LinekersApples Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 What are we entitled to (based on general infrastructure of our club compared to the rest in England): Top 10 every season with a crack at 5th/6th/7th every now and again, a decent FA Cup run every so often and lose to Man City reserves in League cup every year.
Guest Cujek Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 No to be beaten 4 - 1 at home by relegation candidates would be a good start
Finnegan Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 3 minutes ago, Walkers said: Its scary the amount of neutrals that believe we can't sack a manager anymore because "we expect to win the league every season" Anyone who thinks that is proving how out of touch they are with the club. The vast majority of the footballing world wanted us to accept our title win was a "fairytale" and a "miracle" and get back in our box, be quiet and stop daring to dream bigger. It was never fully respected that we acrually, completely built something and deserved to be champions.
Stadt Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 Just to look forward to games, sometimes be excited, sometimes frustrated but mostly to feel like we’re moving forward.
Nickfosse Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 3 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I didn't really see Wolves as a change in style, we've always gone at teams away from home, especially those that are considered good footballing teams. The problem at Wolves was less about tactical approach and more just a mix of awful individual errors and then some terrible tactical decisions. Why were we pressing with our full backs bombing on for a winner after we'd equalised? The fourth goal was entirely avoidable, tactically, yet we were pushing on to try and save his job with an impressive win instead of consolidating a point. Again, fair enough. As I say it’s not aimed at you. You’re right, we have had a go at teams away from home. It’s at those who have consistently said that they would rather lose 4 3 than win 1 0 with dull football. I’m afraid that proved to be utter bolllocks.
Foxxed Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 There's definitely unrealistic expectations: we know how unique our title win was but still expect to be challenging for European football even though we know all the reasons we won the title are now gone or aging. If anyone demands these unrealistic achievements now, I don't know, but anyone who does needs to get a grip and grow up. I don't think wanting rid of Puel after this bad run means we're entitled though. It's a results game.
Finnegan Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 1 minute ago, Nickfosse said: Again, fair enough. As I say it’s not aimed at you. You’re right, we have had a go at teams away from home. It’s at those who have consistently said that they would rather lose 4 3 than win 1 0 with dull football. I’m afraid that proved to be utter bolllocks. I would rather lose 4-3 occasionally than win the majority of games with a dull 1-0. Of course if it was losing EVERY game 3-4 then that would be ridiculous. It's a hyperbolic argument though isn't it? What people mean when they say that is that they wouldn't mind a couple of heavy defeats if it was a genuine consequence of us playing attacking, entertaining football on a consistent basis. You're talking about people being upset at playing shit anti football most days and still losing 4-3. That's a bit different.
David Hankey Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 33 minutes ago, Nickfosse said: You said when you bought your season ticket you didn’t expect to witness inept performances. How am I being obtuse? iIf you support a football club over time you’ll always get inept performances. It’s the nature of the game. You mentioned the word guarantee. You have missed my points entirely over what I expect which is nothing like a guarantee. Perhaps you were happy with Puel's style of football, that being the case you are certainly in the minority.
Royston. Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 Sane heads wont expect top 6 but outside that top 6 is alot of dross so its reasonable to expect our squad to be top 10. I'd be fairly satisfied with a lower midtable finish but thats just my opinion.
Dorkingfox Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 As a supporter you want your team to do the best possible, if they can compete with the top 4-6 teams then great, you need to have a dream. The top 6 have not always been the top six and it is not their divine right to be there, things change in football and a clubs fortune can change. The big teams of the 30/40/50's (Preston, Sunderland, Villa, Sheff Wed) are now mainly championship teams and they were huge in their day, every dog has his day. Even Man City have been in Div 3
Guest Markyblue Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 19 minutes ago, Walkers said: Its scary the amount of neutrals that believe we can't sack a manager anymore because "we expect to win the league every season" Anyone who thinks that is proving how out of touch they are with the club. F..k the neutrals we do whats best for our club and if other fans dont like it,tough.
Nickfosse Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 1 minute ago, David Hankey said: You mentioned the word guarantee. You have missed my points entirely over what I expect which is nothing like a guarantee. Perhaps you were happy with Puel's style of football, that being the case you are certainly in the minority. I thought we played very well against Spurs away and first half last night. If that puts me in a minority, so be it. A majority voted for Brexit and look at the shit that’s left us in. I completely understand and respect the decision that Top has made. And I shall be as supportive of the club and next manager as I have those previous. I will continue even when we have the odd inept performance because that’s football whichever team you follow.
sylofox Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 Entitled to nothing but expect opposition fans to bitch about us at times like this. Glass house's and stones come to mind. The time has passed when I cared what other twats think.
David Hankey Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 13 minutes ago, Nickfosse said: I thought we played very well against Spurs away and first half last night. If that puts me in a minority, so be it. A majority voted for Brexit and look at the shit that’s left us in. I completely understand and respect the decision that Top has made. And I shall be as supportive of the club and next manager as I have those previous. I will continue even when we have the odd inept performance because that’s football whichever team you follow. Playing well and winning matches are two entirely different things. Just look at Pue's record this sesaon. Just 4 home wins and the last win away at Everton at the beginning of the year. Dumped out of the FA Cup my minnows. It's easy to get sucked into mediocrity. Are you sure going to to the theatre would be any better?
jayfox26 Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 , ,I dont give 2 shits about what fans of other teams think. Nobody knows our club better than our own fans just like i would never pretend to know more about another club that i don't support than people who do support them. I think alot of people would have been happy for us to keep Puel and keep getting embarassing results like yesterday. I do feel for Puel in some ways as our performances recently haven't got the results we've deserved. We played well yesterday and against Spurs and United and got nothing. Its sad that teams like Palace and Burnley can play absolute trash and still get 3 points and we actually play good football and get nothing. A change was needed but Puel has done some good things for us during his time here and has had to deal with the tragic loss of the owner whilst balancing the wage bill and clearing out the absolute shite we've accumulated in our squad since winning the league. Not to mention the signings of Ricardo and Maddison and the development of some of our younger players. Shame things didn't work out for him but im sure if we make the right appointment next, they will benefit from the work Puel has started.
MC Prussian Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 We're not entitled to anything, but we can expect better. In particular at home.
Dorkingfox Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 No entitlements in football, but we do want something better than the stuff we had in the 80’s, 81/82 we finished 8th in div2, Luton won the league, poor crowds. 82/83 we were promoted to Div 1 when Lineker and Smith played but crowds were small 9k to 14k and some poor games. In 85/86 we finished 19th with average gates of 11792. Fans vote with their feet, so the style of football needs to be good to bring in the punters. 86/87 relegated and Smith sold to Arsenal, att. 11697. It got worse by 88-89 Div 2 15th and Chelsea won the league, but att. Up to 10701 av. 90/91 in div 2 finished 22nd, Shipman went and att av. was 11546. Things picked up under Brian Little finishing 4th 91-92 att increased to 15184, so getting better
foxy boxing Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 No football fan is entitled to win anything, we support the team because we feel an attachment to them. We support the team hoping for glory not expecting it. We are entitled to see a good work ethic from the players and manager and everyone at the club should be trying there best to give the best performances on the pitch.
Nickfosse Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 1 hour ago, David Hankey said: Playing well and winning matches are two entirely different things. Just look at Pue's record this sesaon. Just 4 home wins and the last win away at Everton at the beginning of the year. Dumped out of the FA Cup my minnows. It's easy to get sucked into mediocrity. Are you sure going to to the theatre would be any better? Having watched Leicester for almost 50 years David, I’ve spent money on inordinately worse football than that served up by Puel. If I’d gave swapped football for the theatre, I’d have done so years ago, probably under David Pleat
Jattdogg Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 I love my club and expect us to challenge for the title every season no matter the odds. Nobody is entitled to anything. Titles are earned.
shailen Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 The wolves game - call it naive but I enjoyed us playing quick attacking football and taking risks - getting players in the box. We got done on the counter attack but I just want to see that approach in our home games - as we need to play with more urgency and not keeping possession for possession sakes. I want to see us taking more shots when we are in good positions and getting more crosses in and attacking them with real intent. Ironically I don't think our points tally is that bad and we shouldn't be facing relegation - but if we are to progress there needs to be more urgency and intent to our play.
Monsell1976 Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 A manager that doesn’t bore the life out of us, players that just get on with it and at least try and embrace change. Win some, lose some, draw some but walk away feeling like we did the best we could
KingsX Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 2 hours ago, MonkeyTennis? said: To win more than 50% of games is pretty much what I'm after. The number of clubs in the PL who have done that over the last ten seasons: 6 (to date), 5, 5, 2, 4, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4 I'd say there's some entitlement there.
The Doctor Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 3 hours ago, Nalis said: BBC have your say section is possibly the most deluded, ignorant section of opinions on the internet. Fans of other teams look at the league table and think 'they're mid table, entitled dickheads'. But they dont understand the direction we were going. It started to remind me of Newcastle in our great escape season where they sunk like a stone and almost got relegated. The next season, lo and behold they went down. The life of a mid table team involves good runs, bad runs and inconsistency which I accept however we made consistently easy for weaker teams in the past couple of months to get a result against us. In fairness, they started to sink when they got Pardews replacement wrong and appointed John Carver (they were 9th when he left at the end of December). If we're looking at them as a cautionary tale, it's about how important it is to get his replacement right.
RonnieTodger Posted 24 February 2019 Posted 24 February 2019 We do have an entitled fan base. The reaction to losing 1-0 against United was a disgrace. However, we deserve better than losing at ****ing Newport, at home to Cardiff, Southampton and Palace. Theres not not a single fixture that i’d fancy us to win at the moment. I was actually staggered we managed to equalise yesterday. The general comments from the wider UK football fan base are pathetic. We’re just going to have “that’s what Leicester are!!!” until we finally get relegated. I’ve stopped paying attention to what fans of other clubs think because it’s quite evident that they’d rather take Danny Mills’ and Martin Keown’s opinion as gospel.
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