloke who doesn't see black women or asian women as attractive and wouldn't want to date a woman from either of these groups. To conclude that man is racist and sees them as inferior would be ridiculous. Because his sexual preference has zero impact on how he sees these people socially. 

 

From what I've read, transsexuals often feel like they're 'trapped in the wrong body', and presumably that expands beyond genitalia. How you present yourself socially, how you interact socially can often be different depending on gender, 'treated like a lady' is something we hear a lot generally and you could imagine it's a damn sight harder to be 'treated like a lady' when you're basically a bloke in drag. This is why trans ops are so important to transsexuals, sexuality helps, but genitalia ultimately affects how you're treated in society, if you feel trapped in the wrong body, that change is likely the only chance you'll have to seen for who you feel you are.

 

Personally I'm fairly liberal in thought, if you don't agree with transsexuals, sex changes or thinks its all a mental illness that's on you, but I don't think it's fair to brand people as hypocritical on this genitalia/sexuality issue. 

Edited 24 January 2018 by Finnaldo

[Fox Ulike]

7 hours ago, MattP said:

It's a small social experiement actually, certainly not designed for trolling or what you percieve to be as ignorance. Not every opinion you disagree with is trolling, if people took that attitude you would be considered one of the biggest trolls on the board.

 

It was also a good idea to get the debate out of the other two threads I mentioned.

 

Nope, you've misunderstood the intention of the question (as I knew some would as they look at it through their own eyes) sadly as shown by the second line here, I'm not trying to get to the bottom of how an individuals right to choose how they feel their identity/gender is best presented, I'm looking for the response to how others look at them for doing so.

 

If a hetrosexual male genuinely believes a ex-man who has transitioned to a women is one, they would have no problem in dating "her", the results are pretty much what I expected them to be and it shows the vast majority don't believe this to be the case, we can use a lot of fancy words, claims about how it's not really about genitals, claim posters confusing gender and sex, throw in the usual cries of "transphobic" "showing your ignorance" etc to try and shut it down as is par for the course these days - but the reality of what people believe is in the result and no matter how desperate you are you can't change that.

What the holy crap are you on about??

 

Nobody is saying that a man who has transitioned is a woman. Are they?? That's why we have terms like transsexual.

 

A transsexual is somebody who wants a different gender identity to the one that they were assigned at birth.  So a man who has had the op will have the gender identity of a woman.  This is the case regardless of whether you want to sleep with him or not.

 

Jeez I can't believe this is actually having to be written down and explained!

 

 

[Merging Cultures]

This thread isn't related to my "anything you'd rather forget" thread is it?

 

Does Matt need us to say that encounter in Thailand was ok?!