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The VAR thread

By DJ Barry Hammond, in Leicester City Forum

What are your thoughts on VAR?  

679 members have voted

  1. 1. What are your thoughts on VAR?

    • Love it, all for it, fantastic introduction to football
      109
    • Hate it, games gone
      236
    • Somewhere in between
      334

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  • Poll closed on 17/05/20 at 19:00

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Lambert09

Lambert09

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7 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Therein lies an issue then if they didn't want the hassle.

 

If it's a red card incident (which this arguably was) then it should have been checked.

 

First you check if any part of the play was offside. Came off Struijk so that's a no.

 

Second is if there's any foul in the build-up. There was, on Vardy.

 

So I think the VAR official (who was it?) got it wrong. Can understand the on-field officials not noticing it because it was close between Struijk and Lookman. But this is why VAR was brought in - to correct these kinds of issues. I think they messed up.

I completely agree, but with the amount of time spent... it’s clear they just ignored it tbh. 
 

probably just had a look if he was in the box. 
 

I think the pressure on officials to speed up decisions wasn’t actually a good move. 

Guest Kopfkino

Guest Kopfkino

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36 minutes ago, Phube said:

The Lookman offside is not the contentious one.

 

It’s Vardy’s offside/foul/red when the ball was played by the Leeds player that is the contentions one. This should have led at least free kick to us.

 

The reason I believe it was not given was because of Evan’s missed handball at the start of the move. Which would have led to huge arguments from Leeds.

Not sure it’s a clear DOGSO tbh, could have been given for sure but not sure it’s that clear, doesn’t have control of the ball and is going laterally rather than towards goal from memory but would have to see it again. Think we got stuffed over a bit by the fact the flag went up straight away so the ref didn’t make a decision on it, he could easily have given it

Clever Fox

Clever Fox

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They need to show the Var image from the point Vardy's head hits the Ball that's the point to make the Call. But we're not being shown that.

We're now dealing in Mili seconds but that's how close these things are.

 

The Vardy free kick , If Evans did handle the ball which I didn't see then that explains that one.

 

i still think Var should be a 3 man panel with 2 from 3 making the call. With just one person it's open to corruption.

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jmono84

jmono84

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13 hours ago, Phube said:

The Lookman offside is not the contentious one.

 

It’s Vardy’s offside/foul/red when the ball was played by the Leeds player that is the contentions one. This should have led at least free kick to us.

 

The reason I believe it was not given was because of Evan’s missed handball at the start of the move. Which would have led to huge arguments from Leeds.

Don’t know about the Evans handball, don’t remember that bit but I doubt that’s the reason why they haven’t overturned it. I think it’s yet again another blunder from VAR for us yet again!

 

The ball has clearly come off the Leeds player so it’s impossible for Vardy to be offside. It’s a straight red, VAR didn’t want to make that massive decision.

Spudulike

Spudulike

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Our players are too soft and nice. They should've been going crazy about the Vardy decision and drawing attention to the foul. It makes it so easy for VAR official's to dismiss it. Vardy tried his best but got no backup. 

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RowlattsFox

RowlattsFox

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I think the Vardy one is pretty obvious what they've done, they don't think its a red card offence (I've not seen it again but I don't think you can definitely say its a clear goal scoring opportunity as Vardy doesn't have the ball, he's tried to win the foul) so therefore they couldn't do anything else. Should've been a free kick and a yellow but they can't use VAR for that. The linesman doesn't put his flag up then maybe we get a different outcome. 

StanSP

StanSP

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1 minute ago, RowlattsFox said:

Should've been a free kick and a yellow but they can't use VAR for that.

I'd the with the proximity of the foul being close to goal, it could be argued its a denial of a goalscoring opportunity. That's for the VAR to decide. All they say was the offside. But upon checking it, they can clearly see Struijk has touched the ball yet continue with the offside decision. 

KrefelderFox666

KrefelderFox666

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6 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I'd the with the proximity of the foul being close to goal, it could be argued its a denial of a goalscoring opportunity. That's for the VAR to decide. All they say was the offside. But upon checking it, they can clearly see Struijk has touched the ball yet continue with the offside decision. 

The problem lies with the application of VAR. Goals, penalties, red cards and mistaken identity. Unfortunately, neither of those were applicable to the foul on Vardy yesterday other than the red card. And it seems they didn't think it was a red card so they cannot change anything else the ref hasn't given.

 

It's a bit of a tricky one. Do you change the way VAR works and allow it to be applied for everything, thus causing potential havoc in a match where endless things are reviewed (where do you stop)?

 

What should have happened yesterday is that the ref (who is stood right next to it) realises that was a foul and gives a freekick and the linesman doesn't put his flag up. Not sure if the ref was going to give a freekick or whether the offside flag prevented him. There was just too much going on in that 3 second scene. It needed a full analysis of all parts (offside, foul or not, in the box or not, red card or not).

Free Falling Foxes

Free Falling Foxes

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Even if VAR was perfect in every way, I still would miss the spontaneous joy of seeing a goal.

 

Yes, some goals such as Youri's screamers are relatively 'safe' to celebrate but 'goals' such as Lookman's yesterday, didn't remotely get me excited. First thought was, VAR will be all over that. Sure enough, disappointment followed.

Oh for the good old days when a quick glimpse at the ref and lino told you all you needed to know.

 

Then again, VAR was a dear friend in the cup final.

 

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SemperEadem

SemperEadem

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5 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

Even if VAR was perfect in every way, I still would miss the spontaneous joy of seeing a goal.

 

Yes, some goals such as Youri's screamers are relatively 'safe' to celebrate but 'goals' such as Lookman's yesterday, didn't remotely get me excited. First thought was, VAR will be all over that. Sure enough, disappointment followed.

Oh for the good old days when a quick glimpse at the ref and lino told you all you needed to know.

 

Then again, VAR was a dear friend in the cup final.

 

Last point is why there will sadly never be much of anti feeling to it from the masses at our club.

Ashley

Ashley

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4 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Last point is why there will sadly never be much of anti feeling to it from the masses at our club.

To be honest. I've always been a fan. 

 

VAR works. You just need to look at other leagues and the European Championships this summer. The problem isn't VAR never has been. It's the referees. If that changes you won't see the moaning about VAR

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SemperEadem

SemperEadem

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3 minutes ago, Ashley said:

To be honest. I've always been a fan. 

 

VAR works. You just need to look at other leagues and the European Championships this summer. The problem isn't VAR never has been. It's the referees. If that changes you won't see the moaning about VAR

It destroys passion, the greatest thing about football.

 

Fans the world over despise it.

mozartfox

mozartfox

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It was offside and I thought that straight away.  In such cases where it is marginal within CM’s perhaps the goal should be allowed given the intention of off side is probably meant for more obvious situations?

dayday

dayday

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Strange ain’t it, you watch the Rugby and they pretty much come to the right decision every time and they tell us why they come to that decision, yet when you come to Var, you’re still scratching your head as they still cannot get it right and without explanation, bugs me big time.

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jammie82uk

jammie82uk

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9 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

On the two stills, it seems that only the ball has moved and nothing else!  That’s not possible 

Completely agree but it’s apparently happened 

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