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sacreblueits442

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7 hours ago, Babylon said:

Cause Benny was ace at right back against West Ham.

 

We had no ****ing right back, so someone was going to be out of position. We could barely put a central midfield together, so someone was going to be out of position.

 

He didn't put together a lop sided squad, he didn't create an injury crisis.

.....so suddenly it's an injury crisis that is causing him to play square pegs in round holes?

He has been doing this all season, if you feel it necessary to be a Puel apologist it is up to you.......but you know your wrong and no amount of re-writing history is going to make it true.

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Stadt

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1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said:

.....so suddenly it's an injury crisis that is causing him to play square pegs in round holes?

He has been doing this all season, if you feel it necessary to be a Puel apologist it is up to you.......but you know your wrong and no amount of re-writing history is going to make it true.

He's made some bizarre decisions like James over Silva/Iborra but maybe Albrighton's stint at RB I can't think of others.

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I am with most in that we need some

investment in the squad next season, especially in light of our senior players getting old and out of pace, such as Morgan and Simpson. Fuchs is still okay with his crosses and his overall attitude.

 

We cannot fall into the same mentality as other clubs. ”Overhaul” does not mean better.  Let’s not forget we won the league two seasons ago with the same players (except Kante who was hugely important). Despite millions pouring into most other clubs - the “overhaul” you are talking about - they didn’t achieve the same success.

 

We need to dig deep and work out a way that keeps the winning mentality the club and the players had and carry on. An “overhaul” is definitely not going to bring us success. Careful planning and adjustment will. Players like Vardy and Fuchs etc with their total attitude of commitment are very hard to come by, and they are what made the success of this club. We should pay over the odds for Vardy to stay - it is ridiculous that he is on only 100k a week when he could easily earn 3 times that elsewhere and he is so important to the club. His attitude feeds the winning mentality of this club. When he goes, we will be lucky to just be in EPL let alone fans dreaming to become top 6 again.

 

As for Puel, I really like how he checks out all the players there are at the club and not rush to buy his “players”, wasting money and missing out on home grown talents. So many other clubs do that and ends up with a pile of debt and lost opportunities (eg. see Aston Villa - they specialised in changing managers with each manager buying new players, ignoring previous expensive signings and young players at the club - we benefited too through getting Albrington on a free). I say give him a chance to lead for a full season.
 

 
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Callabinho

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Those begging to see him go will regret all of this nonsense when we kick off next season with the same squad and same problems.... as a few have illuded to, a new manager coming in at this stage with a World Cup in the summer would be a logistical nightmare, and an aboveboard post summed it up perfectly, you’ll either get a last minute attempt to bring in players that the new manager wants, or you’ll end up with a load of new players that the won’t fit the new managers ideology....

 

Best thing to do is stick with Puel and just wait and see what happens... I’m almost certain that if we sack him our position next season in the premier league could become very fragile.....

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MC Prussian

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7 hours ago, moore_94 said:
Puel has the 2nd best win ratio (not including Moore) from the clubs who had a managerial change.

That was one match ago, the numbers have gone slightly down in Puel's favour after yesterday's loss (W10 D8 L11 = 34,48%).

A winning percentage of less than 35% still is pretty poor, I'm afraid.

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5 hours ago, Wookie said:

He's made some bizarre decisions like James over Silva/Iborra but maybe Albrighton's stint at RB I can't think of others.

Pushing Maguire up to CM, playing Choudhury at RB, preferring Morgan over Dragovic.

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6 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

.....so suddenly it's an injury crisis that is causing him to play square pegs in round holes?

He has been doing this all season, if you feel it necessary to be a Puel apologist it is up to you.......but you know your wrong and no amount of re-writing history is going to make it true.

At times, of course it has been. How on earth can you sit there and have a go at me, when literally the game we've just played there was absolutely no choice but to play someone out of position at right back.

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1 hour ago, MC Prussian said:

That was one match ago, the numbers have gone slightly down in Puel's favour after yesterday's loss (W10 D8 L11 = 34,48%).

A winning percentage of less than 35% still is pretty poor, I'm afraid.

Shows that Stoke sacked Hughes too soon. Why replace Hughes with Lambert, God only knows. And for West Brom to replace Pulis with PARDEW was tantamount to footballing suicide.

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1 hour ago, MC Prussian said:

Pushing Maguire up to CM, playing Choudhury at RB, preferring Morgan over Dragovic.

Maguire - Iborra couldn't play the second half, Choudhury was completely anonymous and we were playing awful against a shit West Ham and had no other CM's available to change the game. A one off caused by having only one fit first team CM and a youth CM available.

 

Choudhury - played right back at youth level and Benny was garbage against West Ham. A one off caused by having no recognised right backs available.

 

Dragovic - Nobody has any idea what goes on behind the scenes. If he's turned around and stated he's not staying, the manager is put in a position of either playing an uncommitted player, who isn't actually ours. Or dropping a popular CB who still has a year on his contract. Dragovic absolutely should have played more often based on ability, but sometimes managers have to make unpopular decisions for other reasons.

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15 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Maguire - Iborra couldn't play the second half, Choudhury was completely anonymous and we were playing awful against a shit West Ham and had no other CM's available to change the game. A one off caused by having only one one first team CM and a youth CM available.

 

Choudhury - played right back at youth level and Benny was garbage against West Ham. A one off caused by having no recognised right backs available.

 

Dragovic - Nobody has any idea what goes on behind the scenes. If he's turned around and stated he's not staying, the manager is put in a position of either playing an uncommitted player, who isn't actually ours. Or dropping a popular CB who still has a year on his contract. Dragovic absolutely should have played more often based on ability, but sometimes managers have to make unpopular decisions for other reasons.

Might also to do with Dragovic having a shoulder injury as to reason he didn't play yesterday. I would love the guy the guy to stay as I feel he's made for the prem, however I don't see it happening. But heading to the future, Dragovic is the way forward 

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1 minute ago, fox_favourite said:

Might also to do with Dragovic having a shoulder injury as to reason he didn't play yesterday. I would love the guy the guy to stay as I feel he's made for the prem, however I don't see it happening. 

Indeed, we have no idea how long he's actually been nursing that injury.

 

For all the "weird decisions" he's mean to have made, there is a perfectly logical and reason for most of them. If people think that any new manager won't make decisions they don't like or agree with, then they are delusional. I've never had a single manager that made decisions I always agreed with, and certainly not one that everyone has agreed with.

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Chocolate Teapot

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33 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Maguire - Iborra couldn't play the second half, Choudhury was completely anonymous and we were playing awful against a shit West Ham and had no other CM's available to change the game. A one off caused by having only one fit first team CM and a youth CM available.

 

Choudhury - played right back at youth level and Benny was garbage against West Ham. A one off caused by having no recognised right backs available.

 

Dragovic - Nobody has any idea what goes on behind the scenes. If he's turned around and stated he's not staying, the manager is put in a position of either playing an uncommitted player, who isn't actually ours. Or dropping a popular CB who still has a year on his contract. Dragovic absolutely should have played more often based on ability, but sometimes managers have to make unpopular decisions for other reasons.

 

Thought Benny was one of the better players against West Ham. 

 

And you can of course defend Puel but playing a kid who's made three starts in a position he hasn't played for three years isn't his finest hour.

 

And if you don't trust Benny, bring on Sam Hughes given he has played there a few times and is actually a defender.

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lavrentis

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Really we have to be careful what we wish for.

 

He's strong and principled and if the players rebel against him (Vardy), then to me that says a lot more.

Who would you rather have? Someone who thinks long term or sack him and get Harry Redknapp who might get us winning more in the short term.

 

Grass not always greener.

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3 minutes ago, lavrentis said:

Really we have to be careful what we wish for.

 

He's strong and principled and if the players rebel against him (Vardy), then to me that says a lot more.

Who would you rather have? Someone who thinks long term or sack him and get Harry Redknapp who might get us winning more in the short term.

 

Grass not always greener.

I hope I read that right - rebel against the manager or rebel against Vardy?

Last thing I heard was that Vardy was one of the few supportive of Puel, and that his comments in favour of the manager weren't just publicity stunts.

 

The players I can think of who likely had the most issues with Puel's selections were probably Simpson and Dragovic.

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1 minute ago, MC Prussian said:

I hope I read that right - rebel against the manager or rebel against Vardy?

Last thing I heard was that Vardy was one of the few supportive of Puel, and that his comments in favour of the manager weren't just publicity stunts.

 

The players I can think of who likely had the most issues with Puel's selections were probably Simpson and Dragovic.

Who knows, point I was trying to make was there's a hell of a lot worse out there

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5 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

I hope I read that right - rebel against the manager or rebel against Vardy?

Last thing I heard was that Vardy was one of the few supportive of Puel, and that his comments in favour of the manager weren't just publicity stunts.

 

The players I can think of who likely had the most issues with Puel's selections were probably Simpson and Dragovic.

Do people actually believe what players say in the media?

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