Finnegan Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 6 minutes ago, Izzy said: Who the fook are 'Gillette' of all people to tell me how to behave? I find it patronising to say the least. Stick to selling razors you plumbs. "We believe: the best men can be". I don't give a shit what they believe. Why bring your 'beliefs' into it? Worlds gone mad. Don't **** tonnes of adverts tell you how to behave? Usually that behaviour involves their stuff. Car adverts have been telling you to buy a surf board or walking boots and get active for years, nobody's crying about that. Supermarket adverts have been nagging at us to buy more vegetables and cook healthy dinners and, unless they've got Jamie Oliver's smug face in, they don't generate complaints. And I'm pretty sure nobody's ever boycotted Birdseye for encouraging people to switch the telly off and sit down for a traditional family meal. But stick a black athlete in your advert or suggest people maybe not harass women? AWH HELL NARH, says twitter. Social media is ****ing weird man. This is just the other side of the same coin that wants Scarlett Johansson burned at the stake for playing anything other than a white middle class American woman or stoning some WASP teenage high school kid for wearing a kimono to her prom on grounds of cultural appropriation.
StanSP Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 18 minutes ago, Izzy said: Who the fook are 'Gillette' of all people to tell me how to behave? I find it patronising to say the least. Stick to selling razors you plumbs. "We believe: the best men can be". I don't give a shit what they believe. Why bring your 'beliefs' into it? Worlds gone mad. you don't have to listen to them or obey them!? It's just an additional message they want to use to reach out to their key demographic i.e. men. Yes, as a company selling razors or shaving products etc it may not be their place, but they're using their popularity to try and put a message out on what they think is acceptable. And given the way that some men, especially celebrities, have been acting and being portrayed in the media, why not send a message out? This is hardly indicative of the 'world going mad', either. Can think of numerous other examples of that but saying to men not to sexually harrass someone and just be generally be a good person and not act like a douche around women and to get men to set better examples to their kids (sons) is hardly the world going mad?
Corky Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 First advert I've seen for a while without Jeff Stelling lecturing us on how to bet. Was half-expecting a "WHEN THE FUN STOPS, STOP" message to appear at the end.
Izzy Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 Phew, thank god for Gillette. I was just about to smack the kids goodnight and give the wife a good beating but then I remembered their advert and decided against it
Nalis Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 4 minutes ago, Corky said: First advert I've seen for a while without Jeff Stelling lecturing us on how to bet. Was half-expecting a "WHEN THE FUN STOPS, STOP" message to appear at the end. Yeah the fake sentiment from skybet would a bit more believable if they didnt have gambling addict Paul Merson in their ads. Bit like having Phil Mitchell promoting Guinness.
Guest MattP Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 1 minute ago, Izzy said: Phew, thank god for Gillette. I was just about to smack the kids goodnight and give the wife a good beating but then I remembered their advert and decided against it And when I see the kids play fighting at a BBQ I'm going to jump in and make sure it stops. There will be no toxic masculinity around when I'm eating raw meat chucked onto the fire I started.
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 I buy Tesco own brand razors, so Gillette can shove their overpriced rip-off tat.
Guest the fox Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 @Finnegan some men are truly emotionally abused and filled with insecurities and that's why some are triggered. For me, Catcalling and Bullying are a manifestation of all the pressure males are facing to prove they the big dog. (For the most part ofcourse). Those are symptoms to true toxic masculinity and the bad mental health of males, not the cause of it. A man got pancreatic Cancer and his skin turned yellow, you can't tell him that his yellow skin caused him cancer, can you? Why bully? Because most Kids are pushed to prove their manhood and their little brain can't come up with a better plan then being physical. Catcalling is pretty much the same. It serves no really purpose but to get a laugh out of the lads or show how alpha one is. From me, some men are truly mentally traumatized and the saddest part is, they don't even know it. Now Gillette touched on their insecurities and only added more responsibility. We will always have men acting like that unless we get to the core of the problem. Instead of telling kids to stop bullying, just ask them why? Get to the real problem.
Mike Oxlong Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 The next series of Gillette ads will be telling me to “uncouple” from my dick whilst selling me a 10 blade razor with an aloe vera strip that’ll do just that job
Captain... Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 43 minutes ago, Izzy said: Phew, thank god for Gillette. I was just about to smack the kids goodnight and give the wife a good beating but then I remembered their advert and decided against it It is not about individual change it’s cultural change. Everyone knows that you shouldn’t harass women, beat people up and generally be a cvnt, yet there are still men out there that do it and think it is their right to do it and do it unashamedly. The bigger point of the advert advert to me is that we should call out this kind of behaviour. How many times has a mate, or a mate of a mate done something “not cool” and you’ve just gone along with it, or you’ve seen lads at the football or in the pub being a bit lairy and ignored as it is lads being lads. The fact is it is a lot more complex issue than a 90 second ad a few posts on here. If you take away anything from it it should be that we are moving away from “lads lads lads” having a scuffle picking up birds as being the societal norm and actually “lad culture” is a lot more diverse than Nuts magazine. I’m not saying finger a minger or pull a pig competitions are a thing of the past, but it will be marginalised and the assumption that every lad is up for that sort of behaviour will disappear so that those who do will not be the perceived norm, because the reality is most men are decent blokes but they get dragged down by “toxic masculinity” to feel they need to fit in to this sort of behaviour. As I said it’s a complex issue and not one that was handled well by Gillette and probably not well expanded upon by me but if gets debate and discourse going then it is worthwhile.
Strokes Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 For fùcks sake, now I’m going to look a right scruffy cúnt when I go out raping.
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 Good advert. I know not to act like a **** but even at 40, sometimes I still do. Continuously feel I have to ‘lad’ up all the time when i’m with my mates and i’ve never really had a talk to either of my kids about bullying. It’s a pretty positive advert actually. Judging by some of the reactions on here and social media in general, quite a few have either deliberately missed the point or are stuck with their own masculinity issues. Still wouldn’t buy a razor though.
ozleicester Posted 15 January 2019 Posted 15 January 2019 its an advert, created by an advertising agency to sell more products. The agency (and business in general) believe if people are talking about something, then they will sell more. The company are happy The agency are happy simpletons are offended How many brain hours are spent talking about junk?
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 2 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said: The thing that ****s me off about it, is when did adverts stop being adverts? Why've they become these political messages rather than just selling the product they're peddling, it's daft. Example: there's an advert for Ariel (or something) that basically just says "Don't let your kids eat detergent". Doesn't say anything about the product, doesn't even joke that the kids eating detergent will have immaculate intestines from the power of Ariel's Oxi-Activ™ formula. Why the fvck put that advert out? The Gilette one - yeah, nice message, but would probably have been more effective if it was an advert for a charity sponsored by Gilette and not a straight up Gilette advert. Also far too long. Also far too corny. The only one of these political adverts that I think works was the Iceland palm oil one, and that was never even broadcast
Carl the Llama Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 It's only 'offensive' in the way that all virtue signalling is 'offensive'. It's patronising and smug but like whenever a celebrity starts preaching at the Oscars you just roll your eyes and carry on with whatever you were doing. If anybody had an epiphany because of it then furry muff, more power to em.
Jattdogg Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 3 hours ago, Izzy said: Phew, thank god for Gillette. I was just about to smack the kids goodnight and give the wife a good beating but then I remembered their advert and decided against it Lol post of the night. Bravo. I suppose there is nothing wrong with stating the obvious at times but not all of us are cvnts that do these terrible things to women (outside of intercourse that's mutually agreed too of course). Dont need gillete to point out the obvious to me but i highly doubt a dooshbag of a guy is sitting there watching the commerical and having a light bulb moment about how he should treat women etc.
siraaj_lcfc Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 Preferred the Head an Shoulders advert with Joe Hart. Lead to some hilarious chants as well.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 I didn't even know Oral B made a toothpaste!!
Bellend Sebastian Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 I know what'll sort this: a George Monbiot article in The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/16/men-masculinity-gillette-advertisement
Carl the Llama Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 17 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said: I know what'll sort this: a George Monbiot article in The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/16/men-masculinity-gillette-advertisement I bet I could take him in a fight.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 11 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said: I bet I could take him in a fight. He's recovering from prostate cancer, my money would be on you as well
Guest Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 Who watches adverts these days? Will it really change anyone/anything? White man bad.
Langston Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 12 hours ago, Nalis said: Yeah the fake sentiment from skybet would a bit more believable if they didnt have gambling addict Paul Merson in their ads. Bit like having Phil Mitchell promoting Guinness. Does Merse actually appear in the Skybet ads? Genuine question. I don't think I've ever seen him in one. Thompson, Nicholas and Le Tissier yeah, but not Merson.
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