Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 People turning their nose up at a Spanish international with a goal every other game at that level and on the books of the best club in the world? Give your head a wobble.
MC Prussian Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 When's the last time we signed somebody from Barcelona?
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 30 July 2018 Popular Post Posted 30 July 2018 1 minute ago, Abrasive fox said: People turning their nose up at a Spanish international with a goal every other game at that level and on the books of the best club in the world? Give your head a wobble. It's more about the fact we have greater need elsewhere. We could be signing Lewandowski and I'd be concerned given I've no idea where the **** he'd be getting service from. 7 1
psychonaut Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 2 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Because he would play in games where they were struggling to break sides down. They'd move Messi into a more central position and get him out on the wing with Suarez up front. He's a striker. A Striker/Wide man ??
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 3 minutes ago, Finnegan said: It's more about the fact we have greater need elsewhere. We could be signing Lewandowski and I'd be concerned given I've no idea where the **** he'd be getting service from. He's played wide right enough from what i've seen.
AKCJ Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, psychonaut said: A Striker/Wide man ?? He's a winger in the same way that Gray is a striker or that Dragovic is a right back. Edited 30 July 2018 by AKCJ 2
AjcW Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 Just to clarify, I have no issues with signing him, or signing him on loan. Think it would be an excellent signing. Just concerned that we can't even seem to be able to stump up a loan fee!
Fosse93 Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 Just now, Abrasive fox said: He's played wide right enough from what i've seen. Do you know if we're interested?
ARM1968 Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 Just get him in. Loan is fine. See what he can do. Not much downside.
Ric Flair Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 There's no denying he's absolutely mustard and for us to even have half a sniff of him is tempting but..... Where do we fit him in? Iheanacho has to play more than he did last season otherwise it's another waste of a lot of money and he'll want out. The only way this works is if he's played in a front 3 but then where does Maddison fit in there?
psychonaut Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 1 minute ago, AKCJ said: He's a winger in the same way that Gray is a striker. But what about as part of a front 3 or as part of the support 3 behind Vardy? Sort of like the old Inside Right/Left forwards... that's not a winger
psychonaut Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 Just now, Ric Flair said: There's no denying he's absolutely mustard and for us to even have half a sniff of him is tempting but..... Where do we fit him in? Iheanacho has to play more than he did last season otherwise it's another waste of a lot of money and he'll want out. The only way this works is if he's played in a front 3 but then where does Maddison fit in there? Maddison by his own admission is not comfortable at all in a wider position but perhaps he was talking about being on the wing instead of a front 3 or 3 behind the Striker. I'd imagine it would be either him or Iheanacho behind Vardy in a 4-2-3-1
AjcW Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 Two options to fit him in 4-3-3 with two holding mids and Maddison roaming forward. 3-5-2 with two central mids and Maddison in AMC
Finnegan Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said: He's played wide right enough from what i've seen. He's a striker. Barcelona subscribe to total football so you're expected to fit anywhere across the forward line but he isn't really, its why he's not really settled. He can't dislodge Suarez and they'd rather Sergi Roberto or Rafinha out wide because they do a better job. Paco isn't a winger, he's a 9 or an emergency 10. A good one, by the way, he's a bit of a Falcao or a Superpippo, a classic poacher. He's got great movement in the box and he's quick over the first few yards (and like a donkey after that.) You see any of Valere Germain for Monaco in their champions league run? He's a bit like that but somewhat more prolific. Kinda like a short arse Harry Kane. Edit: basically a Spanish Tony Cottee. Valencia have been one of my favourite Spanish teams since they had Villa, Silva and Mata all at once. I like them and I used to like watching Alcacer, he's a great player and I can see him leaving Barca for a Sevilla or Valencia and having a strong career in domestic and European football. I just don't see how he fits in for us right now and we have greater need elsewhere. Edited 30 July 2018 by Finnegan 2
RowlattsFox Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 (edited) It looks like we're going to use 'wide forwards' with flexibility where one of them will be more central behind the striker (probably Vardy). Essentially a 4-2-4 when we're at home against shit who put everyone behind the ball. Also think we need a better option to replace Vardy because it might need to happen more than it has done in the past. Edited 30 July 2018 by RowlattsFox
TheUltimateWinner Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 Can understand the worry and it is justified On the face of it, signing one of Barcelonas hottest prospects? Fantastic. However he's another striker and we have far too many (6 for a side that plays with one up top and that man will always be Vardy until he leaves). If we really are spending big bucks on him then I'm worried as to what our recruitment team's priorities are.
80footgiraffe Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 38 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: You contradict yourself within two sentences. Well done. I mean within the window. All year we should be looking so in the off season we can work quickly.
Ric Flair Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 3 minutes ago, AjcW said: Two options to fit him in 4-3-3 with two holding mids and Maddison roaming forward. 3-5-2 with two central mids and Maddison in AMC 3-4-1-2 makes so much sense with the players we have available, we'd be just one more centre half short and we'd be much more balanced. The 2 in and around Vardy could be any of Maddison/Iheanacho/Gray/Diabate/Musa/Alcacer, that's if we struggle to offload Musa. There's variations as well where we could go 3-4-3 with Gray and Alcacer either side. But I'm at risk of sounding like one of the swap the kop and family stand brigade. 8 minutes ago, psychonaut said: Maddison by his own admission is not comfortable at all in a wider position but perhaps he was talking about being on the wing instead of a front 3 or 3 behind the Striker. I'd imagine it would be either him or Iheanacho behind Vardy in a 4-2-3-1 Maddison clearly is direct and doesn't want to lose that from being up and down the wing and rightly so, he's the number 10 we've been crying out for so to then play him in a wider role would be scandalous.
Scotch Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 I'm now almost completely convinced we will play 442 diamond this year. Two attacking full backs. A proper no.10 Able to play two decent options up front. (Especially if we get Paco) Gray has mentioned playing through the middle which would add depth at that position. Plenty of options at CM. Puel knows and has used the system. Not being seriously linked with any wingers Everything seems to point towards it. Kasper Pereirra Maguire Evans Chilwell Ndidi Iborra Silva Maddison Nacho/paco Vardy Subs. Ward Wes Choudhury Musa Gray Nacho/Paco Fuchs
KFS Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 1 minute ago, Foxy_Bear said: I'm now almost completely convinced we will play 442 diamond this year. Two attacking full backs. A proper no.10 Able to play two decent options up front. (Especially if we get Paco) Gray has mentioned playing through the middle which would add depth at that position. Plenty of options at CM. Puel knows and has used the system. Not being seriously linked with any wingers Everything seems to point towards it. Kasper Pereirra Maguire Evans Chilwell Ndidi Iborra Silva Maddison Nacho/paco Vardy Subs. Ward Wes Choudhury Musa Gray Nacho/Paco Fuchs I like it id we can make it work
Babylon Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 Didn't Puel use a 41212 somewhere previously, not really using wingers and having the full backs provide the width? Maguire Evans Ricardo Chillwell Iborra N'didi Silva Maddison Paco Vardy Again, if these moves were going to take place you'd think we'd have seen evidence of them. 1
MC Prussian Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 27 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: There's no denying he's absolutely mustard and for us to even have half a sniff of him is tempting but..... Where do we fit him in? Iheanacho has to play more than he did last season otherwise it's another waste of a lot of money and he'll want out. The only way this works is if he's played in a front 3 but then where does Maddison fit in there? Alcacer can play on the right wing, if need be. But yes, his true position is as a striker. Still, I think we need a bit of versatility up front, with players swapping positions more often than not.
Finnegan Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 Just to satisfy @Ric Flairs masturbatory needs: That's: Kasper Mina, Evans, Maguire Ricardo, Silva, Ndidi, Chilwell Alcacer, Maddison Vardy 1
lcfc sheff Posted 30 July 2018 Posted 30 July 2018 6 minutes ago, Babylon said: Didn't Puel use a 41212 somewhere previously, not really using wingers and having the full backs provide the width? Maguire Evans Ricardo Chillwell Iborra N'didi Silva Maddison Paco Vardy Again, if these moves were going to take place you'd think we'd have seen evidence of them. Maddison basically becomes the Ben arfa of Puels Nice side
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