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Been watching this on and off all morning.

 

Just going round and round in circles.

 

Someone makes a point, and then someone makes the complete opposite opinion on the same point.  Both cannot be right.  Ridiculous.

 

We're in this mess because from day one the way in which the govt has gone about this throughout the whole process has been a complete shambles.

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2 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Been watching this on and off all morning.

 

Just going round and round in circles.

 

Someone makes a point, and then someone makes the complete opposite opinion on the same point.  Both cannot be right.  Ridiculous.

 

We're in this mess because from day one the way in which the govt has gone about this throughout the whole process has been a complete shambles.

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And I thought there was a Section 14 Order in place in London at the moment??

 

Surely the police should be arresting the tens of thousands marchers and protesters in Parliament Square?? :D

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Just getting team news in for this afternoon's European tie.....

 

GK: Cable

RB: Gyimah

CB: Grieve

CB: Letwin

LB: Long-Bailey

DMC: Cherry

RW: S. Wilson

CM: Benn

No. 10: Starmer

No. 9: Lucas

No. 11: McDonnell

 

Corbyn suffered a suspiciously convenient injury during the warm-up.....

 

Think we have the midfield creativity and the tricky wing play there to go a long way in Europe.....

 

Ah, feck politics, feck Brexit, it's football that matters...... :D

 

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42 minutes ago, LiberalFox said:

Shouldn't have ever been a referendum, nobody would be demanding we leave the EU right now if we didn't.

Nonsense.

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1 hour ago, LiberalFox said:

Shouldn't have ever been a referendum, nobody would be demanding we leave the EU right now if we didn't.

Isn’t that the whole reason we were allowed a referendum, the rise of UKIP who were demanding we left the EU?

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Just now, Legend_in_blue said:

Decent result in the commons today.  How anyone can be expected to act and agree to a deal based on a document received from the govt this morning which is over 500 pages long given no time to scrutinise this is beyond belief.

 

The govt's handling of the whole situation is a total shambles.

No guarantee we're going to get an extension. The EU forced Macedonia and Albania into various changes over the years in order to start their accession talks this month, and Macron vetoed it this week. 

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15 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Decent result in the commons today.  How anyone can be expected to act and agree to a deal based on a document received from the govt this morning which is over 500 pages long given no time to scrutinise this is beyond belief.

To be fair, if they say the deal is pretty much the same as May’s then it is a bit of a disingenuous excuse. 

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1 hour ago, Strokes said:

Isn’t that the whole reason we were allowed a referendum, the rise of UKIP who were demanding we left the EU?

How many MPs did UKIP have? Might as well ban cars to appease the Green Party. 

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33 minutes ago, LiberalFox said:

How many MPs did UKIP have? Might as well ban cars to appease the Green Party. 

For what it's worth, I think all Lib Dems have forfeited their right to engage in any Brexit dialogue... :whistle:

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I'm just glad the peoples vote marches are the nice ones or we could see some unsavoury scenes. 

 

Good luck on the trains back when you bump into the football fans.

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6 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

It’s a shockingly blatant attempt to block Brexit.

The Lisbon treaty had three days scrutiny. THREE DAYS.  Apparently that is fine to sign our country into ever closer union, but to set ourselves free needs another three months.

At least we found out today what we knew, it was never about blocking No Deal.

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14 minutes ago, MattP said:

I'm just glad the peoples vote marches are the nice ones or we could see some unsavoury scenes. 

 

Good luck on the trains back when you bump into the football fans.

Tbf if I saw JRM after a match I’d verbally annihilate the ****. 

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Shout out to the boys in blue atm having to deal with all these protests and stuff as well as fight proper crime.

 

They're doing a sterling job.

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33 minutes ago, MattP said:

I'm just glad the peoples vote marches are the nice ones or we could see some unsavoury scenes. 

 

Good luck on the trains back when you bump into the football fans.

 

He's very calculated.  This is clearly a calculated move on his part.  Clever.  Wouldn't expect any less - he knows how to drum up a reaction.

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3 hours ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Decent result in the commons today.  How anyone can be expected to act and agree to a deal based on a document received from the govt this morning which is over 500 pages long given no time to scrutinise this is beyond belief.

 

The parliaments handling of the whole situation is a total shambles.

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39 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

It’s a shockingly blatant attempt to block Brexit.

The Lisbon treaty had three days scrutiny. THREE DAYS.  Apparently that is fine to sign our country into ever closer union, but to set ourselves free needs another three months.

 

32 minutes ago, MattP said:

At least we found out today what we knew, it was never about blocking No Deal.

 

If the main vote on the deal had passed today, that would have satisfied the Benn Act and Johnson wouldn't have had to request an extension.

As parliament seems split almost 50-50 on the deal, a handful of MPs (e.g. ERG hardliners) could then have obstructed the legislation for the deal.....taking us to No Deal on 31/10.

So, there clearly WAS a risk of imminent No Deal - and Letwin's amendment addressed that.

 

Of course, it's no secret that most of the opposition want to obstruct this particular deal or, in some cases, make it subject to a referendum.

They'd have voted for that in the main vote - and will whenever it happens. Some might hope that the extra time will allow persuasion or new info to turn some MPs' votes. But massive decisions deserve proper consideration.

If there's a majority for Johnson's deal, then it will be voted through - and the EU, or particular EU nations, may yet influence that decision in his favour.

 

For the record, Letwin himself voted for May's Deal on all 3 occasions - and said he intended to vote for Johnson's Deal. Avoiding No Deal was clearly his aim, even if others had the extra aim of securing a softer deal or a referendum.

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