Why can't we score

[mozartfox]

19 minutes ago, joachim1965 said:

Ian stringer said as much in comentary yesterday.

Must be true then.

[shailen]

Watching us now is not nearly as frustrating as the great escape season where we would batter teams but still end up losing. If anything we have a lot more control in games now compared to back then but have the tendency to overplay or slow down attacks. The game yesterday changed when Vardy came on as Brighton were clearly scared of him and his aggression from the front meant balls for constantly falling to our defenders where we would build attacks despite having one less man.

[HighPeakFox]

7 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Sorry. Show me the free-flowing adventurous attacking performances this season that I must've missed then...

Sorry. I thought we were talking percentages and mathematical probabilities, you appear to have changed what you are saying because I challenged your confident assertion.

[murphy]

Outside of the top 6 only Bournemouth and Man Utd have scored more than us.  We have only failed to score in one game when we did everything but.  Huddersfield would love our problems.

 

I remember the start of 2017 when we had to say goodbye to Claudio.   7 games played, 0 goals scored, 1 point, bottom 3 and the worst record for the calendar year in all four divisions.  And that with a younger Vardy and Mahrez in the team.

 

We should rename this thread 'imaginary problems'.

[Max Wall]

Would a more appropriately worded title thread be 'Why can't we defend.'?

[Tom12345]

11 hours ago, lgfualol said:

We dont really have many players capable of making space for themselves and having a shot. Our wingers are all pretty uncreative and none can score (unless you count crossing as creative) and Maddison has had no influence on games now everyone just shuts him down. Nobody really makes unexpected attacking runs, everything is to feet and down the wings so teams just deal with us easily. 

 

High crosses for small forwards. Low crosses when nobody is there. Slow crosses when doing a counter. No tall attacking players anyway. 

 

Just poor decision making really and a lot of the squad are not good at shooting. Particularly long shots. Our wingers having no goal threat is actually a bit of a problem. Most teams in the league will have wingers that will test goalkeepers.

Agree.

[murphy]

3 minutes ago, Max Wall said:

Would a more appropriately worded title thread be 'Why can't we defend.'?

No, it should be called 'What the hell are we doing up so early on a Sunday morning?'

[eaststand68]

Puel!!

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, eaststand68 said:

Puel!!

You're the first person to make such a witty AND constructive suggestion.

[Tom12345]

6 minutes ago, Max Wall said:

Would a more appropriately worded title thread be 'Why can't we defend.'?

Speaking of defending, has anyone noticed that our defending seems more solid since Maguire has been injured? Evans is more dependable. Morgan though is really showing his age - and climbing over everybody to win headers.

[murphy]

3 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

Speaking of defending, has anyone noticed that our defending seems more solid since Maguire has been injured? Evans is more dependable. Morgan though is really showing his age - and climbing over everybody to win headers.

I think Evans has played well, but I think that the fact we have played Cardiff, Burnley and Brighton is the reason that our defending has looked more solid.  Patterson, Wood and Murray.  Three target men, rather than pacey whippersnappers.

[dyanmark]

Missing Mahrez or anyone who would inject pace into an attack either by running at/past players or hitting an early accurate ball.

Our current play is slowish and trying to play through Madison which is often not necessary and slows down the process

Also the small matter pf the 15 goals he would score

[l444ry]

9 hours ago, Guest said:

I've done more than enough research on him to understand what his impact on English football was mate. Do you have those stats you mentioned to hand or do they not exist?

Can't put my hand on Hughes 40 year old stats surprisingly enough. But are you suggesting that Hughes wrote the "Winning Formula", reached the position of Director of Coaching to the FA and taught a philosophy that affected the game so dramatically on facts that didn't exist? 

[zealot]

33 minutes ago, dyanmark said:

Missing Mahrez or anyone who would inject pace into an attack either by running at/past players or hitting an early accurate ball.

Our current play is slowish and trying to play through Madison which is often not necessary and slows down the process

Also the small matter pf the 15 goals he would score

I think we'll see the system, the team that Puel's built and Maddison improve even more next season. Gotta give squad and especially Maddison time to grow into a different way of playing in the Prem. 

 

We're doing fine at the moment and Puel clearly managing squad in prep for upcoming games.

 

CrispinLA: The stats just don't back up your 'why can't we score' statement I'm afraid. 

[Bayfox]

9 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said:

And how about penalties?..

Nah they don't count at all.

[FLAN]

2 hours ago, mozartfox said:

But when we do concede is often an absolute shocker.  WTF was going on with our CB’s. when Murray headed that in?  So much money spent in that area in the last window and yet absolutely nothing has improved, apart from Celtic’s defence.

 

We need to hire a specialist defensive coach and may be bin off some others on the coaching team that are not adding much value.   

Don’t worry most fans want Wes in the defensive coach role soon...

[Mike Oxlong]

[La-li-lu-le-lo]

Its evidently down to how we’re now playing. We do not look dangerous anymore. We’re slow, laborious and lack any kind of creativity. Maddison is too young an inexperienced to be relied upon. Next game I want to see Puel make a sensible decisions and just try Vardy and Shinji along side one another again. Vardy scores when Okazaki plays with him, always been the way. But unfortunately his stubbornness will prevent this. 

[Gazza M]

The key problem when 1 up front I see is getting men in the box when balls come in the box. There was nothing there first half yesterday. We went two up front when down to 10 men and more of a threat. Why not 2 when playing 11 on the field? Our wide men are shite so have a narrow midfield centrally and let Chilwell and Ricardo be our bit of width. Play Madison behind 2 strikers. We need to be more ruthless against teams around and below us. 

[Freeman's Wharfer]

1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said:

Sorry. I thought we were talking percentages and mathematical probabilities, you appear to have changed what you are saying because I challenged your confident assertion.

It's an analogy.

 

I've not changed what I'm saying at all. I think Puel is overly cautious and unwilling to chance his arm in search of a win most of the time. The stats show that we rarely score more than 1 and we've been unable to beat the likes of Brighton, Burnley, West Ham.

 

We frequently have a back 4 and 2 defensive midfielders and at times he's left our biggest goal threat (Vardy) on the bench.

 

That, I believe, is why we're struggling to score many.

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

It's an analogy.

 

I've not changed what I'm saying at all. I think Puel is overly cautious and unwilling to chance his arm in search of a win most of the time. The stats show that we rarely score more than 1 and we've been unable to beat the likes of Brighton, Burnley, West Ham.

 

We frequently have a back 4 and 2 defensive midfielders and at times he's left our biggest goal threat (Vardy) on the bench.

 

That, I believe, is why we're struggling to score many.

Ok, fair enough - for the sake of not having an argument, perhaps make a clear analogy next time, rather than invent percentages.

[Bert]

3 hours ago, reynard said:

Pretty much sums it up tidily. I would add that at times we simply don't move the ball quickly enough, usually because there isn't enough movement off the ball. The top sides keep the ball well but the transistion phase to attack happens far more quickly than it does with us.

Also I really don't think we have that many goal scorers on the pitch. We're far too dependant on Vardy to score and at the moment on Maddison to create. I think he's done well this season, yesterday excepted, but in terms of experience of playing at this level he is raw and it was always going to be a big ask to play to the very high standards of the start of the season all the time.

Both these players need more help from others within the squad.

But with the way that we play the only other people that are gonna help would be the wide men as we have two deep lying cms. I don’t think I’ve seen Mendy in the box at all this season. I also don’t think I’ve seen Maddison actually create all that much?

[coolhandfox]

We are clinical enough in front of goal, if Vardy isn't on it, we are in trouble.

 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

2 hours ago, joachim1965 said:

Ian stringer said as much in comentary yesterday.

Oh that's that settled then. Sack Puel now. 

[Guest]

15 hours ago, Crispin LA said:

Why can't we score goals in open play, I would love us to score 3 goals in a game like Tottenham or Liverpool. Is it confidence or ability that is the issue? 

We can score - I think we've scored in every game other than Burnley where we had about 5000 chances.

 

Our problem is that we don't spass forward and attack until we're one goal down.