Well done the Thais

[thankyouleicester]

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Edited 2 February 2018 by thankyouleicester

[gerrytaggart]

Why you keep the sweet prince Mahrez in prison cell???

 

Let him be free.

[Rogstanley]

Frea Merez

[Vince Vega]

He's not free - he's a very naughty boy!

[Chrysalis]

On 1/31/2018 at 20:44, foxile5 said:

He think he's referencing the entire season he sulked prior to that. Let's not forget the past else we will be doomed to repeat it. 

Thats not a fact but speculation.

 

Some of us think his form dropped that season due to the way he was asked to play and the freedom (lack of it) he had.

 

Not to mention most of the team performed poorly that season as well.

[lifted*fox]

Struwwelpeter is full of shit to be fair and this isn't the first occasion. 

 

****ing at mahrez being practically unknown in Germany, jeez. 

Edited 2 February 2018 by lifted*fox

[Dave Fishwick]

I worry that we will not be attractive to young players in the bracket that we should be attracting because of this episode

 

We have to assume some sort of gentlemens agreement was made when Roma lowballed us in the summer that if an acceptable fee was reached, he could go, he's got his head down and worked hard and now in his eyes an acceptable fee has come in and the club is still not letting him go. This does not project a good message to other potential young stars that we are the right club if you want to further your career

 

Whether you agree with it or not, he probably sees how quickly the Drinkwater deal was done on the final day of the summer window and how Silva (barring a few minutes) was swiftly lined up as a replacement and that's why the toys have come out the pram, as he probably thinks this is the club going back on its word and then making up some flimsy excuses.

 

At the moment as it stands, we have our biggest asset gone AWOL depreciating in value,, if the club wants to let him rot that is their decision, if and when FFP 2.0 comes in it is going to be incredibly difficult for the club to release funds for players without generating some by selling, I fear we have lost our best chance to get a fair and high fee for Mahrez and that next summer due to his antics we will have to cave and sell at a price far removed from our value. I don't see them being able to talk him down from the ledge and Puel doesn't seem the type of manager to be able to grip a player. 

[Nirvana31]

13 minutes ago, Dave Fishwick said:

I worry that we will not be attractive to young players in the bracket that we should be attracting because of this episode

 

....

 

At the moment as it stands, we have our biggest asset gone AWOL depreciating in value,, if the club wants to let him rot that is their decision, if and when FFP 2.0 comes in it is going to be incredibly difficult for the club to release funds for players without generating some by selling, I fear we have lost our best chance to get a fair and high fee for Mahrez and that next summer due to his antics we will have to cave and sell at a price far removed from our value. I don't see them being able to talk him down from the ledge and Puel doesn't seem the type of manager to be able to grip a player. 

The worst for the club is that disciplinary measures will be taken against him, which will only oil-stain the already disgusting and sticky picture and reduce Riyad's value and the future cash flow to the club's account should he be sold this coming summer. Riyad, as one element, can bounce back in any other club and retrieve his value. LCFC as a complex system of a plurality of elements will not bounce back that fast (Systems vs elements 101).

[Royston.]

a few mahrez related threads to choose from so not sure if i put this in the right one.

 

assuming man city actually bid just a day before the deadline then maybe they had a little inside knowledge on what fee mahrez and his agent believe was promised to them?

 

would man city realistically expect to get such a valued player when they know we dont have to sell and can hold out for as much as we can get from such a wealthy buyer, given there were only hours til the deadline?

 

possible mahrez's agent had tipped them off and they left the bid late to avoid a bidding war?

 

actually this might belong in the conspiracy thread

[KingsX]

6 hours ago, Nirvana31 said:

The worst for the club is that disciplinary measures will be taken against him, which will only oil-stain the already disgusting and sticky picture and reduce Riyad's value and the future cash flow to the club's account should he be sold this coming summer. Riyad, as one element, can bounce back in any other club and retrieve his value. LCFC as a complex system of a plurality of elements will not bounce back that fast (Systems vs elements 101).

Let me guess.  You're taking accounting and systems engineering for the first time?  And apparently crashing and burning in both. 

 

This is about asset appreciation/depreciation, not cash flow.  And the club has many assets, a long future, and a ten-figure financial base in its owner.  Riyad has no capital, one asset, and its peak value (ages 25 - 30) is mostly contracted to Leicester City Football Club.  He can cost the club some painful value -- but by nearly destroying his own.  He has a little time to step down before his actions harden the club's position.  Which would a nasty thing for both parties.  But (worst case) more ruinous for him.

 

"Disciplinary measures" are the least of his concerns.  He'd be best advised to change course while there is still latitude in the club's response.

 

But he is not being "best advised" by any appearance.

 

 

[Guest Cujek]

16 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Why can't people understand this. It's not about the money. We don't need the money and the owners have clearly shown that by rejecting the bid. It was rejected because of the poor timing and the fact he couldn't be replaced. The club have stuck to their guns and not let city or Mahrez get their own way and i think we should be proud of the owners for that. Even if he doesn't play again and leaves for less in the summer, we've shown and big team they can't always get their own way and bully the smaller teams 

Why don't people understand it's better to not have a senior player poisoning the atmosphere and refusing to train.

 

I would have sold the mardy twat for 50p, just to show we don't need the money.

[Dan]

Big credit to all at the club on this one. Didn't surrender to the pressure.

[Dan]

On 2/1/2018 at 21:53, Struwwelpeter60 said:

 

Simply not true.

Thanks to the fact, that I have many relatives and friends in 

Germany, I can tell you  that Mahrez is almost unknown 

there. 

 are you for real? Christ almighty.

[deep blue]

With regard to the argument that Mahrez might have thought it unfair that Kante and Drinkwater were allowed to leave and not him: of course, we are all aware that Kante had a release clause. As for the lateness of Drinkwater's move and our being in a position to (almost) bring in Silva at the last minute, the key here is that we'd got Silva already lined up in the sense that he'd been scouted and wanted a year previously, and wanted to come here, even though there were still negotiations to be done. Not expecting Mahrez to leave this window we were caught with our pants down, with no acceptable replacement. Even if the club had a list of potential replacements there was no time to start the whole process with any of them.

 

If Mahrez can't see that ...

[Buce]

21 hours ago, ZeGuy said:

 

Well I do know him.

 

Give him a call then and tell him he's being a twat.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

4 hours ago, Cujek said:

Why don't people understand it's better to not have a senior player poisoning the atmosphere and refusing to train.

 

I would have sold the mardy twat for 50p, just to show we don't need the money.

Brilliant message for future transfers....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

....not!

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

2 hours ago, deep blue said:

With regard to the argument that Mahrez might have thought it unfair that Kante and Drinkwater were allowed to leave and not him: of course, we are all aware that Kante had a release clause. As for the lateness of Drinkwater's move and our being in a position to (almost) bring in Silva at the last minute, the key here is that we'd got Silva already lined up in the sense that he'd been scouted and wanted a year previously, and wanted to come here, even though there were still negotiations to be done. Not expecting Mahrez to leave this window we were caught with our pants down, with no acceptable replacement. Even if the club had a list of potential replacements there was no time to start the whole process with any of them.

 

If Mahrez can't see that ...

Also, we got more for Drinkwater than he is worth, or at least got good valuation

 

There was not a soul in the world who thought we didnt get good money for Drinky

 

The Mahrez equivalent would have been to get 80/90 mill at least

[jayfox26]

4 hours ago, Cujek said:

Why don't people understand it's better to not have a senior player poisoning the atmosphere and refusing to train.

 

I would have sold the mardy twat for 50p, just to show we don't need the money.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. The owners weren't to know he would react like this. 

[mozartfox]

Rudkin is the new Daniel Levy.  Not only has he kept Riyad but he his has got him off the wage bill too (well at the moment he has....)

[Mr Weller]

There is a long term point being made here. We are a much bigger club financially than we were 5 years ago. Some ex-players in the media don't really understand that, although expanded stadium capacity would probably help make the point.

 

Why on earth would a club that doesn't need the money sell a player for slot less than he's worth? The owners aren't bothered if he depreciates in value-it's far more important for them to make the point to other clubs that we're a force to be reckoned with.

 

Mahrez is a fool if he stays on strike because his value and potential wages will fall and clubs may be wary of buying him. He took huge sums of money with a new contract, now he has to accept that comes at a price. He, and the football world are seeing a new Leicester City ands it's taking a while for them to understand.

[norwichfox]

On 2/2/2018 at 11:38, Rogstanley said:

Frea Merez

They'll put free little plastic ones in Cornflake Packets...until some fooker chokes on him

[The Doctor]

On 1 February 2018 at 20:02, Struwwelpeter60 said:

Do you really think we will get more than 60m in the summer?

Even at 60m his transfer would have been the best return on

investment in the history of the PL.

I mean, we paid just 450k for him. Our owners shouldn't 

become too greedy. 

It's not about profit though is it? Literally no football fan has ever said "I'm glad we sold our best player because we made a 20m profit on them", no manager has ever said "we've signed this lad to flip him for a profit"... What we paid for him initially is irrelevant. What matters is what we value him at now

[4everfox]

9 hours ago, Cujek said:

Why don't people understand it's better to not have a senior player poisoning the atmosphere and refusing to train.

 

I would have sold the mardy twat for 50p, just to show we don't need the money.

I would have not sold the miserable user out of principle just to show the world we don't need money and also to show Mahrez how not to get your big move. How would he be able to disrupt the dressing room when he's litter picking the training ground and stadium post match for the next 2 and a half years? 

[Nirvana31]

14 hours ago, KingsX said:

Let me guess.  You're taking accounting and systems engineering for the first time?  And apparently crashing and burning in both. 

Thanks Doc .. you appear to be academically more fit to scrutinize a football post with the credentials needed!

 

14 hours ago, KingsX said:

This is about asset appreciation/depreciation, not cash flow.  And the club has many assets, a long future, and a ten-figure financial base in its owner.  Riyad has no capital, one asset, and its peak value (ages 25 - 30) is mostly contracted to Leicester City Football Club.  He can cost the club some painful value -- but by nearly destroying his own.  He has a little time to step down before his actions harden the club's position.  Which would a nasty thing for both parties.  But (worst case) more ruinous for him.

"cash flow" was used a syn. to valuation and face value should/if a deal was concluded. A mere asset management is not enough in this situation. Risk management is of the essence too, i.e. Riyad might have some of his value lost between now and summer if the club decides to stupidly go to the confrontation and put him to rot on the bench. He will be able to shine again with any other club in a one year period (or much less as we know him). The club however will shed a lot in the transacation compared to what it would have gotten by selling him for 65 mil + a player.   

14 hours ago, KingsX said:

"Disciplinary measures" are the least of his concerns.  He'd be best advised to change course while there is still latitude in the club's response.

But he is not being "best advised" by any appearance.

Completely agree with you on these two points!

[ZeGuy]

10 hours ago, Buce said:

 

Give him a call then and tell him he's being a twat.

He doesn't understand german.