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If you have watched Manchester City play under Pep Guardiola you will be familiar with the process. City attack in numbers: the centre-backs on the halfway line, both full-backs pushed up, the midfield dominating possession. If City have the ball, they have a good chance of scoring. But if they lose it, well, you know what is coming next.

Of course, City are desperate to win the ball back quickly and go straight into the press. But if that press fails, the opposition have a huge open space to break into, with just two or three stranded defenders in their way. In that instant, the odds have swung in their favour and City know they are at risk. And that is when the tactical foul is deployed. A City player ends the attack, giving their team-mates those crucial few seconds to run back and rearrange themselves behind the ball. And the chance of City conceding drops.

Guardiola has repeatedly denied that he would tell players to foul. But that claim is undermined by the footage in Amazon’s All Or Nothing documentary showing Mikel Arteta, then Guardiola’s assistant, instructing players to do exactly that before a game. “David (Silva), Kevin (De Bruyne), Gundo (Ilkay Gundogan), make fouls,” Arteta says. “If there is a transition, make a foul. If you can do it, better than Gundo, better than the defenders.”

The implication of that last point is clear. If someone is going to get booked for the foul, it would be better being an attacking player (Silva or De Bruyne) rather than midfielder Gundogan or the back four. In Guardiola’s system, everything, even the fouling, is meticulously planned and apportioned.

This might all sound like singling City out. But the data makes clear that City are the most consistent offenders when it comes to illegally stopping opposition attacks. Opta have been gathering information on this since the 2017-18 season, measuring the number of opposition turnovers each team faces and the number of those turnovers that end in a foul. The key number, effectively the rate of tactical fouling, is the percentage relationship between the two.

Manchester City were responsible for the second and third highest rates that Opta have on record.

So far in 2019-20, City have committed 117 fouls to stop 1,540 opposition turnovers, a rate of 7.6 per cent. In 2017-18, City committed 180 fouls to stop 2,587 opposition turnovers, a rate of 6.96 per cent. The only club to record a higher rate is Arsenal this season, with a rate of 8.2 per cent. And we know who took over as their new manager in December.

 

https://theathletic.com/1603079/2020/02/18/tactical-fouls-man-city-arsenal-liverpool/

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Been thinking about the wingers we've "missed" out on, like Jahanbakhsh , Bergwijn and Ziyech. All signed for reasonable fees from the dutch Eredivisie. Jahanbakhsh  has done nothing this season. Will the others do the same. All these players have been around for a while but no one has paid the big money that you would think bearing in mind their goal scoring records. Have we missed a trick or dodged a bullet(s).

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1 hour ago, Long Eaton Fox said:

Been thinking about the wingers we've "missed" out on, like Jahanbakhsh , Bergwijn and Ziyech. All signed for reasonable fees from the dutch Eredivisie. Jahanbakhsh  has done nothing this season. Will the others do the same. All these players have been around for a while but no one has paid the big money that you would think bearing in mind their goal scoring records. Have we missed a trick or dodged a bullet(s).

Jahanbakhsh is laughably poor . One worldie in 2+ years but  possibly even worse than Ghezzal.

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1 hour ago, Long Eaton Fox said:

Been thinking about the wingers we've "missed" out on, like Jahanbakhsh , Bergwijn and Ziyech. All signed for reasonable fees from the dutch Eredivisie. Jahanbakhsh  has done nothing this season. Will the others do the same. All these players have been around for a while but no one has paid the big money that you would think bearing in mind their goal scoring records. Have we missed a trick or dodged a bullet(s).

Hakim Ziyech... Add him to that list next year. :ph34r:

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1 hour ago, Long Eaton Fox said:

Been thinking about the wingers we've "missed" out on, like Jahanbakhsh , Bergwijn and Ziyech. All signed for reasonable fees from the dutch Eredivisie. Jahanbakhsh  has done nothing this season. Will the others do the same. All these players have been around for a while but no one has paid the big money that you would think bearing in mind their goal scoring records. Have we missed a trick or dodged a bullet(s).

How about Pepe , he was only 72million and has slammed in four goals this season.

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3 hours ago, weller54 said:

Son has got his cast on

Hip hip hip hooray

Son has got his cast on and he can't fvcking play.

The son ain't gonna shine anymore
The kane ain't gonna rise in the sky
The tears are always clouding your eyes
When you're without goals, baby

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On 18/02/2020 at 14:46, KingsX said:

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   Go ahead and   SonCry.JPG.13adcf5c66cba95bf46b0c7d76f430bd.JPG  then, you serial whiners.  We'll send Levy a postcard.

 

Bloody Spurs. Believing they deserve to sit on a table with Bayern, Barca, Man U, Liverpool etc.because they happen to be going through a purple match. Traditionally, they’ve been a mid table team and I wish their fans would stop pretending they have this great history (decent FA Cup record mind).

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1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Bloody Spurs. Believing they deserve to sit on a table with Bayern, Barca, Man U, Liverpool etc.because they happen to be going through a purple match. Traditionally, they’ve been a mid table team and I wish their fans would stop pretending they have this great history (decent FA Cup record mind).

The most entitled supporters in the World!

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Think they will defo rest Laporte against us which will be the only player they can’t swap for someone just as good. They could rest de bruyne aguero silva and still have Mahrez sterling and Fernandinho to come in 🙈

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3 minutes ago, Md9 said:

Think they will defo rest Laporte against us which will be the only player they can’t swap for someone just as good. They could rest de bruyne aguero silva and still have Mahrez sterling and Fernandinho to come in 🙈

Sterling got a hamstring injury so it would be suicide for pep to play him before Real Madrid 

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