The VAR thread

[st albans fox]

12 minutes ago, turlo said:

why the f do they show a different image on TV from what the VAR decision is based on?

They no longer get access to the official image until it’s released by stockley park 

[jmono84]

37 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

On the two stills, it seems that only the ball has moved and nothing else!  That’s not possible 

What is all this about? Is this for real?

 

Sorry I’m not asking you Albans just to anyone who can explain this

Edited 8 November 2021 by jmono84

[KFS]

It’s because he weren’t offside and we’re being robbed by a corrupt deep state

[st albans fox]

Just now, KFS said:

It’s because he weren’t offside and we’re being robbed by a corrupt deep state

Yep - I’m cancelling my booster in protest! 
 

then I’m off to Uxbridge to glue myself to the gates of stockley park………

[KFS]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

Yep - I’m cancelling my booster in protest! 
 

then I’m off to Uxbridge to glue myself to the gates of stockley park………

Kavanaugh is a paid actor and they got one with extra bad teeth to try and fool us. 

[jammie82uk]

54 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

On the two stills, it seems that only the ball has moved and nothing else!  That’s not possible 

Have noticed another small difference, on the left pic you can see Vardy’s left foot, on the right pic you can’t see it, it seems the Leeds defender closest to camera has moved very slightly altho he’s in the same pose but nobody else has in the pics 

Edited 8 November 2021 by jammie82uk

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, jammie82uk said:

Have noticed another small difference, on the left pic you can see Vardy’s left foot, on the right pic you can’t see it, the Leeds defender closest to camera has moved very slightly but nobody else has in the pics 

When we defend set pieces we also appear to be playing statues !  
 

and at least Barnes is onside!

Edited 8 November 2021 by st albans fox

[Tom12345]

6 hours ago, mozartfox said:

It was offside and I thought that straight away.  In such cases where it is marginal within CM’s perhaps the goal should be allowed given the intention of off side is probably meant for more obvious situations?

Yeah. Same thoughts. The linesmen and the ref are there to make those calls. If to the naked eye it is onside then it should be onside because that would be what it looked like to the players! Players can’t see the imaginary lines that VAR draws! VAR should really be there to correct only clear and obvious errors. Perhaps the way to do it would be to keep on field decisions unless VAR sees a clear half body or more offside. You may argue what is half a body - I will let the experts make that up but it is no different to the nose hair way they are doing now. I want football as originally intended.

Edited 9 November 2021 by Tom12345

[tom27111]

VAR.

 

Hmmmm

 

Would you rather take a winner at Leeds or win th FA Cup?

 

Rightly or wrongly, it is that simple.

[st albans fox]

8 hours ago, Tom12345 said:

Yeah. Same thoughts. The linesmen and the ref are there to make those calls. If to the naked eye it is onside then it should be onside because that would be what it looked like to the players! Players can’t see the imaginary lines that VAR draws! VAR should really be there to correct only clear and obvious errors. Perhaps the way to do it would be to keep on field decisions unless VAR sees a clear half body or more offside. You may argue what is half a body - I will let the experts make that up but it is no different to the nose hair way they are doing now. I want football as originally intended.

They aren’t using nose hair any more 

 

lookman was offside by more than enough to be offside - and because the play was fairly static set play, he should have kept himself onside. 

[ozleicester]

Woohoo 100 pages. That VAR has solved all the errors, problems and confusion.

[fuchsntf]

8 hours ago, tom27111 said:

VAR.

 

Hmmmm

 

Would you rather take a winner at Leeds or win th FA Cup?

 

Rightly or wrongly, it is that simple.

Ahhj. Gottcha!!

 

A VAR- 5th columnist trying to work from the inside, with subtle crafty posts to keep the discontent running..

How much are they paying you..or are you a Stockley-Park..paid up double agent..With promised FA & FIFA coupons..

Edited 9 November 2021 by fuchsntf

[Spudulike]

8 hours ago, tom27111 said:

VAR.

 

Hmmmm

 

Would you rather take a winner at Leeds or win th FA Cup?

 

Rightly or wrongly, it is that simple.

I would rather they used the technology correctly and consistantly to make the right decisions in all cases. 

[Aus Fox]

14 hours ago, dayday said:

Strange ain’t it, you watch the Rugby and they pretty much come to the right decision every time and they tell us why they come to that decision, yet when you come to Var, you’re still scratching your head as they still cannot get it right and without explanation, bugs me big time.

The difference in Rugby, is just as you explained it, they tell us the decision and how they came to it. That way, even if you disagree with the decision you know the refs thinking and how they came to that decision. In football we are all left thinking, why?

If on Sunday they had just said at the time, I believe the ball had come off Lookman or I don’t think it was a clear goal scoring opportunity, we can all move on.

[Aus Fox]

8 hours ago, tom27111 said:

VAR.

 

Hmmmm

 

Would you rather take a winner at Leeds or win th FA Cup?

 

Rightly or wrongly, it is that simple.

It’s not that simple, can’t I just have correct decision made with referees who come out at the end of the game and explain their decisions and thinking, just like managers and players do.

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, Aus Fox said:

It’s not that simple, can’t I just have correct decision made with referees who come out at the end of the game and explain their decisions and thinking, just like managers and players do.

Through VAR, football is becoming a laughing stock of incompetence..

The richest worst organised sport in the World...

American sports, Tennis,Rugby league,

Rugby union are 15-20yrs in front of our

Football authorities baboons..

[Clever Fox]

I'd prefer to see no offsides from Corners, The object of the game is to encourage Goals as that's what creates the excitement.

Because of the proximity of the players and the speed of a corner kick there should be no offside until the ball clears the Box, Then normal rules apply.

[st albans fox]

13 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I'd prefer to see no offsides from Corners, The object of the game is to encourage Goals as that's what creates the excitement.

Because of the proximity of the players and the speed of a corner kick there should be no offside until the ball clears the Box, Then normal rules apply.

Unintended consequences 

 

you’ll have the six yard box close to the goal line full of players and you’ll perhaps have less goals as a consequence? We never used to see these offsides because there was always a player on a post. The modern way of dealing with near post flick ons is to avoid having players on posts - hence we also see more goals than we used to in the form of near post headers going in at the far post (like Gabriel’s for Arsenal). Changing the laws to try and compensate for small adjustments in tactics is surely not the way to evolve the game ??

In addition does that mean you can stand  immediately in front of the goalkeeper without fear of any sanction for the whole time that the ball remains in play in the box  ?

 

 

[foxinsocks]

Offside should require a margin of 6 inches.  This will be to the advantage of strikers.

The off side lines should be drawn the base of the penis.

[Clever Fox]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Unintended consequences 

 

you’ll have the six yard box close to the goal line full of players and you’ll perhaps have less goals as a consequence? We never used to see these offsides because there was always a player on a post. The modern way of dealing with near post flick ons is to avoid having players on posts - hence we also see more goals than we used to in the form of near post headers going in at the far post (like Gabriel’s for Arsenal). Changing the laws to try and compensate for small adjustments in tactics is surely not the way to evolve the game ??

In addition does that mean you can stand  immediately in front of the goalkeeper without fear of any sanction for the whole time that the ball remains in play in the box  ?

 

 

I see what you're saying, But the Goal area and  6 yd box is already full of players pushing and shoving anyway which I think Refs need to be tougher on. I don't see how having no offside from Corners would lead to less Goals surely it would just improve the opportunity to Score.

Players have been standing in front of Keepers for years with Refs doing little or nothing about it. So I assume they must have changed the rule to allow offside maybe I missed it.

Keepers already have the advantage given that they can use their hands and reach. It's just a thought anyway, I guess nothing will change as the the league and FA are retarded when it comes to improving the game.

 

[MalletFox]

1 hour ago, foxinsocks said:

Offside should require a margin of 6 inches.  This will be to the advantage of strikers.

The off side lines should be drawn the base of the penis.

But their will always be a disputable line, I.e, was the player 6.1” offside? So it doesn’t really matter where you move that boundary, a call needs to be made either way with minimal room for error.

[st albans fox]

23 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I see what you're saying, But the Goal area and  6 yd box is already full of players pushing and shoving anyway which I think Refs need to be tougher on. I don't see how having no offside from Corners would lead to less Goals surely it would just improve the opportunity to Score.

Players have been standing in front of Keepers for years with Refs doing little or nothing about it. So I assume they must have changed the rule to allow offside maybe I missed it.

Keepers already have the advantage given that they can use their hands and reach. It's just a thought anyway, I guess nothing will change as the the league and FA are retarded when it comes to improving the game.

 

It won’t work like that 

 

and players can stand on goalkeepers but they have to move away if they are going to be offside 

 

in your no offside world, they will be able to stand on the goalkeeper all the time until the ball has gone into the goal !   
 

sorry but it doesn’t work 

[foxinsocks]

21 minutes ago, MalletFox said:

But their will always be a disputable line, I.e, was the player 6.1” offside? So it doesn’t really matter where you move that boundary, a call needs to be made either way with minimal room for error.

Yes you are right.... but I am trying here to stop defenders pushing up.

[st albans fox]

54 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

Yes you are right.... but I am trying here to stop defenders pushing up.

Why?  its part of the art of being a defender. in the same way as attackers play on the shoulder.  don't dismiss defenders. not everyone can be a striker   

[BenTheFox]

21 hours ago, dayday said:

Strange ain’t it, you watch the Rugby and they pretty much come to the right decision every time and they tell us why they come to that decision, yet when you come to Var, you’re still scratching your head as they still cannot get it right and without explanation, bugs me big time.

I agree they implement video technology better (they first introduced it around twenty years ago so they've had a long time to tweak it), but I still think they've overdone it. Rugby matches are now pretty much all lasting longer than two hours. I preferred watching it when they could only use the TMO in the act of scoring. Now they can go multiple phases back to find a reason to disallow a try.