The "do they mean us?" thread pt 2

[nwl fox]

20 minutes ago, Christoph said:

Yes because doping amongst elite athletes is definitely unheard of.  You would be shocked how common PED use is amongst elite athletes. Just look at Lance Armstrong and the rest of the cyclists who were all caught after for using EPO. 

 

Don't get me wrong maybe they weren't but if it came out that they were doping then I wouldn't be THAT surprised.   

 

 

It's bad enough having to put up with that  nonsense off the bitter Arsenal & Spurs fans, stop feeding the bitter bullshit.

[davieG]

47 minutes ago, Christoph said:

I do kinda think that year our players must have been on some peds or something though. The energy our team had in that season was something I haven't seen before or after since. They were on that EPO shit or something i'm sure of it lol. 

We pretty much only had the League to deal with we were out of both Cups early and weren't involved in Europe like the teams who were challenging us.

 

Liverpool were pretty gung-ho last season. 

[Fox92]

On 01/11/2020 at 10:16, urban.spaceman said:

 

Another shit argument.

 

However I do wish we weren't so bad the following season. I wish we'd have finished top 6. The one thing that's annoying is that we came out of nowhere and had one good season where as most title wins are built up before.

[davieG]

4 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Another shit argument.

 

However I do wish we weren't so bad the following season. I wish we'd have finished top 6. The one thing that's annoying is that we came out of nowhere and had one good season where as most title wins are built up before.

There's a lot to be said and agreed with it being a perfect storm, brilliant team spirit on the back of the great escape, arguably 3 World Class players coming together, new manager bounce, out of the cups early, no euro comps, very few injuries, typical challengers failing, after all our biggest challenger was Spurs.

 

Surely if there was any truth in our win being dodgy then it must also include Spurs.

[don_danbury]

1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

1-0 edgy wins has won titles for clubs long before we shook up the league. For something like that to work, not only to the refs have to be in on it but every other club as well. It’s really a daft comment by this individual. Essentially suggesting every team sat down at the start of the season and agreed that Leicester would win it and they’d all play a part. Nonsense. 

i can only remember about 3 being edgy. norwich at home, palace away and southampton. 

[ARM1968]

1 hour ago, Danizen said:

He probably took a break from telling everyone that 5G causes COVID to post that.

What a tool. Everyone knows COVID causes 5G

[CosbehFox]

To be fair everyone, we could always sit there watching a total borefest between teams placed 12th and 15th at the time of playing and have it dressed up as a Super League. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

49 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

i can only remember about 3 being edgy. norwich at home, palace away and southampton. 

You have stronger nerves then me. Not that it was a criticism of the players. Its just the way it is. Can remember every game from the Norwich one up and until Chelsea beat Spurs having me in a bag of nerves. The exception of the Swansea win. West Ham 2-2 and Sunderland first half had me jumping around like I had piles! What a great time!

[don_danbury]

18 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

You have stronger nerves then me. Not that it was a criticism of the players. Its just the way it is. Can remember every game from the Norwich one up and until Chelsea beat Spurs having me in a bag of nerves. The exception of the Swansea win. West Ham 2-2 and Sunderland first half had me jumping around like I had piles! What a great time!

i forgot that spurs game tbh. one of the most satisfying results that season.

[davieG]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reality-check-leicester-city-humble-4663331

 

'Utterly dominant' - Mail Online
Brendan Rodgers could barely fault his players as Leicester went second in the Premier League with an impressive 4-1 win over Leeds.

Harvey Barnes, Youri Tielemans (two, one penalty) and Jamie Vardy all found the net on a night that had looked beforehand as though it could provide Rodgers' men with problems.

But the Foxes were utterly dominant on a sodden night at Elland Road and, short of a 20-minute spell in the second half after Stuart Dallas pulled a goal back, rarely looked ruffled.

'Counter-attack ' - Metro
Leicester's superb start to the season continued as they powered to a comfortable victory at Elland Road which moved them into second place in the Premier League.

Goals from Harvey Barnes, Youri Tielemans (two) and top scorer Jamie Vardy ensured the three points for the Foxes, who have won four out of four in the league away from home.

Brendan Rodgers set his team up to counter-attack a home side who have made a real impact on their return to the top flight.

'Reality check' - Independent
In-form Leicester gave Leeds a Premier League reality check as they went second with an impressive 4-1 win at Elland Road.

First-half goals from Harvey Barnes and Youri Tielemans, bookended by two poor Patrick Bamford misses, had the Foxes in complete control on a sodden Yorkshire night.

Stuart Dallas gave Leeds hope immediately after the break and the home side hit the bar and pressed hard before City ran out comfortable winners thanks to Jamie Vardy's strike and a Tielemans penalty.

Leeds have earned many plaudits since their top-flight return and in their previous losses, to Liverpool and Wolves, there were arguments to be made for them deserving something, though the same could not be said here.

Full story

'Unfailing appetite and opportunism' - Guardian
Leicester are up to second in the table after a fourth successive away win in the Premier League.

This was Leeds’ heaviest defeat of the season and, had they finished more clinically, Leicester might have run up an even more painful scoreline at Elland Road.

The home side showed resilience to overcome a dreadful start to be in with a chance of a draw in the second half but they were eventually undone, as a few more sides will surely be this season, by the unfailing appetite and opportunism of Jamie Vardy.

Full story

 

'Humbling of Leeds' -  talkSPORT
Leicester moved up to second in the Premier League table with a 4-1 win at in-form Leeds on Monday evening.

The humbling of Leeds means the Foxes have won five out of their opening seven top-flight matches for the first time in their history.

Brendan Rodgers’ side are now just one point from leaders Liverpool, while Leeds drop to 12th place.

[Dahnsouff]

Using our full backs without Ricardo and Chilwell (Bit old but still relevant)

 

https://theathletic.co.uk/2161218/2020/10/26/leicester-city-rodgers-full-backs-pressing-possession-arsenal/

 

Difference in full-back usage
With Ben Chilwell moving to Chelsea over the summer, and Ricardo Pereira still on the sidelines with a serious knee injury that will keep him out until at least December, full-back is the least recognisable position for Leicester in 2020-21. James Justin and Timothy Castagne have so far played every minute of the season, on the left and right respectively.

This is not Justin’s first rodeo at full-back, given he played 1,010 minutes there last season, although just 100 of those were on the left.

The faces have changed, but so have the roles. While Chilwell’s interpretation of the position was as something of a creator and progressor, Justin’s is based on well-timed runs to add to the attacking threat.

Chilwell last season created 1.3 chances per 90 minutes, whereas Justin is averaging just 0.5 this term. The quality of those chances differs a lot too — Chilwell’s expected assists per 90 of 0.15 is much higher than Justin’s 0.03. Some of that could be explained by Justin being naturally right-footed, so perhaps not having the angles available to him on the left that Chilwell did.

It’s a similar story in terms of progressing the ball upfield. Chilwell was responsible for 14 per cent of Leicester’s passes into the final third last season — 7.9 per 90, whereas Justin has been responsible for just six per cent of them over their first six games, equating to 2.8 per 90.

Justin makes up for some of that drop-off with his attacking runs into the box and, although he’s only had two shots so far, the chances were both of high quality.

The first evidence of this was against Burnley on September 20. Here, Justin is hovering just outside the six-yard box after Harvey Barnes goes on a mazy run.

 

There is plenty more on this at The Athletic

[Vacamion]

 

I enjoyed this morning's report of the match in The Times, which suggested that Jamie Vardy has discovered a new route to goal, via the Under pass.  

 

 

 

 

[Out Foxed]

57 minutes ago, Vacamion said:

 

I enjoyed this morning's report of the match in The Times, which suggested that Jamie Vardy has discovered a new route to goal, via the Under pass.  

 

 

 

 

quite fitting considering the traditional post win celebrations 

[Captain...]

23 hours ago, Christoph said:

Yes because doping amongst elite athletes is definitely unheard of.  You would be shocked how common PED use is amongst elite athletes. Just look at Lance Armstrong and the rest of the cyclists who were all caught after for using EPO. 

 

Don't get me wrong maybe they weren't but if it came out that they were doping then I wouldn't be THAT surprised.   

 

 

Is taking PEDs doesn't explain why all the Sky 6 teams underperformed.

 

Our tally of 81 points was a par amount for a title up to then, but Arsenal next best on 71 is way below par for second place. The following season 71 would have got you 6th.

 

If any illegal drugs were used it was in an extensive doping campaign in the North West and London areas.

[Buce]

 

Can Leicester win the League?

 

A surprising answer from Chris Sutton:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54788786

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, Buce said:

 

Can Leicester win the League?

 

A surprising answer from Chris Sutton:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54788786

To be fair to him, he's been asked the right question, and he's given the right answer - we can. Will we? Probably not. Can we? For sure.

 

Good to see you again @Buce

[Guest Markyblue]

8 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Can Leicester win the League?

 

A surprising answer from Chris Sutton:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54788786

52% saying we can in that bbc poll. 🤔

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, Markyblue said:

52% saying we can in that bbc poll. 🤔

I'd say that's pretty high, given it's open to all comers.

[Buce]

Just now, HighPeakFox said:

I'd say that's pretty high, given it's open to all comers.

 

I think we are finally being recognised for the good side that we are.

 

It's great isn't it?

[Guest Markyblue]

Just now, HighPeakFox said:

I'd say that's pretty high, given it's open to all comers.

I thought at the start of the season it might be a strange year with no fans, maybe a spurs wolves Everton title, why not Leicester doing a leicester. 

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, Buce said:

I think we are finally being recognised for the good side that we are.

 

It's great isn't it?

Winning at Citeh, Arsenal and Leeds without being pure kick & rush will do that. I know we fell away last season, but still nearly finished 4th despite that. That sort of talent being added to and managed better gets noticed eventually.

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, Markyblue said:

I thought at the start of the season it might be a strange year with no fans, maybe a spurs wolves Everton title, why not Leicester doing a leicester. 

Yes. I can see it being written off as a freak again though should the Big Bollocks 6 all fail. I suppose they might have a point too to a degree. I must say I don't do TalkSport or Sky, so I miss out on their agendas, but even listening to decent quality stuff like Totally Football podcast, the narrative always centres around the failure of the big clubs being about them, rather than the quality of Leicester (or anyone else for that matter), and thus it becomes no better really in its output. They don't cover EL matches, yet do an extra cast for ECL, and any Leicester win gets damned with faint praise at best. 

 

I'm not up in arms about this because I support Leicester, it bothers me because it is so embedding this idea that the whole English game is about Liverpool, the Manchesters, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea - whether they intend to or not, their input constantly reinforces the notion that a Leicester (or indeed another team) win or run of results is an entire sideshow, an outlier to be rubbished or diminished.

[Guest Markyblue]

1 minute ago, HighPeakFox said:

Yes. I can see it being written off as a freak again though should the Big Bollocks 6 all fail. I suppose they might have a point too to a degree. I must say I don't do TalkSport or Sky, so I miss out on their agendas, but even listening to decent quality stuff like Totally Football podcast, the narrative always centres around the failure of the big clubs being about them, rather than the quality of Leicester (or anyone else for that matter), and thus it becomes no better really in its output. They don't cover EL matches, yet do an extra cast for ECL, and any Leicester win gets damned with faint praise at best. 

 

I'm not up in arms about this because I support Leicester, it bothers me because it is so embedding this idea that the whole English game is about Liverpool, the Manchesters, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea - whether they intend to or not, their input constantly reinforces the notion that a Leicester (or indeed another team) win or run of results is an entire sideshow, an outlier to be rubbished or diminished.

All good points but if we won it again i wouldn't give a toss about no crowds or the so called big 6 not turning up, sky play to the tune of the armchair liverchester support we are an itch they cant scratch.

[HighPeakFox]

2 minutes ago, Markyblue said:

All good points but if we won it again i wouldn't give a toss about no crowds or the so called big 6 not turning up, sky play to the tune of the armchair liverchester support we are an itch they cant scratch.

Nor I. And it would give them all a huge problem if we did.

[ALC Fox]

8 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Yes. I can see it being written off as a freak again though should the Big Bollocks 6 all fail. I suppose they might have a point too to a degree. I must say I don't do TalkSport or Sky, so I miss out on their agendas, but even listening to decent quality stuff like Totally Football podcast, the narrative always centres around the failure of the big clubs being about them, rather than the quality of Leicester (or anyone else for that matter), and thus it becomes no better really in its output. They don't cover EL matches, yet do an extra cast for ECL, and any Leicester win gets damned with faint praise at best. 

 

I'm not up in arms about this because I support Leicester, it bothers me because it is so embedding this idea that the whole English game is about Liverpool, the Manchesters, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea - whether they intend to or not, their input constantly reinforces the notion that a Leicester (or indeed another team) win or run of results is an entire sideshow, an outlier to be rubbished or diminished.

I listen to the Football Ramble and Marcus Speller has a real soft spot for us, and Brendan Rodgers. When we were flying last season, he (jokingly) intimated that we were 'on the verge' of winning the title again. So whenever we get a good result the joke continues, which doesn't get old for me.