Outfox the Fox Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 As well as Barnes, we might have to consider a Benkovic recall:- https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/astonishing-filip-benkovic-stats-defender-13283426 Though, given our defensive problems, we probably really need him now!
Wolfox Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 This is the reason why he should stay there…. He’s getting great experience and will now get more game time… Delighted to see that he’s having a positive impact
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 Aren't they season long loans, and does that mean there is NO recall option? I've no idea.
surrifox Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 21 minutes ago, Outfox the Fox said: As well as Barnes, we might have to consider a Benkovic recall:- https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/astonishing-filip-benkovic-stats-defender-13283426 Though, given our defensive problems, we probably really need him now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR0lOtdvqyg&feature=youtu.be
Blue ROI Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 Be nothing more than backup to Morgan. If Dragovic or Evans haven't replaced Wes then benkovic won't have much of a chance either.
urban.spaceman Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 Nah, let him develop under Brendan Rodgers for a year, and we should have a decent ready made defender. We're hardly in panic mode - we've got Evans, Soyuncu, Johnson, Hughes, Amartey who can fill that role.
FOXYTALK Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 Ah yes the 1 game wonder performance. let's get him back to solve our defensive crisis. leave him their jeez. It will help him develop as a player playing regular football he won't displace our current CB's after one game. Maybe re-assess in January dependent on his performances.
UniFox21 Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 Just like with Barnes, I hope we leave them both to stay on loan for the year and get regular game time and experience. Benkovic had a great game, but it's still one game, if he continues like that then yeah there's a chance to reconsider, but let the guy get regular game time first
CosbehFox Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 Can’t recall players on loan from abroad - well Scotland isn’t abroad. But basically loan deals which involve a FA to another international FA. No recall allowed - must be for the spell stated unless the loaning club want to exit the deal.
Ric Flair Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 29 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Nah, let him develop under Brendan Rodgers for a year, and we should have a decent ready made defender. We're hardly in panic mode - we've got Evans, Soyuncu, Johnson, Hughes, Amartey who can fill that role. Develop under Rodgers for a year then in the summer both of them come to Leicester.
Dan Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 This is in absolutely no way a dig at Benkovic but where has everyone's standards gone? One good game as a centre half against a side who are going to sit back and not actually put that pressure on Celtic's defence and he's now worth starting? Come on this is a bit silly. Lets see what he does over a period of time.
Lovejoy Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 It's far more sensible to leave both to play every week and develop as both men and footballers out on loan. I'd rather have two new starters ready for next season than bring them back to warm the bench in January.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 10 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: This is in absolutely no way a dig at Benkovic but where has everyone's standards gone? One good game as a centre half against a side who are going to sit back and not actually put that pressure on Celtic's defence and he's now worth starting? Come on this is a bit silly. Lets see what he does over a period of time. Same with Söyüncü, yes he was doing well in Germany but not incredible, lads there say they can't seeing coming straight into the starting line up yet. HBHM, Morgan and Evans will make up 95% of our CB pairing until at least January imo.
murphy Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 14 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Same with Söyüncü, yes he was doing well in Germany but not incredible, lads there say they can't seeing coming straight into the starting line up yet. HBHM, Morgan and Evans will make up 95% of our CB pairing until at least January imo. Really? I thought he was supposed to go straight into the team. Gibson going for £15m seems like an opportunity missed.
Deebhoy Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 Played very well last night. Agree it is still too early to judge him but he can pass a ball and seems like a decent header of one also.
StriderHiryu Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 From one of the Celtic Forums: Strong Dominant Attacks the ball Tall Handsome Can we keep him? Class act. You can see why Leicester spent £13 mil on him. Excellent tonight. Loving those crossfield balls. Send Jozo to Leicester next summer and keep him, no one will know. Decent. Good that he always wants to play the ball forward...sure we'll soon coach that out of him! Solid defensively aswell, although bigger tests to come. Hasn't put a foot wrong yet. The guy looks class. Excellent. Need to do our part and help him fall in love with the club so we get more time with him. If its a back 4 he must start. Sounds mental but for however long it is with him and boyata theres no worries at centre half Read the game so well last night, so his positioning for tackles was spot on, unbeatable in the air, can ping a pass and is just an all round beast of a defender. If I'm to be depressing then come next season trying to replace that even after one season if he continues and Boyata gives me the fear. Given Celtic had Van Dijk, this is pretty encouraging to hear...
Outfox the Fox Posted 21 September 2018 Author Posted 21 September 2018 1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Can’t recall players on loan from abroad - well Scotland isn’t abroad. But basically loan deals which involve a FA to another international FA. No recall allowed - must be for the spell stated unless the loaning club want to exit the deal. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-loanee-filip-benkovic-admits-13185187 It seems that a January recall clause was included in the Loan agreement - ie in "the spell stated".
Ted Maul Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 Some of the young talent we've got on the books really is astounding. We could put out 10 outfield players under 23 and be fairly competitive: Chilwell Benkovic Soyuncu Amartey Ndidi Choudhury Barnes Maddison Gray Iheanacho
CosbehFox Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 7 minutes ago, Outfox the Fox said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-loanee-filip-benkovic-admits-13185187 It seems that a January recall clause was included in the Loan agreement. Interesting - admittedly I was wrong then.
CosbehFox Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 14 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: Given Celtic had Van Dijk, this is pretty encouraging to hear... Last Friday, their fans were saying he was average against St Mirren. It appears their support has the same short-term judgement as ours.
StriderHiryu Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 7 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: Some of the young talent we've got on the books really is astounding. We could put out 10 outfield players under 23 and be fairly competitive: Chilwell Benkovic Soyuncu Amartey Ndidi Choudhury Barnes Maddison Gray Iheanacho It's very encouraging. Even if Puel ended up leaving (I hope he turns it around so people support him), we'd still have the players that someone else can develop, so will be set for some time. We are also picking up a reputation for being a team where young English players can move to in order to develop and get into the England team. If we have another decent season I could see players like Loftus-Cheek eyeing up a move here. Players can always "do a Pogba" where they move to get game time and then return for big money years later. I like the direction we are going in, but hopefully in 2-3 years time it also means we have a team that can challenge for trophies (even if it's just the Cups). It's great developing youth players, but it's also nice to win trophies
Ted Maul Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 3 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: It's very encouraging. Even if Puel ended up leaving (I hope he turns it around so people support him), we'd still have the players that someone else can develop, so will be set for some time. We are also picking up a reputation for being a team where young English players can move to in order to develop and get into the England team. If we have another decent season I could see players like Loftus-Cheek eyeing up a move here. Players can always "do a Pogba" where they move to get game time and then return for big money years later. I like the direction we are going in, but hopefully in 2-3 years time it also means we have a team that can challenge for trophies (even if it's just the Cups). It's great developing youth players, but it's also nice to win trophies This is the way I can see it going- Puel builds it from the ground up but can't get us to the next level in terms of tactics and game management, he gets sacked, someone else comes in and reaps the benefits (similar to Pearson & Ranieri)
StriderHiryu Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 15 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: This is the way I can see it going- Puel builds it from the ground up but can't get us to the next level in terms of tactics and game management, he gets sacked, someone else comes in and reaps the benefits (similar to Pearson & Ranieri) That's how I think it will go too. Puel doesn't endear himself to our fans and I can't see that ever changing. At the start of the season when he made a few jokes I though he was making more of an effort, but he's reverted to how he was. I can see him being here for a few seasons, developing a really good set of young players and then someone more charismatic will come in and we will either win a trophy or get to the Champions League or something. Thus there is probably an argument to say he's the right man for what we need right now.
fuchsntf Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 37 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: Some of the young talent we've got on the books really is astounding. We could put out 10 outfield players under 23 and be fairly competitive: Chilwell Benkovic Soyuncu Amartey Ndidi Choudhury Barnes Maddison Gray Iheanacho These are the type of posts,one enjoys to read,and gives credit to banter.....Nothing negative,just a good solid idea.....
Dan Posted 21 September 2018 Posted 21 September 2018 1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Same with Söyüncü, yes he was doing well in Germany but not incredible, lads there say they can't seeing coming straight into the starting line up yet. HBHM, Morgan and Evans will make up 95% of our CB pairing until at least January imo. In fairness with Soyuncu he's been regularly starting in a strong league and supposedly has attributes that are quite suited to where we're lacking. Benkovic is a bit of a mystery to me as promising as last night sounded. I think Soyuncu eventually comes in. It's not like our centre halves are performing well anyway. Morgan's not got it anymore and Maguire was laughable last weekend.
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