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How would you improve the team in January?

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CityIsBlue

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19 hours ago, wardyfox86 said:

We are aiming for Champions League next season, so in no way should we be even the slightest bit interested in Antonio, let alone ABOVE somebody like Carrasco. He is a "purple patch" player with little to no technical ability and approaching 30.

 

Nothing against the bloke, I've seen him interviewed and he knows his own limitations but he'd get nowhere near our squad, he's below Gray and Albrighton in that regard. 

 

What is it about Carrasco you would prefer over Antonio?

 

Antonio scores more goals in the Premier League than Carrasco ever has in the top leagues he has played in, France and Spain, whilst playing for two of the very biggest sides in those leagues, Monaco and Atletico Madrid.

 

Antonio is more versatile, more physical, quicker, appears to have a higher work rate, and has a very very underrated asset that guys like Musa/Slimani/Silva never had when we signed them.....He's Premier League proven.

 

 

Gray, and more importantly Albrighton, need replacing urgently. Albrighton wouldn't get into some Championship sides.

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Dahnsouff

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Antonio is

  • older
  • more injury prone
  • limited in terms of resale value 

and that is just to start with

 

I like him as a player, but nope, not for me.

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wardyfox86

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59 minutes ago, CityIsBlue said:

 

What is it about Carrasco you would prefer over Antonio?

 

Antonio scores more goals in the Premier League than Carrasco ever has in the top leagues he has played in, France and Spain, whilst playing for two of the very biggest sides in those leagues, Monaco and Atletico Madrid.

 

Antonio is more versatile, more physical, quicker, appears to have a higher work rate, and has a very very underrated asset that guys like Musa/Slimani/Silva never had when we signed them.....He's Premier League proven.

 

 

Gray, and more importantly Albrighton, need replacing urgently. Albrighton wouldn't get into some Championship sides.

He'll be the wrong side of 30 by the start of next season, is becoming more injury prone, severely lacks the technical qualities that Brendan prefers in his teams. Granted he's a grafter, but so is Albrighton and he is below the quality we now require.

 

We are going up a level next season, and although like you say he may offer something different, I'd argue that 'something' isn't what we need.

 

Its all about opinions though mate, and to be honest I'd be surprised if we have even acknowledged either.

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18 hours ago, casablancas said:

I’d take Anotonio he’s a real athlete and can do what most out squad can’t ... head the ball.  He can play across the front 3 and slot in at wing back. I’d be happy with him. 

Would anyone take Harry Wilson? Fits the mould and he obviously has talent. I’d also love their keeper ... Ramsdale looks like he could be England number one for next 15 years. 

Agreed, Antonio would add something we don't have and is a very versatile player.

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2 hours ago, CityIsBlue said:

Antonio is more versatile, more physical, quicker, appears to have a higher work rate, and has a very very underrated asset that guys like Musa/Slimani/Silva never had when we signed them.....He's Premier League proven.

I would argue that if anything that's a very overrated asset. Ricardo, Ndidi, Soyuncu, Tielemans and Maddison were not Premier League proven players. We can't spend as much as Liverpool, the Manchester clubs etc, so if we want to compete with them we have to spend better instead. That means value for money, and that means looking outside of the Premier League. 

 

Antonio would be at best a rotation option for a year or two. I don't think he's a bad player by any means but I can't see him being anything like what we're looking for, both from a financial point of view and in terms of what Rodgers would be looking for from a winger. 

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Bluearmyfox28

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22 hours ago, henrik_62 said:

If Palace are able to afford him as reported then I don’t see why Leicester shouldn’t be able to also.

Palace don’t have as many players as we do on big wages, similar to why they could afford to offer Meyer the amount of money they did to keep him there. 
 

I’m not saying it’s a issue of us being able to afford him, what I’m stating is the club may feel they can spend his wages more wisely across other positions. 

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21 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

Palace don’t have as many players as we do on big wages, similar to why they could afford to offer Meyer the amount of money they did to keep him there. 
 

I’m not saying it’s a issue of us being able to afford him, what I’m stating is the club may feel they can spend his wages more wisely across other positions. 

Isn't Palace's wage bill bigger than ours?

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20 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Antonio is

  • older
  • more injury prone
  • limited in terms of resale value 

and that is just to start with

 

I like him as a player, but nope, not for me.

This list is a major factor given our size 

 

Even if he runs down his contract, he would still want a huge s/o fee in his dea somewhere .....

 

and I believe he turned us down when he went to wet spam .....

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Josip Ilicic’s contract is up in the summer & he’s having another incredible season for Atalanta. Left footed, consistent and versatile. He can play CF, RW or as an attacking midfielder and is in contention for Serie A player of the season. Downside is he’s 31, but his stats are impressive: 


19/20: 14 goals, 6 assists in 24 matches

18/19: 13 goals, 9 assists

17/18: 15 goals, 10 assists

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Shane said:

Josip Ilicic’s contract is up in the summer & he’s having another incredible season for Atalanta. Left footed, consistent and versatile. He can play CF, RW or as an attacking midfielder and is in contention for Serie A player of the season. Downside is he’s 31, but his stats are impressive: 


19/20: 14 goals, 6 assists in 24 matches

18/19: 13 goals, 9 assists

17/18: 15 goals, 10 assists

 

 

 

Great player, we were after him under Ranieri. I'd have him even at that age.

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.. would be interesting to pick up Cavaminga from Rennes but he is probably earmarked for some where else. 

 What we need is someone who can pick the ball up in the middle of the park and bring it forward, we have the opportunity within games but no one capable of doing this. It would give the team a new dimension and illicit movement from the front three. 

 Tielemans does not do it, Praet does not do it, as it is not their game, a central player capable of bringing the ball forward in midfield will just give us the variety in our play if our original press has failed to make the break through. 

  Maybe we may see Wilfs' development as someone who like Kante can bring the ball forward and pick a pass. 

 

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11 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Great player, we were after him under Ranieri. I'd have him even at that age.

Yup! Age doesn’t matter for a player of this quality and he’ll be decent for 2-3 years atleast. The good thing is he’ll be a free transfer so we could still splash out on another winger. I’d be very happy with Vardy, Barnes, Perez, Iheanacho, Ilicic and another winger as our attacking options next year.

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Shane said:

Josip Ilicic’s contract is up in the summer & he’s having another incredible season for Atalanta. Left footed, consistent and versatile. He can play CF, RW or as an attacking midfielder and is in contention for Serie A player of the season. Downside is he’s 31, but his stats are impressive: 


19/20: 14 goals, 6 assists in 24 matches

18/19: 13 goals, 9 assists

17/18: 15 goals, 10 assists

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Shane said:

Yup! Age doesn’t matter for a player of this quality and he’ll be decent for 2-3 years atleast. The good thing is he’ll be a free transfer so we could still splash out on another winger. I’d be very happy with Vardy, Barnes, Perez, Iheanacho, Ilicic and another winger as our attacking options next year.

 

 

 

Wow what a wand!! Imagine signing this lad aswell as Hwang Hee-Chan from Salzburg. A boy can dream.

 

He turns 32 in a few days though be surprised if we ever made a move for him with our transfer strategy.

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32 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

 

Wow what a wand!! Imagine signing this lad aswell as Hwang Hee-Chan from Salzburg. A boy can dream.

 

He turns 32 in a few days though be surprised if we ever made a move for him with our transfer strategy.

Ilicic’s - Total porn :jawdrop:

 

He would be on a stretcher after pulling some of that crap at Turf Moor lol

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3 hours ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

 

Wow what a wand!! Imagine signing this lad aswell as Hwang Hee-Chan from Salzburg. A boy can dream.

 

He turns 32 in a few days though be surprised if we ever made a move for him with our transfer strategy.

We’re not averse to signing older players as we showed with Evans.

 

Vardy, Iheanacho and Ilicic as striking options would be unreal but I can’t see big Josep leaving Atalanta nor will he come here as back up 

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If Fulham do not get promoted its Mitrovic for me . Downside is 40 million at least but the upsides are not old, size and power , scores goals and has PL experience.

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1 minute ago, An Sionnach said:

If Fulham do not get promoted its Mitrovic for me . Downside is 40 million at least but the upsides are not old, size and power , scores goals and has PL experience.

Always struggled at EPL level for me, misses too many chances.  £40m would be woefully expensive for him imo.

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35 minutes ago, Stadt said:

We’re not averse to signing older players as we showed with Evans.

 

Vardy, Iheanacho and Ilicic as striking options would be unreal but I can’t see big Josep leaving Atalanta nor will he come here as back up 

As great a player as Ilicic is I think Serie A suits him in it's slow, more technical in nature style.  I think he'd struggle with the athleticism of the premier league, especially given his age.  Furthermore, I don't think he does enough going back the way to be someone Rodgers would have in his side.

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