Ben Chillwell - How far will he go?

[Swarles Barkley]

One saving grace is that Rose was completely shite and turned out pretty well

[TheUltimateWinner]

He's still very raw, makes mistakes, but he has potential. He's 21, you can't write his career off just yet.

 

I think he'll improve, iron out the mistakes and next season he'll be our starting left back. 

Edited 16 February 2018 by TheUltimateWinner

[Guest]

I think he'll be an England international and play in the world cup in 4 years time.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

10 hours ago, RutlanderFox said:

Fans are so fickle. A run of form that’s not so good, albeit for about a few months, and people are saying he’s not going to make it despite showing already that he’s a capable PL left back at the age of twenty one and it’s his first season playing first team football regularly. It wasn’t to long ago I heard a radio Leicester caller say he could be “the next Gareth Bale”

“Despite showing already he’s a capable PL left back”.

 

What precisely has he shown he’s capable of? 

 

Being very poor?

 

Seriously though in the last 12 months he has been awful. This is is what we have consistently witnessed; he can’t defend, nor pass the ball, he’s easily dispossed and hardly wins a tackle. Whilst he has shown he can go forwards with the ball at time, his end product is atrocious.

 

The ‘young’ tag doesn’t wash either, at 21 he should be better than he is now, even to be playing at Championship level. 

 

Just because Fuch’s legs have gone, it does not make Ben meet the quality we require.

 

Conclusion: we need a new left back in the summer.

 

 

Edited 16 February 2018 by NotTheMarketLeader

[les-tah]

hes made mistakes yes but there is obviously some talent there.

 

There is a reason not many young full backs break on the scene too early. They all end up dogging it out in the football league then get recognized as they get older like trippier and people like that.

[Ric Flair]

He's got to improve a lot in almost every aspect of his game. It embarrasses me that he's dubbed a modern attacking full back when his ability to make an effective cross, pass or dangerous shot is abysmal. Fuchs end product is 100 times more tangible than Chilwell's. Then we come on to his defending and I'd thought it was improving but the last couple of months there's still the same lapses in concentration and frailty to clear the ball from danger.

 

What he is natural at though is moving quickly up the pitch with the ball, he's at his most comfortable doing this in a 3-5-2 formation where he seems to find a lot of space. I think that's the system he will be most suited to for him to improve. It sounds like an almost impossible job to drastically improve both defending (his bread and butter) and all aspects of attacking play but stranger things have happened. He's certainly got a manager who rates him highly so under Puel he's got every chance of getting better but in the mean time we're being made to suffer!

[Guest Col city fan]

9 hours ago, ScouseFox said:

athletic enough to be a good wing back/winger/maybe a full back but doesn't seem to have the brain to defend at all. switches off a lot, caught in the wrong positions a lot, losing his man every time the opposition attack. 

 

hopefully that comes with time but not sure how much of "natural instinct" you can teach for him to become a good defender.

You could have written exactly the same about Jeff Schlupp a couple of years ago.

Chilwell reminds me of an athletic, eager young player (like so many of them), but with not much of a footballing brain. 

His athleticism will get him through and I’m sure he’ll make a good living out of the game.

But compared to a younger, fitter Fuchs, for instance, I don’t think there’s any comparison really. Fuchs is a very clever player. It’s a shame that physically he’s now past his best.

ps..good thread mate, as long as it stays sensible.

Edited 16 February 2018 by Col city fan

[Izzy]

Didn’t Liverpool show an interest in Chillwell not long ago? They obviously saw some potential in him. I think he’ll do well long term - he’s still 5/6 years from his prime and still learning his trade. He winds me up no end as a LB but I like the fact he’s adventurous going forward (the complete opposite to Simpson really). He seems like a nice kid with his head screwed on so I’ll still support him while he’s here.

[notnow john]

Two years ago he looked a real prospect but he's gone backwards.

Young players make mistakes and to improve, they have to learn from them,unfortunately 

Ben hasn't. He makes the same mistake over and over he must address these to realise his potential.

 

[fleckneymike]

9 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Strangely left back is the one position England seem to get right regularly. Cole was world class, Baines was good, and Rose is decent as well.

 

Chilwell reminds me a bit of Schlupp to be honest.

I’d go so far as to say Schlupp is both a better defender and attacker. 

 

A bit like Liam Moore, Chilwell seems incapable of learning from his mistakes and unfortunately that may curtail his progress. 

[Guest Col city fan]

1 hour ago, Swarles Barkley said:

One saving grace is that Rose was completely shite and turned out pretty well

If you’re on about Danny Rose? he was never completely shite. Played for England at international level until under 21 I think. He was in the same teams as the likes of Henri Lansbury, Victor Moses and our own Ash Chambers. Rose always had the potential, it was clear to see.

[lgfualol]

Hard to tell. He seems raw still but I think he still has a lot of potential to have a solid career in the prem. Certainly disagree that he is total shite like some on here think - or perhaps I just dont care as much if a 21 year old makes mistakes.

 

I think like most of our youth prospects, he was never really taught how to pass or cross. Barnes looks about the same on the ball in his handful of appearances. No composure at all.

[The whole world smiles]

39 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

You could have written exactly the same about Jeff Schlupp a couple of years ago.

Chilwell reminds me of an athletic, eager young player (like so many of them), but with not much of a footballing brain. 

His athleticism will get him through and I’m sure he’ll make a good living out of the game.

But compared to a younger, fitter Fuchs, for instance, I don’t think there’s any comparison really. Fuchs is a very clever player. It’s a shame that physically he’s now past his best.

ps..good thread mate, as long as it stays sensible.

It would be interesting to watch Fuchs at Chillwells age. See what he was like. Fuchs made his debut in the budesliga at 17 and pretty much played week in week out. So at 21 he would have been a seasoned professional with over 150 first team games to his name. I expect he would have been streets ahead of Chillwell. But everyone knows young players need games so in another season or so who knows.

[leicesterlad1989]

Chilwell has plenty of potential but he appears to be following the current trend with modern day defenders wherein he can't defend. Hopefully that comes with experience. My main concern is that he's meant to be 'attacking' but other than being great at running with the ball, he doesn't have an end product what so ever. He lacks composure. Again that may come with age. Unfortunately I don't think you can teach someone to have a good footballing brain. As others have pointed out, you only have to look at Schlupp. Great athlete but unbelievably stupid when it comes to decision making.

 

Personally happy to keep trying him. Fuchs has past his best. I think we are safe from relegation so there's no better time really for him to gain experience. I feel similarly to players like Gray and Diabate. They need game time for them to show what they are capable of. Gray in particular needs to step up but that's for another thread.  

[Soar Fox]

He is a bit thick isn’t he. 

[Cincinnati Fox]

I thought very far but recently I’m not so sure

[Dan]

9 minutes ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

He is a bit thick isn’t he. 

This, above all, is what worries me. I don't think he looks a very intelligent player.

[Farrington fox]

He’s got some potential but you could say that about loads of young players. For me the lad makes poor decisions and displays poor judgment at times, his defending and tackling is woeful. He needs to book his bloody ideas up, he’s 21 for gods sake, not 18 or 19. 

[suffolk fox]

sorry don't get the love in for Ben Chilwell.  Makes mistakes every game and for me is a poor fullback.  He was bloody awful against Watford on boxing day and every time I have seen him play since he has been shocking.

 

Reminds me of Ritchie De Laat maybe good going forward occasionally but his first job is to defend and at that skill he is sadly lacking. 

[leicesterseddon]

I was hoping for more from him this season. 

 

You have to cut young players some slack, but the frustrating thing about Chilwell is he just seems to be going backwards. 

 

It's difficult to allow him the space to make mistakes when he's playing in a position where even a minor error can lead to us conceding a goal. 

 

Frankly I don't think he's a left-back and would be better trying to be a winger? 

[RumbleFox]

It's tough.  We all obviously want him to succeed and bringing through youngsters must be one of the most satisfying things a club can do.  I think we all wanted him to come in and be amazing and maybe he has fallen a bit short of that.  However, he is very quick and seems to have the physical attributes.  He also, and I think this is more important than people often mention, seems intelligent.  Interviews I have seen with him all present a very well spoken, thoughtful player seeming to say all the right things.  At 21 I would have come across as a complete spuzzwanger so he has impressed me.  I am hoping that this means he will learn and improve.  For what it's worth I think he will become a very good, Premier League quality player and I hope that is with us.  I think he deserves a decent chance (until the end of the season and maybe the start of next) to make the grade.  Good luck to him, I hope he pushes on. 

Edited 16 February 2018 by RumbleFox

[breadandcheese]

Blimey.  He's a youngster, he will make mistakes.  The only way he is going to get better is by playing regularly and working through the mistakes.  You've got to remember that this is the first season he's experienced regular football at the top level. If the coaches believe he'll blossom into a very good player, then the poor form in his last few games will only help him develop.  

 

I also wonder whether the fact that he's not playing alongside an experienced centre back to talk him through a game, is contributing to some of his decisions. He might need more guidance through games at this stage in his development?

[Farrington fox]

Look at boy Diabatte, same age give or take. But he’s made more of an impact in, what 3 games, than Chilwell has in 2 seasons! If you’re betting on who’ll go further, I know who my monies on!

[M0901]

22 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

sorry don't get the love in for Ben Chilwell.  Makes mistakes every game and for me is a poor fullback.  He was bloody awful against Watford on boxing day and every time I have seen him play since he has been shocking.

 

Reminds me of Ritchie De Laat maybe good going forward occasionally but his first job is to defend and at that skill he is sadly lacking. 

Tbh mate not many people here are showing love at all.

 

I'm keeping faith. He'll come good. At 21 I can't write him off.

[les-tah]

36 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

This, above all, is what worries me. I don't think he looks a very intelligent player.

Harry Kane has a minor disability but he is pretty much the best number 9 in the world at the moment.