Premier League’s elite clubs secure larger share of TV money

[jonthefox]

If it’s the clubs overall aim to be a top 6 club , then it makes perfect sense to me that we voted yes.

[treer]

the arguments put forward are senseless how the smaller clubs have succumbed to them is baffling.

No1 argument

"If you dont agree we may form a euro super league"

this will never happen  for example  a super league would mean only one big club could win each year instaed of 5  or 6 winners like now,

Liverpool and Spurs could go 50 years without  a trophy, and the fanbase would dwindle, it would be a disaster for most of the so called big clubs.

 

No2 argument

Armchair fans only want to watch the big clubs, true to an extent, but if they only played each other interest would soon dwindle when Man U played Liverpool for 10th time this season.

Its the variety , and big possibly of shocks (compared to other leagues)of the PL that gets the big worldwide audiences.

 

 

[Rusko187]

How is it that it used to be "The Top 4" and now because some of these clubs recognise they can fail it's now "The Big 6"?

Money should be split equally, it makes for an exciting and unpredictable league which in my eyes makes the Premier League the best in the world! Not like Bundesliga or Ligue 1 where you can throw your mortgage at the likes of Bayern winning next season.

[Ian Nacho]

I've not read the entire article but I suppose it's fair. Being unbiased as I can people around the globe don't really tune in to watch Leicester, they tune in to watch your Liverpool's.

[treer]

51 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

don't really tune in to watch Leicester

well sky got the biggest audiences ever when Leicester were wining the league

[WigstonWanderer]

Does anyone know how this is actually being done? If it’s just an increase in the “per position” share of the tv revenue, presumably all clubs in positions 1 to 10 will benefit at the expense of clubs in the 11th to 20th slots.

 

Clubs aspiring to top half finish might explain the vote.

[Heathrow fox]

On 08/06/2018 at 09:56, treer said:

the arguments put forward are senseless how the smaller clubs have succumbed to them is baffling.

No1 argument

"If you dont agree we may form a euro super league"

this will never happen  for example  a super league would mean only one big club could win each year instaed of 5  or 6 winners like now,

Liverpool and Spurs could go 50 years without  a trophy, and the fanbase would dwindle, it would be a disaster for most of the so called big clubs.

 

No2 argument

Armchair fans only want to watch the big clubs, true to an extent, but if they only played each other interest would soon dwindle when Man U played Liverpool for 10th time this season.

Its the variety , and big possibly of shocks (compared to other leagues)of the PL that gets the big worldwide audiences.

 

 

Excellent post,glory fans support big clubs because they win things simple fact.For example who would be interested in 17th placed Arsenal  v 18th placed Benfica in February with no relegation to spice things up.

 

However i have thought about this and have come up with a system.It would be very similar to the USA way of doing things.Spilt Europe into zones eg north south east and west with groups made up of six teams.

 

There would be two conferences in each zone so 48 teams in total.About enough places to give our very own top six a berth each.Fixtures would be worked out so teams would play other teams from other groups aswell as their own.Sixteen matches would be about right.

 

The winners of each group would get a nice shiny trophy.Then each conference would have its own knock out play off competition with the winners getting an even bigger shiny trophy.The two conference winners would play each other in a super dupa mega final and would be crowned champions of Europe.

 

Money would be spilt equally from the tv pool with bonuses given for how far you progress.In total teams would play on average 20 games meaning no burn out which would keep the standard high.

 

Relegation would be worked out using a coefficient type method.With teams constantly finishing bottom being voted out.Promotion into this super league would be decided by clubs turnover.

 

The Man Us would put their B teams into the remaining English top flight,which would still be quite a competitive competition due to the compensation handed down by the big league.

 

So we have a competition which hands out 3 shiny trophy’s or four if you throw in a FA Cup style knock out cup.Less matches meaning higher standards and more massive matches keeping the tv company’s happy.UEFA would love it and so would the X Box generation.This hell is coming?

 

[whetstonefox]

In many ways I should be against this but you could say so many teams are only interested in finishing above the dreaded dotted line they lose all ambition. At least if more money is based on finishing positions it might make some clubs more committed to winning games than boring their way to survival , but recognise it is a case of the bigger clubs probably being greedy.

[ealingfox]

Said this many times but if those clubs threaten to break off and join a European Super League then they should absolutely be called out on it - so long, good riddance.

 

Ask anyone you know who is a proper supporter of any of those clubs if they'd back it over being in the PL. They'd be horrified. I don't think the idea would get off the ground because the fans who actually go to games wouldn't support it. Even if the clubs sacked off the entirety of the most loyal part of their fanbases and went ahead with it anyway, the PL would be better off without them.

[lancyclaret]

To make PL less boring with teams parking the bus....0-0 draw = 0 points.

[Fox92]

5 minutes ago, lancyclaret said:

To make PL less boring with teams parking the bus....0-0 draw = 0 points.

How is that fair?

If a team wants to go and park the bus, then so be it. Why should teams who have small budgets and need points to stay in the league (Huddersfield as a recent example) have to attack at Anfield, at Old Trafford, at the Etihad? There's nothing better than seeing an underdog go and win somewhere (ie WBA at Old Trafford this season).

 

I hate the whole "oh they parked the bus". If parking the bus works for the opposition and they get a point then fair play.

 

If the PL wants to be less boring then it should re-consider how much money is getting thrown at certain clubs and clubs should be more equal.

Edited 10 June 2018 by Fox92

[Heathrow fox]

Trust me this is coming,there’s not many true fans of top six clubs left that can actually go to games.The EA Sports kids don’t care about Burnley.they want Real v Barca on repeat and the powers that be know that.Nor do I think the foreign owners would care about the effect downwards on our leagues.The clues in the name.

 

[Corky]

1 hour ago, ealingfox said:

Said this many times but if those clubs threaten to break off and join a European Super League then they should absolutely be called out on it - so long, good riddance.

 

Ask anyone you know who is a proper supporter of any of those clubs if they'd back it over being in the PL. They'd be horrified. I don't think the idea would get off the ground because the fans who actually go to games wouldn't support it. Even if the clubs sacked off the entirety of the most loyal part of their fanbases and went ahead with it anyway, the PL would be better off without them.

Those clubs are built presently on domination and winning most games- in any league someone has to be bottom and any of those clubs who is beaten regularly by other big clubs will get fed up after a while. The glory fans would fvck off soon enough after a couple of seasons of struggle in a European league.

 

[Heathrow fox]

Not in a format where every game counts it wouldn’t,and where every match is a massive event.The glory fans would support who was winning all the time anyway.This is just the top of a very slippery slope

 

 

 

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, lancyclaret said:

To make PL less boring with teams parking the bus....0-0 draw = 0 points.

That's genius!

 

For me football is about entertainment, nothing worse than sitting down to watch a game where a team cant be arsed to try and win. Even worse when both teams arent arsed.

Edited 10 June 2018 by filbertway

[Foxxed]

I wonder how much the term 'European super league' played a role in continuing to funnel more and more money into the big clubs.

[Wymsey]

Wonder when the bubble will burst on this and football actually starts to suffer as a consequence.

[Dan]

I think a lot of these that want to see a European super league are too thick to realise why fundamentally it would be a horrible idea.

 

I'm absolutely fed up of football pandering to those who aren't really proper fans.

[Webbo]

Why would the big 6 clubs want a European Super League now when they get far more money (with the possible exception of real Madrid and Barcelona) than any other top European Club? If they had a super league they'd have to share that money. It might have made some sense once, it might do again in the future but ,atm it would be crazy.

[HighPeakFox]

Those with obscene money only have one thing in mind. More money. It's way too late to be concerned about the fate of proper fans - I'm afraid that ship sailed some time ago. 

Edited 10 June 2018 by HighPeakFox

[Raw Dykes]

Absolutely crazy. More should be done to level the playing field, not make the situation even worse. We'll end up with a Scottish or Spanish type of league, where you can predict the top couple of clubs every damn season, doing shit like this.

 

Makes no sense to me at all.

[WigstonWanderer]

10 minutes ago, Raw Dykes said:

Absolutely crazy. More should be done to level the playing field, not make the situation even worse. We'll end up with a Scottish or Spanish type of league, where you can predict the top couple of clubs every damn season, doing shit like this.

 

Makes no sense to me at all.

I’m afraid that’s modern capitalism. Rich get richer.

[TheStig]

Who are the "big 6" then? Man City - Man Utd. - Arsenal - Liverpool - Chelsea - Tottenham........

 

When did Arsenal last win anything apart from the FA Cup? When did Liverpool? When did Tottenham? There cannot be a "big six" when half of them have won f... all. Its a myth for the armchair fans. Let them break out of the league and play each other 8 times a year. That would be interesting or?

In my opinion all teams should get the same share of the spoils - whats happening now will result in the PL ending up like the Spanish League (Barca + Real M), Germany (Bayern M), France (PSG) - is that very interesting. A suggestion could be to wage cap (like in the US NFL) which evens out the competition and makes it at least difficult to buy a league win like Man City are doing these days. 

[Raw Dykes]

29 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

I’m afraid that’s modern capitalism. Rich get richer.

Yeah. You're right. It needs regulating more. If you look at American sports, they're set up to make it fair to all teams by giving a leg up to the weakest. No one team dominates for a long time. I like the parity. I think it's tougher to implement that in a pyramid system with relegation and promotion, but much more can be done to prevent a handful of clubs gaining a monopoly over everyone else.

[southfox66]

I dont know why people are surprised by this 1 thats the way of the world that the elite will always profit while the rest will have to struggle to make ends meet and 2 most fans outside premier and global will find matches between the elite more appealing than Huddersfield v Brighton