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1 hour ago, Manwell Pablo said:

I think there's a bit of confusion as to what a natural finisher is in here, banging in volleys from 30 yards and scoring 15 separate goals that were all a bit different would make half the players in the Prem eligible.

 

Anyway, no idea why we are comparing Sterling and Vardy anyway, if it's a three it's clearly Sterling as Vardy is an atrocious winger and if it's a front two it's clearly Vardy as if Vardy isn't a natural finisher there's no chance Raheem is one, needs about 70 chances to score two goals.

 

What’s your definition of a ‘Natural Finisher’. I think that fact that for a lot of goals Vardy scores he doesn’t even look at the goal, he knows where it is.

 

It came up because Mill and Warnock were saying that Sterling would be a better 2nd striker (in a two) because he’s ‘technically better’ and Vardy can’t play 1-2’s or lay offs! Implying both aren’t natural finishers so you go with Sterling.

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Danny Mills is a massive football snob, for some bizarre reason given his own relative lack of ability. Hated it when we won the league and gave us no credit whatsoever. Picked a team full of Spuds' players in his team of the season, as I recall. Subsequently said Vardy should walk to the Emirates Stadium when Arsenal came in for him. Last night was typical of his attitude to anything Leicester. Did we once snub him in some way in the past?

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16 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

Danny Mills is a massive football snob, for some bizarre reason given his own relative lack of ability. Hated it when we won the league and gave us no credit whatsoever. Picked a team full of Spuds' players in his team of the season, as I recall. Subsequently said Vardy should walk to the Emirates Stadium when Arsenal came in for him. Last night was typical of his attitude to anything Leicester. Did we once snub him in some way in the past?

 

I get the feeling he's bitter in the way he was a nearly man with Leeds. Leicester players receiving more praise and acclaim for their achievement than he ever did in his career. Some false belief he was a better player than the squad of 2016. 

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1 hour ago, Phube said:

 

What’s your definition of a ‘Natural Finisher’. I think that fact that for a lot of goals Vardy scores he doesn’t even look at the goal, he knows where it is.

 

It came up because Mill and Warnock were saying that Sterling would be a better 2nd striker (in a two) because he’s ‘technically better’ and Vardy can’t play 1-2’s or lay offs! Implying both aren’t natural finishers so you go with Sterling.

 

 

Well that it is natural for a start off I think he’s had to work very hard on improving his to get it up a level for one, for two as I’ve always said there is some merit in saying he prefers to put his foot through things because that is actually the truth, that doesn’t mean he never scores any other kinds of goals but he does prefer power over placement. He is not your typical, Michael Owen, van nistelroy type world level natural instinctive slot it home kind of player (one of his strengths is there is more to him though) but when he scores 20 goals in the pl for a mid table team and has the chance conversion rate he does do, does it really matter whether you me Danny mills are anyone thinks  he is a natural or not finisher? Of course not. Balls is going in the net that is all that matters. It’s not an arguement.

 

He probably is technically better but he is nowhere near as dangerous nowhere near as good on the shoulder and as I said, if Vardy is not a natural finisher i dunno what that makes him because wasteful is not the word.

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Danny Mills thinks he's the alpha male in his group of mates down the pub when , in reality, they only invite him out to see what bollocks he comes out with so they can slag him off once he goes off for a piss.

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Danny Mills scrunches up toilet roll like women do when he has a shit

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1 hour ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Well that it is natural for a start off I think he’s had to work very hard on improving his to get it up a level for one, for two as I’ve always said there is some merit in saying he prefers to put his foot through things because that is actually the truth, that doesn’t mean he never scores any other kinds of goals but he does prefer power over placement. He is not your typical, Michael Owen, van nistelroy type world level natural instinctive slot it home kind of player (one of his strengths is there is more to him though) but when he scores 20 goals in the pl for a mid table team and has the chance conversion rate he does do, does it really matter whether you me Danny mills are anyone thinks  he is a natural or not finisher? Of course not. Balls is going in the net that is all that matters. It’s not an arguement.

 

He probably is technically better but he is nowhere near as dangerous nowhere near as good on the shoulder and as I said, if Vardy is not a natural finisher i dunno what that makes him because wasteful is not the word.

"Natural finisher" is just a shit cliche, the likes of Mills aren't intelligent enough to avoid parroting typical phrases. They deal in stock terms as it's familiar and they're not putting their neck on the line.

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If you don't think Vardy is a  natural finisher you're a ****ing retard. 

 

Its that simple. Look at his goalscoring rate in almost every level of football. Oh no, he took a bit of a while to adjust to going from the conference to professional football, what a failure. 

 

Man had the same ratio of shots to goals last season as Mauro Icardi for Christ sakes. 

 

Scores with his left, his right, his head, with jumping acrobatic volleys, with first time shots from over the shoulder balls, back heels, side foot flicks, you name it. 

 

What more are you after? If Vardy isn't a natural finisher there's literally no such thing. He's one of THE most natural finishers in the world. 

 

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1 hour ago, David Guiza said:

ITV punditry having a good little dig too. You'd think he'd won a competition to get on the plane. 

And Wrighty normally loves him so I was surprised by that

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4 hours ago, David Guiza said:

ITV punditry having a good little dig too. You'd think he'd won a competition to get on the plane. 

I have just seen a comment saying that they said he has never hit the heights of rashford and rashfords on another level. If this is true then they are a total joke of a pundit team. Vardy has scored more goals this season in the league then rashford has managed in 3 seasons at manchester united, Not even taking into account everything else.  

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Vardy for Leicester is 100% effective for what Jamie Vardy does.

 

For England, due to the way they try to play - especially against lesser sides, and the players around him, i'd say he is half the player he is for Leicester, if that. He becomes ineffective, his runs aren't used - its a waste of time. Kane is much better suited to nipping in and scoring in those type of games, as he often plays in for Spurs.

 

I think we need to accept that, Vardy will be most effective for England as a sub in games against similar or better opposition. Imagine him running at the Belgium defence if its locked at 0-0 after 65 minutes - they won't fancy that.

 

How personal and totally bias Leicester fans get about the whole England/Vardy situation is so so strange.

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Limited player, limited pundit.

Bad planning to find a 2nd career you're hopeless at.

I don't mind Zola giving his opinion on players but tend to turn the tv/radio down every time this useless plug starts to give his opinion.

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3 hours ago, LittlethorpeFox said:

Vardy for Leicester is 100% effective for what Jamie Vardy does.

 

For England, due to the way they try to play - especially against lesser sides, and the players around him, i'd say he is half the player he is for Leicester, if that. He becomes ineffective, his runs aren't used - its a waste of time. Kane is much better suited to nipping in and scoring in those type of games, as he often plays in for Spurs.

 

I think we need to accept that, Vardy will be most effective for England as a sub in games against similar or better opposition. Imagine him running at the Belgium defence if its locked at 0-0 after 65 minutes - they won't fancy that.

 

How personal and totally bias Leicester fans get about the whole England/Vardy situation is so so strange.

Absolutely agree. But there is a difference between saying he doesn't fit a system and outright slating his ability when he has consistently proven that at the highest level. 

 

Even taking away the bias there are very few players that I would want to call upon against the top sides when you've got your backs to the wall. He's proven it with goals against Spain, Germany, United, Atletico, Chelsea etc. However, I just can't see him starting against Belgium and other sides should we progress, at best he'll get a 10 minute cameo when we're 1/2-0 down.

 

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Danny Mills is the type of bloke who claps his hands and clicks his fingers at waiters and waitresses in restaurants to get their attention, the horrible nob. 

 

The ****ing baldy bastard. 

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1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

Tbf to Wrighty he wasn't saying Vardy was shit, he was just saying that when the game isn't going his way he needs to drop deeper and make himself available. 

 

I get that, I understand the point. 

 

Given Vards does that for Leicester though I'd say he was probably acting under orders. 

 

Moreover, I think its worth pointing out what was overlooked at half time which is that he was tying up three defenders at a time and, in addition, the fact he was pushing up and forcing them to keep such a deep line is WHY Rashford had miles of space to operate between the lines. 

 

You need to step back sometimes in sport and look with a wider lens at what's happening and what's causing it. It's an inability to do that that left Okazaki wildly under rated by even a lot of our own fans over the years. 

 

It's not always what you do with a ball that changes a game and sometimes something subtle has a huge impact. 

Spot on Finners with everything here. It was painfully obvious that was a tactic.

 

Still think Vardy and Kane is the best way to go but unfortunately not in this system.

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On 07/06/2018 at 09:16, shen said:

It's all because Vardy is so direct and doesn't have that 'technical flair' about him. He doesn't stroke the ball or play sumptuous raking passes, placing balls into the top corner.

But the way he strikes a ball with such fruitful results; his always-dangerous low crosses; his audacious attempts that we've seen on several occasions; they're all proof that looks are deceiving and that he is, in fact, very good at striking a ball instinctively.

Honestly, I still struggle to believe how good he has become. Like, how has his talent not been noticed much earlier in his career? How has he adapted to top football so quickly and developed his skills so fast that he's gone on to break records?

From what I have heard from people in the know in Sheffield, it’s because he was a real cun... I mean toe-rag when he was younger and the coaches couldn’t control him.  Being “too small” wasn’t the reason Wednesday let go of him. Having said that, he deserves a huge amount of credit for turning his life round the way he has

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