dooflip Posted 4 June 2019 Share Posted 4 June 2019 Would be decent business. Low ish wage and low cost. No sell on but pretty much risk free. Good player and good attitude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 4 June 2019 Share Posted 4 June 2019 30 minutes ago, FoxFossil said: Sturridge, Vardy, Robben. Barnes, Maddison, Tielemans, Chillwell, Maguire, Evans, Peirera Kasper. Looks top 6 to me. Absolutely NO balance to that team at all. That midfield is a riot. You need more than two defensive players in a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMELcfc Posted 4 June 2019 Share Posted 4 June 2019 So we are selling Chilwell, Maguire and Maddison, not getting Tielemans but we are going in on James Rodriguez... God I hate what boredom does to journalists during transfer windows 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Poznan34 Posted 4 June 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 4 June 2019 1 3 hours ago, GingerrrFox said: Anyone who wouldn’t take a 22 goal striker from the Championship for £5 million needs their head checking tbh. He’s not gonna be first choice but I tell you now I’d be more confident of Rodriguez burying a chance coming off the bench than Ihenacho or Okazaki. 22 goals yes, but... 8 of those were penalties, the highest in the division. Scoring penalties is not really indicative of open play goal scoring ability. Removing pens leaves 14 goals in 47 games (4132 minutes) - a lot of games...so we need to account for time on the pitch... ...his rate of non-penalty goals per 90 minutes played was actually only the 39th best in the Championship last season (for players with over 20 games played) So, a bit of context to cut through the "20 goal a season striker" narrative...he's not all that, we can do better. (bonus stat: 6 assists, the same as our lad Barnes, who was there half a season...so he's not setting up loads of goals either) (all this in a WBA team who scored the second most in the division) 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 4 June 2019 Share Posted 4 June 2019 2 minutes ago, Poznan34 said: 22 goals yes, but... 8 of those were penalties, the highest in the division. Scoring penalties is not really indicative of open play goal scoring ability. Removing pens leaves 14 goals in 47 games (4132 minutes) - a lot of games...so we need to account for time on the pitch... ...his rate of non-penalty goals per 90 minutes played was actually only the 39th best in the Championship last season (for players with over 20 games played) So, a bit of context to cut through the "20 goal a season striker" narrative...he's not all that, we can do better. (bonus stat: 6 assists, the same as our lad Barnes, who was there half a season...so he's not setting up loads of goals either) (all this in a WBA team who scored the second most in the division) Great post and on the evidence of that I'm out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHawk Posted 4 June 2019 Share Posted 4 June 2019 He wouldn't be my first choice, but at that price and as back up it may leave more funds for a winger and midfielder which have to be priority as we need players in those positions to go into the team and not the squad. We can always look for a younger vards replacement in January or next summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywood_6 Posted 4 June 2019 Share Posted 4 June 2019 He'd be a good backup for Vardy. £5 million is nothing, would be pleased with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 4 June 2019 Share Posted 4 June 2019 37 minutes ago, Poznan34 said: 22 goals yes, but... 8 of those were penalties, the highest in the division. Scoring penalties is not really indicative of open play goal scoring ability. Removing pens leaves 14 goals in 47 games (4132 minutes) - a lot of games...so we need to account for time on the pitch... ...his rate of non-penalty goals per 90 minutes played was actually only the 39th best in the Championship last season (for players with over 20 games played) So, a bit of context to cut through the "20 goal a season striker" narrative...he's not all that, we can do better. (bonus stat: 6 assists, the same as our lad Barnes, who was there half a season...so he's not setting up loads of goals either) (all this in a WBA team who scored the second most in the division) have we really turned full circle in the ‘penalties done count’ discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 4 June 2019 Share Posted 4 June 2019 1 hour ago, RobHawk said: He wouldn't be my first choice, but at that price and as back up it may leave more funds for a winger and midfielder which have to be priority as we need players in those positions to go into the team and not the squad. We can always look for a younger vards replacement in January or next summer That's a good point. We may have someone in mind who won't be available until winter or summer. Timing is everything if we're after a specific person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 I think he'd be a superb back up signing. Works hard, can hold up the ball and scores. At that price it makes so much sense, can't imagine his wages would be unreasonable either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 36 minutes ago, Stadt said: I think he'd be a superb back up signing. Works hard, can hold up the ball and scores. At that price it makes so much sense, can't imagine his wages would be unreasonable either. If Vardy gets injured for significant amount of time, you really want Jay Rodriguez leading the line for our top 6 push? Surely we can do better. As a 3rd or 4th choice back-up maybe, but we need a striker who can genuinely push Vardy for a starting place. Iheanacho was supposed to be it, he wasn't but that doesn't mean we should start signing squad fillers now and hang our hopes on Vardy being fit all season. If we are genuinely attempting to break into the top 6 as Rodgers says, then we need at least two quality strikers, with a top young prospect coming through too, ideally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 1 hour ago, STUHILL said: If Vardy gets injured for significant amount of time, you really want Jay Rodriguez leading the line for our top 6 push? Surely we can do better. As a 3rd or 4th choice back-up maybe, but we need a striker who can genuinely push Vardy for a starting place. Iheanacho was supposed to be it, he wasn't but that doesn't mean we should start signing squad fillers now and hang our hopes on Vardy being fit all season. If we are genuinely attempting to break into the top 6 as Rodgers says, then we need at least two quality strikers, with a top young prospect coming through too, ideally. Outside the top 6 how many teams have one genuinely good striker aside from us and Wolves? As back up for a season or two he’s a brilliant option. If we want a striker to challenge Vardy we’re going to have to spend top dollar (which we don’t really have) or unearth a gem which seems unlikely. Better option than Slimani and Iheanaco, had a great season at West Brom, prem experience, tall, deceptively mobile, good all round game. I think turning our noses up at him is snobbery; especially when the last inexpensive player we bought from West Brom was one of our best players last season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 His Grand-Father (Peter) was one of the best full backs ever seen at this Club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 Not for me he is a lower end premier league striker at best in the championship he can score a hatful like Gayle. Sturridge is a far better option imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 16 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: Not for me he is a lower end premier league striker at best in the championship he can score a hatful like Gayle. Sturridge is a far better option imo. Yeah but not when he’s got a broken finger nail sitting on the treatment table 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Guiza Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 Wouldn't be adverse to him at that price. He's certainly a better option than our current options in that department, minus Vardy of course. He was a very good player at Southampton and would likely have been on the fringe of the England squad for years had it not been for injuries, seems to have rediscovered his form and fitness at WBA. We, as a club, also have a far better history with this type of player than we do with big money forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 8 minutes ago, David Guiza said: Wouldn't be adverse to him at that price. He's certainly a better option than our current options in that department, minus Vardy of course. He was a very good player at Southampton and would likely have been on the fringe of the England squad for years had it not been for injuries, seems to have rediscovered his form and fitness at WBA. We, as a club, also have a far better history with this type of player than we do with big money forwards. Good shout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poznan34 Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 9 hours ago, MPH said: have we really turned full circle in the ‘penalties done count’ discussion? I'm not aware of any previous discussion, but they really shouldn't count. They basically give a player a chance to inflate their goal tally without demonstrating the sort of skill you would want to see when evaluating a striker - ie. finding space and getting a shot off under pressure. *Before you say the actual scoring of penalties is the skill, they are almost universally (across leagues, countries, seasons) converted at the same rate, 80%, so there's not a lot to read into them really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 We should be looking to spend at least £40m on a striker. Enough of this bargain basement shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merchant_Banker Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 1 minute ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: We should be looking to spend at least £40m on a striker. Enough of this bargain basement shit. That's easy, Tell WBA we are ignoring the release clause and offer £40m. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Claw II Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 He is a good player but a bit injury prone. I could see him being an option out wide or up-front. Rodriguez would be an upgrade on Shinji who he would be replacing. I think Brendan will give Nacho a season also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Claw II Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 45 minutes ago, Poznan34 said: I'm not aware of any previous discussion, but they really shouldn't count. They basically give a player a chance to inflate their goal tally without demonstrating the sort of skill you would want to see when evaluating a striker - ie. finding space and getting a shot off under pressure. *Before you say the actual scoring of penalties is the skill, they are almost universally (across leagues, countries, seasons) converted at the same rate, 80%, so there's not a lot to read into them really. I think he is referring to the penalties Vardy scores when we say he is a 15-20 goal a season striker etc. My personal view is that any professional footballer should be able to kick a static ball into a top corner from 12 yards. Conversion rates should be near 100%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 47 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: We should be looking to spend at least £40m on a striker. Enough of this bargain basement shit. We're not spending that sort of money on a backup player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 55 minutes ago, Finn Claw II said: He is a good player but a bit injury prone. I could see him being an option out wide or up-front. Rodriguez would be an upgrade on Shinji who he would be replacing. I think Brendan will give Nacho a season also. He’s had three injuries in his career, one really bad one but not a patch on Sturridge’s injury list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 5 June 2019 Share Posted 5 June 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, mozartfox said: His Grand-Father (Peter) was one of the best full backs ever seen at this Club. Up to the 80s, Leicester always found a top bline,and those 2 eras covering Rodrigues and Rofe,were probably our best between ' ice-kings' and the the title season... Edited 5 June 2019 by fuchsntf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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