Chilwell to Manchester City

[yorkie1999]

2 hours ago, Countryfox said:

 

I’ve got a sneaky feeling we aren’t going to lose anyone this summer ...  

 

 

I've got a sneaky feeling we're putting together a pretty decent side and from watching that Chilwell video, it seems he'd have a lot more assists if we could put the ball in the back of the net a bit more often.

[slymunn]

Rumours that Atletico are looking at signing Marcos Alonso doing the rounds online now.

[lcfc sheff]

I’ve definitely had a change of heart, can’t see any reason to sell a player as young as he is just yet, as long as he’s happy.

 

Next season he could explode in terms of attacking output and before you know it Real Madrid will be bidding 100m.

[knitro]

Hmm, we really need to make Europe this coming season or these rumours will start to have teeth. 

[sylofox]

On 31/05/2019 at 21:36, knitro said:

Hmm, we really need to make Europe this coming season or these rumours will start to have teeth. 

A little early for that comment yet. Clubs will always look for the cheapest option and we are not selling anyone we want cheap. 

 

But as the window comes to an end if not sorted they will be back. 

[StevieB]

What Pep said apparently ?

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/what-manchester-city-boss-pep-2937116.amp?__twitter_impression=true

[urban.spaceman]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7100825/Ben-Chilwell-grateful-Pep-Guardiola-praise-focused-England-Leicester.html

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/06/03/ben-chilwell-interview-england-young-ready-win-now/

[WigstonWanderer]

Ben Chilwell enjoyed his Pep talk! Full back grateful for Guardiola praise but is focused on England and Leicester

Ben Chilwell literally put in the hard yards. Last summer, while England recaptured the love of the nation with their run to the World Cup semi-finals, the Leicester full back was in a Milton Keynes field with his dad, a mate and a stopwatch.

There was no sports science, no technical drills and no distractions. In sweltering temperatures he ran, and he ran, and he ran.

The aim was to get the edge. To propel him to a breakthrough season. It worked.

Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola approaches Ben Chilwell at the Etihad Stadium

 

Fast forward 11 months. Leicester have just given title-chasing Manchester City a fright in the penultimate match of the season at the Etihad before losing 1-0. A relieved Pep Guardiola strides on to the pitch and seeks out Chilwell, who has been linked with a move to City.

'He told me that he thought I was a really talented player,' Chilwell reveals. 'And that he wanted me to keep playing well, getting up and down the pitch.'

It was high praise, symbolic of how far Chilwell has come and of how those shuttle runs have paid dividends.

Chiwell in action for England at Spain in Seville in October 2018 during the Nations League

The defender celebrates with his team-mates after England took a 1-0 lead during that game

'That was it,' he adds from a St George's Park sports hall as England prepare for their Nations League semi-final against Holland on Thursday. 'And then he walks off to the next person he wants to speak to. I didn't feel special but it was nice for a successful manager to say I'm a good player.'

Chilwell, 22, is grounded but also smart. He knows what the next question is and gets his answer in first. 'I'm at Leicester and with Brendan Rodgers coming in we're all loving him being there and that's where my head's at.'

Like Chilwell, Rodgers has been a revelation at Leicester. He has lifted both the club's Premier League position and expectation. Chilwell believes the Northern Irishman's style is similar to that of Gareth Southgate.

'At Leicester there's a lot of playing out from the back if you're in a tight situation - not just getting rid of it,' he explains. 'That's the same here and without the ball we're trying to press and play with high intensity. The transition from club to country is not too different which is good.'

Chilwell believes Brendan Rogers' management style is similar to that of Gareth Southgate

Chilwell's performances for Leicester have earned him England recognition this season

On Thursday, Chilwell will take his place at left back. He is hoping for a better evening than his last outing in Portugal, a 5-0 Champions League thrashing at the hands of Porto in December 2016 which led to some ugly social media abuse.

'It was my second or third game and we'd already qualified,' Chilwell recalls. 'Porto needed to win. It was a learning curve. It's not one I like to look back on but these things happen. It probably helped me a lot. I was a young boy coming in and I got a lot of stick. It taught me to be thick-skinned.

'When you're young you search for your name on Twitter to see what everyone is saying about you. I went into training the next week and kept working hard. That's all you can do.'

Chilwell received online abuse the last time he played in Portugal, going down 5-0 against Porto with Leicester in the Champions League group stage in December 2016

Does he still search for his own name? 'Definitely not!' The learning process continued with England in the Nations League.

'In both the Spain and Croatia games we were playing against top quality opposition,' Chilwell explains. 'Against Spain, they were finding positions on the pitch which I've not really faced before. Thiago Alcantara especially, he was finding little pockets, it was difficult to know whether to go and press him or not. It's a learning curve and I was playing with players around me who were helping me through it.

'That game was not a massive step up, but there are times when you feel, 'Do I go there or not?'.'

Chilwell has been lauded for his decision-making. It is a knack which can be traced back to his youth, when, as a batsman and first-change bowler who attended an ECB talents event, he had a choice to make.

He described England's win over Spain in October as 'a learning curve'

'I went to trials at Northants academy and got in,' he says. 'It was a crossroads between cricket and football. I might even have been better at cricket but I didn't enjoy it as much. It was an easy decision. I'd like to think I was a fast bowler but I was probably more medium, slow dobbers.

'I chose football when I started playing men's cricket at about 15. They're long days and I was playing with people I didn't have a lot in common with because they were grown men going to the pub after. I was going home.'

Now Chilwell is fully focused on football and the Nations League.

'Beating Holland is where we are at, then if we get to the final hopefully winning that,' he says. 'It's exciting. We're looking forward to winning a major trophy.

'This is a young squad. We don't want to learn over the next few years and start winning in a few years. We want to win this summer and then continue to win for the rest of our careers.'

[Countryfox]

[foxfanazer]

The slap head twat should stick to talking to his own players 

[Bluearmyfox28]

Clearly states my point I’ve made previously about Pep planting the seed on these young lads. Thankfully Chilly can see past that but imo this is tapping up. Pep knows what he’s doing, he knows within the next year or two he’s likely to make a move for him, so he’s simply planting that seed early so when it comes to him making a move he has a head start. I would imagine he did the same with Mahrez, I hate the big club mentality.

[Joefox]

There is literally no point in buying promising youngsters if they are going to be tapped up after a good season. It is tapping up and Pep shouldn’t be doing it knowing it’s going to turn his head. I mean how much have Man City spent on their academy? Develop your own damn players! It’s literally impossible to try and build a decent team.

[ian_marshall]

2 hours ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

Clearly states my point I’ve made previously about Pep planting the seed on these young lads. Thankfully Chilly can see past that but imo this is tapping up. Pep knows what he’s doing, he knows within the next year or two he’s likely to make a move for him, so he’s simply planting that seed early so when it comes to him making a move he has a head start. I would imagine he did the same with Mahrez, I hate the big club mentality.

Totally agree. The club with other's should lodge a complaint to the FA regarding his conduct. It's unsporting in my view and undermines the integrity of the game. The only thing I would say is that whilst I personally disagree with his actions I guess the counter argument is that although it may be unethical it's not against the rules.

 

Unfortunately I think Pep is arrogant enough to think he's above the governing bodies so a warning from them would probably land on deaf ears. Short of deploying a security team to escort the team off the pitch and making it clear to our own player's that anyone seen talking to Pep without LCFC representation will face disciplinary action I'm not sure how to curtail his behaviour. 

Edited 4 June 2019 by ian_marshall

[Strokes]

5 hours ago, Joefox said:

There is literally no point in buying promising youngsters if they are going to be tapped up after a good season. It is tapping up and Pep shouldn’t be doing it knowing it’s going to turn his head. I mean how much have Man City spent on their academy? Develop your own damn players! It’s literally impossible to try and build a decent team.

Put your dummy back in.

The consequence of having good players is always attracting interest from other clubs. I remember plenty of seasons where nobody wanted our players, least of all us.

[st albans fox]

5 hours ago, Joefox said:

There is literally no point in buying promising youngsters if they are going to be tapped up after a good season. It is tapping up and Pep shouldn’t be doing it knowing it’s going to turn his head. I mean how much have Man City spent on their academy? Develop your own damn players! It’s literally impossible to try and build a decent team.

 

5 hours ago, ian_marshall said:

Totally agree. The club with other's should lodge a complaint to the FA regarding his conduct. It's unsporting in my view and undermines the integrity of the game. The only thing I would say is that whilst I personally disagree with his actions I guess the counter argument is that although it may be unethical it's not against the rules.

 

Unfortunately I think Pep is arrogant enough to think he's above the governing bodies so a warning from them would probably land on deaf ears. Short of deploying a security team to escort the team off the pitch and making it clear to our own player's that anyone seen talking to Pep without LCFC representation will face disciplinary action I'm not sure how to curtail his behaviour. 

 

Seriously fellas - there’s nothing wrong with telling a young player you think they’re  great - remember when he laid into Nathan redmond ?  He’s a football man talking to young players ........ if he wants to tell them via their agent then he will do that aswell - I’m certain he can speak to them on the phone next time they are with their agent .... the period after the game gives him the opportunity to do it one to one but the idea that pep uses that few seconds to negotiate a transfer is pretty ridiculous...... the player would already know via their agent that pep is an admirer - it won’t  be news to them ! 

 

managers like pep and Klopp are seriously interested in good footballers as people  - they take the opportunity to tell them ..... how many of our players did pep shake hands with?  How many did Klopp do likewise at Anfield or even the KP earlier in the season ?? Some managers like to come onto the pitch and wander around - others don’t. Brendan does it, puel used to do it .... he generally chatted to the french speaking players on the other team or players he had managed before ...... 

 

unless you have looked at the end of all Man City games and noted which players pep has targeted for a hug and a chat then you can’t really say you know what he is up to ...... 

[ARM1968]

He’s a slap head - enough said. 

[Paninistickers]

4 hours ago, st albans fox said:

 

 

Seriously fellas - there’s nothing wrong with telling a young player you think they’re  great - remember when he laid into Nathan redmond ?  He’s a football man talking to young players ........ if he wants to tell them via their agent then he will do that aswell - I’m certain he can speak to them on the phone next time they are with their agent .... the period after the game gives him the opportunity to do it one to one but the idea that pep uses that few seconds to negotiate a transfer is pretty ridiculous...... the player would already know via their agent that pep is an admirer - it won’t  be news to them ! 

 

managers like pep and Klopp are seriously interested in good footballers as people  - they take the opportunity to tell them ..... how many of our players did pep shake hands with?  How many did Klopp do likewise at Anfield or even the KP earlier in the season ?? Some managers like to come onto the pitch and wander around - others don’t. Brendan does it, puel used to do it .... he generally chatted to the french speaking players on the other team or players he had managed before ...... 

 

unless you have looked at the end of all Man City games and noted which players pep has targeted for a hug and a chat then you can’t really say you know what he is up to ...... 

Chilwell said, I think 'Thank You' to Pep....so my rudimentary lip reading skills made out.

 

It's entirely normal, at any level of football, to have a friendly word with an opposition player and say something along the lines of 'well played son, you're a fine player. Stick at it - you'll go far' 

[WestLothianFox]

12 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Chilwell said, I think 'Thank You' to Pep....so my rudimentary lip reading skills made out.

 

It's entirely normal, at any level of football, to have a friendly word with an opposition player and say something along the lines of 'well played son, you're a fine player. Stick at it - you'll go far' 

Is that the 100 miles up to Manchester?

[Bluearmyfox28]

On 04/06/2019 at 10:57, ian_marshall said:

Totally agree. The club with other's should lodge a complaint to the FA regarding his conduct. It's unsporting in my view and undermines the integrity of the game. The only thing I would say is that whilst I personally disagree with his actions I guess the counter argument is that although it may be unethical it's not against the rules.

 

Unfortunately I think Pep is arrogant enough to think he's above the governing bodies so a warning from them would probably land on deaf ears. Short of deploying a security team to escort the team off the pitch and making it clear to our own player's that anyone seen talking to Pep without LCFC representation will face disciplinary action I'm not sure how to curtail his behaviour. 

It’s just sheer arrogance that the top clubs have these days. To walk on a pitch in front of sky cameras & talk up a player you know your most likely going to be make a move for it’s simply disrespectful.

 

However from a non Leicester perspective many will argue that it’s smart from pep as like you say there’s nothing to say he can’t do that.

[Bluearmyfox28]

19 hours ago, st albans fox said:

 

 

Seriously fellas - there’s nothing wrong with telling a young player you think they’re  great - remember when he laid into Nathan redmond ?  He’s a football man talking to young players ........ if he wants to tell them via their agent then he will do that aswell - I’m certain he can speak to them on the phone next time they are with their agent .... the period after the game gives him the opportunity to do it one to one but the idea that pep uses that few seconds to negotiate a transfer is pretty ridiculous...... the player would already know via their agent that pep is an admirer - it won’t  be news to them ! 

 

managers like pep and Klopp are seriously interested in good footballers as people  - they take the opportunity to tell them ..... how many of our players did pep shake hands with?  How many did Klopp do likewise at Anfield or even the KP earlier in the season ?? Some managers like to come onto the pitch and wander around - others don’t. Brendan does it, puel used to do it .... he generally chatted to the french speaking players on the other team or players he had managed before ...... 

 

unless you have looked at the end of all Man City games and noted which players pep has targeted for a hug and a chat then you can’t really say you know what he is up to ...... 

I get your point I honestly do but saying it’s ridiculous I don’t agree. Let’s put it this way say you’ve heard interest from a company that’s bigger than the one your currently working for & can offer you a lot more money. 

 

Your going to take more notice & be more interested in that interest if the manager of that company goes out of his way to specifically tell you how good you are at your job face to face  right? That’s what I believe pep is doing here. I don’t know if that examples makes sense but it does In my head  

 

you may be right In what your saying but I personally think Pep knows exactly what he’s doing here.

[Joefox]

On 04/06/2019 at 16:26, Strokes said:

Put your dummy back in.

The consequence of having good players is always attracting interest from other clubs. I remember plenty of seasons where nobody wanted our players, least of all us.

There’s no point in investing in good young players if Pep and

other managers of big teams keep coming along and saying I’ll have him here’s a load of money. Then what will we do? Invest that money in another promising youngster and sell them on again. We are effectively scouting for them. 

 

He knows exactly what he’s doing. He did a similar thing to Mahrez if I recall.

 

I know how  the world of football works but it doesn’t make it any less annoying. Man City don’t even need him. They will just buy him because they can.

 

 

Edited 11 June 2019 by Joefox

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, Joefox said:

There’s no point in investing in good young players if Pep and

other managers of big teams keep coming along and saying I’ll have him here’s a load of money. Then what will we do? Invest that money in another promising youngster and sell them on again. We are effectively scouting for them. 

 

He knows exactly what he’s doing. He did a similar thing to Mahrez if I recall.

 

I know how  the world of football works but it doesn’t make it any less annoying. Man City don’t even need him. They will just buy him because they can.

 

 

So you suggest we buy only old shit players nobody wants to ward them off?

[urban.spaceman]

16 minutes ago, Babylon said:

So you suggest we buy only old shit players nobody wants to ward them off?

The older the better. Bids for Robben, Ribbery and Sheringham are incoming. 

[WigstonWanderer]

1 hour ago, Joefox said:

There’s no point in investing in good young players if Pep and

other managers of big teams keep coming along and saying I’ll have him here’s a load of money. Then what will we do? Invest that money in another promising youngster and sell them on again. We are effectively scouting for them. 

 

He knows exactly what he’s doing. He did a similar thing to Mahrez if I recall.

 

I know how  the world of football works but it doesn’t make it any less annoying. Man City don’t even need him. They will just buy him because they can.

 

 

I’d say there’s every point. As annoying as it is that big clubs can do this it is a good business model, but relies on an excellent scouting and development setup.

[Joefox]

8 hours ago, Babylon said:

So you suggest we buy only old shit players nobody wants to ward them off?

Fine. We’ll keep finding these good players, develop them for a bit then sell them on. We will just stay in 8th position and not aim any higher.

 

like I said I understand the reality I’m just saying it’s incredibly frustrating to see us develop a quality side with a good manager only to see us sell them. I expect bids to come in for Chillwell, Maddison etc and I expect them to leave when it happens.

Edited 12 June 2019 by Joefox