Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 9 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Drop them and leave them to rot then. Not difficult. Yes we could do that but FFP?
SecretPro Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 17 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said: Yes we could do that but FFP? We would have to find a way. Playing shit players just because we can't get them off the wage bill would be depressing as fook.
Matt Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 29 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Drop them and leave them to rot then. Not difficult. 19 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said: Yes we could do that but FFP? 1 minute ago, SecretPro said: We would have to find a way. Playing shit players just because we can't get them off the wage bill would be depressing as fook. Loan/offload them to OH Leuven. 1
oncewasafox Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 Can’t help but think that the last two games the players told Puel to stick his tactics and they were doing it ‘their’ way... ....anyone would think there was a bust up the week before the Arsenal game ? 1
HybridFox Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 2 hours ago, Liamlcfc1 said: Is this guy still alive??
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 1 minute ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: Sacked? Think you've probably been duped by a virgin's Twitter account with one follower. 1
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 2 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: Think you've probably been duped by a virgin's Twitter account with one follower. Ah well. Wishful thinking.
Corky Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 1 hour ago, oncewasafox said: Can’t help but think that the last two games the players told Puel to stick his tactics and they were doing it ‘their’ way... ....anyone would think there was a bust up the week before the Arsenal game ? Shame they didn't do it a few weeks ago.
ZeGuy Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 1 hour ago, oncewasafox said: Can’t help but think that the last two games the players told Puel to stick his tactics and they were doing it ‘their’ way... ....anyone would think there was a bust up the week before the Arsenal game ? Oh right, when we lose, it's on him and when we win, it's the players. 1
The_77 Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 2 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: Oh right, when we lose, it's on him and when we win, it's the players. We lost to Spurs. 1
Ric Flair Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 5 hours ago, Abrasive fox said: Yes because I doubt anyone will pay him as much as we do. And he's just one example I'm referring to. Remember we are still paying off two managers. We've also wasn't an obscene amount of money in the last few years, which although we've blown a load we still are in fine fettle. We can't make too many more mistakes though. I think we'll spend on the defence first and any other positions will be filled once the fringe players like Musa, Slimani and Mendy are moved on. Mahrez may well go early and then we've got the bunce but a massive void to fill amongst various other problems.
joachim1965 Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 I think it's about time the owners made it clear to the playing staff that the manager, whoever that may be is in charge and they either tow the line or ship out. This player power has to be stamped out or this club will never move forward.
lgfualol Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 6 hours ago, ZeGuy said: My thoughts as well, there is some of the deadwood which will prove to be very difficult to get rid of, if not impossible. I absolutely don't mind Simpson as back-up though. Whilst being shit forward he's still a solid defender who consistently delivers (bar his mare yesterday). Same goes for Morgan. Now if they insist to start, that's another story. It's nailed on we buy an attacking right back who is brilliant and mind blowing for a few games only to get injured and Danny 'chip down the channel to nobody' Simpson comes back into the squad.
MC Prussian Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, joachim1965 said: I think it's about time the owners made it clear to the playing staff that the manager, whoever that may be is in charge and they either tow the line or ship out. This player power has to be stamped out or this club will never move forward. Yet Puel brings Mahrez back on during his first game with us after his hissy fit in January. Didn't really help us, did it? Dealing with the so-called and often-cited "player power" looks a bit different to me. Up until the Arsenal home and Tottenham away game, Riyad had chipped in a whopping two goals and two assists in eleven matches (twelve, if you include the FA Cup quarter-final exit at the hands of Chelsea). Edited 14 May 2018 by MC Prussian
st albans fox Posted 15 May 2018 Posted 15 May 2018 Does anyone’s really believe that if puel stays for the window, he will buy players which aren’t going to be any use to us if he gets sacked after half a dozen games ?? This is is an argument which I struggle to come to terms with. if he argues that he doesn’t want a target because they can’t trap a bag of cement whereas others point out he is a willing runner etc, then I am with puel. Eg. this approach would have saved us £15 m quid on musa! i can see people pointing out that we might buy a slow tempo midfielder when we need someone quicker but I don’t see that happening as we already have mendy coming back here. if leaving him in place means we get a more structured window then keep him. this window is pivotal to the next two seasons. plenty have pointed out that a new manager may be less willing to disrupt the existing dressing room cliques early on which would leave us where we were a year ago. The only exception to the above would be if Benitez was available. 2
Rob1742 Posted 15 May 2018 Posted 15 May 2018 9 hours ago, joachim1965 said: I think it's about time the owners made it clear to the playing staff that the manager, whoever that may be is in charge and they either tow the line or ship out. This player power has to be stamped out or this club will never move forward. Player power is rife at most clubs now. You have to be a Klopp, Dyche, Benitez or similar very top manager for it not to happen. And you have to have a very strong back room team too. Puel does not have his own back room staff, so he is alone on this one and is up against players who have won the league so they think they can dictate. If Puel is to stay, expect the old guard to be gone in the summer as he will have to ship them out to survive.
NorthfieldsFox Posted 15 May 2018 Posted 15 May 2018 15 minutes ago, Rob1742 said: Player power is rife at most clubs now. You have to be a Klopp, Dyche, Benitez or similar very top manager for it not to happen. And you have to have a very strong back room team too. Puel does not have his own back room staff, so he is alone on this one and is up against players who have won the league so they think they can dictate. If Puel is to stay, expect the old guard to be gone in the summer as he will have to ship them out to survive. Who is the old gaurd ? Kasper morgan simpson vardy mahrez albrighton who needs to go ? Who is causing issues ? In your opinion
KJT Posted 15 May 2018 Posted 15 May 2018 I'm kind of in/out with Puel, Sundays game v Tottenham was frustrating. We were winning the game, playing better football and he takes innacho off also brings on Hamza on who's never played right back. That changed the game, Tottenham saw his weakness and he couldn't do anything.
CosbehFox Posted 15 May 2018 Posted 15 May 2018 15 hours ago, SecretPro said: Drop them and leave them to rot then. Not difficult. Which adds to the player power issue. An uninterested, frustrated player will cause problems behind the scenes, even if unintentional.
st albans fox Posted 15 May 2018 Posted 15 May 2018 13 minutes ago, KJT said: I'm kind of in/out with Puel, Sundays game v Tottenham was frustrating. We were winning the game, playing better football and he takes innacho off also brings on Hamza on who's never played right back. That changed the game, Tottenham saw his weakness and he couldn't do anything. We weren’t winning when hamza came on ?? We’re we ???
ZeGuy Posted 15 May 2018 Posted 15 May 2018 11 hours ago, The_77 said: We lost to Spurs. Right, I should have written "when we play well".
Blanchflower78 Posted 15 May 2018 Posted 15 May 2018 The club have got this week in reality to decide Puels future. Player targets are being identified and talks starting in numerous areas. If we are in any doubt we need to resolve quickly either way. Big summer awaits.
Koke Posted 15 May 2018 Posted 15 May 2018 1 hour ago, NorthfieldsFox said: Who is the old gaurd ? Kasper morgan simpson vardy mahrez albrighton who needs to go ? Who is causing issues ? In your opinion The general assumption is Kasper, Morgan and Simpson. Vardy is supportive of Puel. 1
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