Guest Col city fan Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 Harry Maguire in his first season could make errors, of course, but generally was immense. So much so that he cemented a regular international spot and was great in the World Cup. The player I watched today can’t be the same man? Positionally poor, no real communication with Wes, and very few of those carrying runs into the midfield Whats occurred? I imagine his stock has declined and if I were Southgate I’d not be playing him at the moment. Wheres ‘our Arry’ gone?
The Doctor Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 For me today it was an injury after what, 6 minutes, down with the knee again and limping. Unsurprisingly not long after he struggles to get off the ground as they plant one in. I know it's difficult to make a sub that early but I do think he should have come off rather than letting him hobble for a bit before doing so.
Ric Flair Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 Just having an iffy season, it happens. I wouldn't be against him going as we have Soyuncu and Benkovic who will be very good. We have missed any chance of getting near £50m for him though, anything over £35m I'd snap their hands off.
Stevosevic Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 Just a bit off that's all. I'm not sure why people expect him to move on tbh. I'm not sure any of the top 6 would have genuine interest. There were links to Man United in the summer but I'm sure they have better targets and that's gone a bit cold. Apart from that, I doubt the rest are interested. I think he's here for years to come
Countryfox Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Just having an iffy season, it happens. I wouldn't be against him going as we have Soyuncu and Benkovic who will be very good. We have missed any chance of getting near £50m for him though, anything over £35m I'd snap their hands off. Come the day I reckon we will get more than £50m ... and you’re right we do have good cover. More important issues on the pitch atm.
coolhandfox Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 Busy summer, little or no break, limited pre-season and in and out of the side due to injury. Also had his head turn by Man U
Countryfox Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 1 minute ago, Stevosevic said: Just a bit off that's all. I'm not sure why people expect him to move on tbh. I'm not sure any of the top 6 would have genuine interest. There were links to Man United in the summer but I'm sure they have better targets and that's gone a bit cold. Apart from that, I doubt the rest are interested. I think he's here for years to come Would love to think so but can’t see it.
shailen Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 Needs to be dropped for 1/2 games to stop the complacency. He probably felt untouchable here after the world cup
EnglishOxide Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 We've got the fifth best defence in the league. He can't be doing that bad.
Countryfox Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 1 minute ago, EnglishOxide said: We've got the fifth best defence in the league. He can't be doing that bad. You wouldn’t think it after today ....
splinterdream Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 motivation, not knowing who he'll end up playing with or playing with
nwl fox Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 I don't think he's properly recovered from injury
Woodsey1727 Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 I don't mind if he's not as good as he was in the summer, less chance of the big 6 to come sniffing
cal21212121 Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 The goal from the corner can't be pinned on Maguire. That goal was a prime example of how not to defend with zonal marking. We had our big guys in the correct positions, lined up on the 6 yard line, but you need to stop players getting a free run from the penalty spot. Maguire had a guy infront and behind him both having a free run. In contrast Wolves set up with their big guys on the 6 yard line, but had a second line 12 yards out to disrupt/block/track the runs of our players which meant the likes of Maguire and Morgan couldn't get the run on the 6 yard box.
Claridge Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 Good player for Leicester, but I wouldn’t pay 60 + million for him
lgfualol Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 He was suspect defensively last season but made up for it with his ability on the ball being the best at the club bar Mahrez. Hasnt quite been the same since the Summer and is awful with Morgan in some matches.
mozartfox Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 14 minutes ago, shailen said: Needs to be dropped for 1/2 games to stop the complacency. He probably felt untouchable here after the world cup Drop Harry and with Wes in decline, we are then a bit short at the back. Amazing how things change so quickly.
Jaspa Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 He's never actually been that good at defending - for England at the WC he was played as the LCB of a three, meaning he would always have two covering if he were to lose the ball in one of his bustling foraging adventures. He is excellent in carrying the ball forwards and protecting it, knowing what to do with his weight. His technique and close control is also surprisingly efficient. Defending though, not always. Running back towards his own goal no. Consistency, no. In the right system covering his deficiencies (3 at the back) he would excel again (injuries permitting), if we aren't going to play to his strengths he's worth more as a fee and in today's market, even for an out of form Mags you'd want £50m+ So it's hard really. He's a valuable asset, we have to keep his value up, yet we don't play to his strengths and he looks very replaceable. Unless he still has room to grow going into the latter stages of his career and turns into a no-nonsense animal with no problems in a CB pairing, possible Captain material - never know.
Babylon Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 I'm not sure that he's ever been that solid, he wasn't called up on the back of us being solid was he. It's what he can do on the ball that stands him apart. Problem is we've have to reign him in a bit with that as it disrupted the back line a lot.
shailen Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 5 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Drop Harry and with Wes in decline, we are then a bit short at the back. Amazing how things change so quickly. Not saying to sell him or anything but his performances have not been at his usual level. Keep him on his toes a little bit. Evans should get a chance imo.
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 Would probably look better playing in a back 3, like he does for England, allowing him to come out with the ball and pick a pass (rather than Mendy or Ndidi). Why we haven't at least tried it is beyond me. Would suit Chilwell and Ricardo more if we played them as wingbacks. Vardy would be less isolated also.
mozartfox Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 1 minute ago, shailen said: Not saying to sell him or anything but his performances have not been at his usual level. Keep him on his toes a little bit. Evans should get a chance imo. I am not disagreeing with you
Sampson Posted 19 January 2019 Posted 19 January 2019 20 minutes ago, EnglishOxide said: We've got the fifth best defence in the league. He can't be doing that bad. But how much of that was when he was injured? Our defence all of a sudden tightened up when he was injured. Be interested to see our defensive record with him vs without him this season. Not saying he's bad or should be dropped all of a sudden, just not sure how much your argumentholds water.
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