Dahnsouff Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 2 minutes ago, Koke said: I enjoy making fun of Tottenham as much as the next person, but I would love to be like them. Regular CL football, world class striker and incredibly highly rated midfielders. Who exactly wouldn't want this? You are of course 100% correct, Tottenham are doing an outstanding job of being (currently at least) consistently a top 4 team, and without spending a fortune. (Or nowt!) Add to that there strict line on wages, and its doubly impressive I would argue.
Guest SO1 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Always had a thing for Big Sam. First PL game I ever watched on ESPN3 back when learned to use the computer(luddite). Him and Pulis going at it with the singing and Rory Delap all in the same place. Now thats entertainment. I was hooked.
Dandy king Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Coming third in a two horse race jokes aside, I personally think a model similar to Tottenhams is the best and most sustainable route. Bringing through young talent, and having a reputation for giving them a chance is a great way to attract some of the best young players , and being honest we're always going to struggle to attract some of the best experienced pros. Plus with prices being the way they are you just can't risk them not fitting in. That said I would love some of the young lads to start banging a few more goals in
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 16 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Big Sam really wants the gig here doesn’t he ! exactly my thoughts, he's hoping this will put pressure and expectation on Brendan and if he doesn't make top 6 (unlikely) Big Sam will be waiting to come in and hoof his way to top 6. If that sounds cynical, we all know Big Sam doesn't do or say anything that is not benefitting Big Sam.
mozartfox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 1 hour ago, stripeyfox said: Who wants to be the new Tottenham? Are Singha Beer planning to build a ‘bottling’ plant in Leicester
shailen Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 I think we have the infrastructure, the owners, the fans and our recent history to become as good as Tottenham. Geographically as well we are the biggest club in the Midlands atm. If we carry on growing as we have been and attracting the players and managers that we have, we will get there. It used to be the big four and then man city and spurs joined the party. Why can't we be the next team?
SecretPro Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 47 minutes ago, Koke said: I enjoy making fun of Tottenham as much as the next person, but I would love to be like them. Regular CL football, world class striker and incredibly highly rated midfielders. Who exactly wouldn't want this? Poch will go in the summer, players will follow suit. Tottenham will collapse. I don't want to be them.
ThaiFox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 There is one big difference. Spuds have Daniel Levy. The press call him a 'shrewd businessman'. Maybe he is in the world of business, but In my view he's not when it comes to the business of chairman of Spuds. In business you speculate to accumulate. But Levy is doing the reverse. He is accumulating huge debt but not speculating on the only thing that matters, which is winning things. The best players want to win things, and the best players want to go to clubs which are winning things. They also want to be paid the going rate. Playing in a great stadium is not something you are remembered by! By not improving and investing in the squad, in my view Levy has already cost Spuds several trophies. I can see Ponch, Kane, Ericson and Alli all leaving this summer, unless by some miracle they win the champions league. Now look at what Vichai and Top have done here. Not only are the club investing in improving facilities, we are doing that as well as paying our players well, and trying hard to improve the squad year on year. Top has now invested a lot of money in a new manager, to state our intent. We may lose players in the summer too, but our players can see a very clear vision for the club and this is because the club are clearly on a different wavelength, business wise, to Levy at Spuds. Spuds may have a great home ground next season, but will they have a manager and will their best players stay? Plus, I never want any association with, or to be compared to Spuds. Long may they win nothing.
Tom12345 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Leicester has a decent squad. I hope Rogers make the most of it and bring back some players who have been frozen out. Remember we still have quite a few players on loan too.
Happy Fox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Well, we won't win the league again, and the club clearly has no interest in the cups. Where are the trophies coming from in the next 10 years then? I think that is wrong to say that it was Puel that had no interest in cups, under Brendan it's all about the cups for me.
davieG Posted 28 February 2019 Author Posted 28 February 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Fox said: I think that is wrong to say that it was Puel that had no interest in cups, under Brendan it's all about the cups for me. I'm sure even Puel wanted to do well in the cups I just think he misjudged both the opposition and the ability/form/ drive of his own players. I do not believe he thought anything but a win.
Happy Fox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Just now, davieG said: I'm sure even Puel wanted to do well in the cups I just think he misjudged both the opposition and the ability/form/ drive of his own players. I do not believe he thought anything but a win. True, I think he did misjudge it, but he could have played the strongest team possible and not leave it to chance, anyway this is conjecture, I believe Rodgers imo, would treat the cup competitions with more respect.
Tuna Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Saw this thread and thought Fat Sam was getting the Spurs job.
davieG Posted 28 February 2019 Author Posted 28 February 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Fox said: True, I think he did misjudge it, but he could have played the strongest team possible and not leave it to chance, anyway this is conjecture, I believe Rodgers imo, would treat the cup competitions with more respect. Well we'll see not many managers at the top 2 leagues play their normal 1st teams. For me the big problem is the players chosen usually none playing 1st team squad players are so short of game time. I believe we need a much stronger squad so that all players, perhaps apart from the GK are given game time something the likes of Pep can and does do. Most of our none playing senior squad players aren't good enough.
Guest Markyblue Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Spurs have some good points but if they fail to make the top 4 ,which is quite possible then watch the exodus.
KingsX Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 We are doing things right but as a self-financed entity, breaking the top echelon is a tricky shot. Spurs are showing what a long-term and difficult project that is. With their stadium debt, they’ve crashed into their limits. I could see new foreign investment there. Of clubs near us, I like West Ham’s and Wolves’ odds better than ours. Wham’s stadium deal is financial doping which gives them a huge edge. They are not well run but still hang around the best of the rest. Get their act together, and they motor into their natural financial position of sixth or seventh place. Fosun’s strategy of combining a football club with a sports agency (and supercharging it with the now-requisite foreign money) has given Wolves a different edge. From the Championship to a likely seventh or eighth place finish is startling, and shows how powerful their model can be. The League having declined to act on the apparent conflict of interest, we may see more like it. I love LCFC’s organic strategy of investing in world-class youth development to build toward the elite. “Toward” not guaranteeing “into”. But then I’d be quite happy with a stable, top-half club which can hit EL-level peaks.
Dan Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Tottenham have a good model other than the fact they don't actually win anything and clearly have a bit of a problem in being able to see anything through. He's spoken some sense here though. Refreshing hearing that kind of talk rather than the usual condescending garbage.
StriderHiryu Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 14 minutes ago, ThaiFox said: There is one big difference. Spuds have Daniel Levy. The press call him a 'shrewd businessman'. Maybe he is in the world of business, but In my view he's not when it comes to the business of chairman of Spuds. In business you speculate to accumulate. I agree with this and I personally think that all Levy is doing with Spurs is setting the club for a massive buyout where he will profit immensely. The new stadium and NFL pitch plus London location will make it worth a ton of money and he'll exit for Billions within the next 5-10 years. Hence he doesn't want to over leverage his stake in the team with players.
ThaiFox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 31 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: I agree with this and I personally think that all Levy is doing with Spurs is setting the club for a massive buyout where he will profit immensely. The new stadium and NFL pitch plus London location will make it worth a ton of money and he'll exit for Billions within the next 5-10 years. Hence he doesn't want to over leverage his stake in the team with players. Maybe that's why they call him a 'shrewd businessman'!! Personally I think he has cost spuds trophies in the past 3 years, and if Ponch and players do leave he's going to have to dig very deep, because I cannot see another top manager coming in without huge squad investment. Levy is not running the club for Ponch, or the current players and that is dangerous. He is just not competing with the other so called big five and it could cost them big time in the future. But they'll have a nice ground!
StriderHiryu Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 22 minutes ago, ThaiFox said: Maybe that's why they call him a 'shrewd businessman'!! Personally I think he has cost spuds trophies in the past 3 years, and if Ponch and players do leave he's going to have to dig very deep, because I cannot see another top manager coming in without huge squad investment. Levy is not running the club for Ponch, or the current players and that is dangerous. He is just not competing with the other so called big five and it could cost them big time in the future. But they'll have a nice ground! If he becomes a billionaire as a result of selling the club (quite likely IMO, though how much stake he has in ENIC I don't know) then yes, he's a shrewd businessman indeed. But in it for his own gain rather than the club's.
nnfox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 1 hour ago, shailen said: I think we have the infrastructure, the owners, the fans and our recent history to become as good as Tottenham. Geographically as well we are the biggest club in the Midlands atm. If we carry on growing as we have been and attracting the players and managers that we have, we will get there. It used to be the big four and then man city and spurs joined the party. Why can't we be the next team? I was going to make the same point. There has been a transition over time. We moved from a big two, to a big three and then a big four and now it's a big six. No reason why there can't be a big seven with us being the next inductee into that exclusive club.
whoareyaaa Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 we won the league so anything can happen top six is doable plus we have a solid structure in place with players and now staff to execute it.
Blue ROI Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Maybe Tottenham might win the league against all the odds one day and become the new Leicester! #justsayin
lildave3 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 2 hours ago, Happy Fox said: I think that is wrong to say that it was Puel that had no interest in cups, under Brendan it's all about the cups for me. Can’t wait for the 2nd round of the Carabao next year when he plays a weakened team. If he had no interest in cups how did we accidentally keep ending up in Quarter Finals?
Fox92 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 3 hours ago, MPH said: correction. Puel clearly had no interest in the cups. Not sure why I keep seeing this. He made the quarter finals of the league cup twice and the quarter finals of the FA Cup once. Newport was a cock up but these things happen. That team should have still beaten Newport. Rodgers will still play a weakened team. His Liverpool team once lost to Oldham in the FA Cup.
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