Guest An Sionnach Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 Nuno Esprito never writes notes, if Rodgers gets too technical he will do his player's heads in and eventually disappear up his own arse. Playing an attacking line up against teams like Liverpool is stupid , we are not good enough . Playing a defensive line up is not pretty but sometimes you have to do it. It's his job to make that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, deep blue said: Against 10 men; makes a huge difference. 10 men for 80+ minutes, with Aguero, KDB and Mahrez all being subbed. And Wolves still went 2 down and only got back level thanks to an absolute clanger by Mendy in the last 10 minutes. Not having that Wolves were great last night. Edited 28 December 2019 by Sunbury Fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 10 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Nuno Esprito never writes notes, if Rodgers gets too technical he will do his player's heads in and eventually disappear up his own arse. Playing an attacking line up against teams like Liverpool is stupid , we are not good enough . Playing a defensive line up is not pretty but sometimes you have to do it. It's his job to make that decision. I wonder if there is a way to play more defensively in our usual formation by simply replacing Youri or Maddison with Hamza and Barnes with Albrighton for tougher matches against the very best teams? At least that way we have all players playing in their best positions and a familiar structure and shape. Absolutely amazed that Hamza didn't play against Liverpool, so that we could save other more creative midfielders for the game today. We now might have to play Hamza today, as others are likely to be knackered after the chasing against Liverpool, and this is not the sort of game where 2 CDMs are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 28 December 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 28 December 2019 40 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Nuno Esprito never writes notes And has a pretty average as fvck career history to date and is below us in the league. So? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 35 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said: 10 men for 80+ minutes, with Aguero, KDB and Mahrez all being subbed. And Wolves still went 2 down and only got back level thanks to an absolute clanger by Mendy in the last 10 minutes. Not having that Wolves were great last night. But they won because they showed fire and fight and we got mullered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastik Man Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 1 hour ago, An Sionnach said: Nuno Esprito never writes notes He uses his dictaphone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 Sign CB in Jan & play 3-5-2 in the tough fixtures. Usual 4-1-4-1 against everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 1 hour ago, An Sionnach said: Nuno Esprito never writes notes, if Rodgers gets too technical he will do his player's heads in and eventually disappear up his own arse. Playing an attacking line up against teams like Liverpool is stupid , we are not good enough . Playing a defensive line up is not pretty but sometimes you have to do it. It's his job to make that decision. Was him taking notes a problem three weeks ago? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebum Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 Think Brendan will be first to hold his hands up. Even Alex Ferguson got his tactics wrong from time to time. He's doing a great job, i'm sure he will learn from this. Lets not get on his back the games are gone now end of 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 10 minutes ago, somebum said: Think Brendan will be first to hold his hands up. Even Alex Ferguson got his tactics wrong from time to time. He's doing a great job, i'm sure he will learn from this. Lets not get on his back the games are gone now end of Nobody gets it right 100% of the time! He’s a fantastic manager, the players clearly respect him and he talks a lot of sense. We need to back him for the long hall - but, that doesn’t mean we can’t be critical of him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 12 minutes ago, Manini said: Nobody gets it right 100% of the time! He’s a fantastic manager, the players clearly respect him and he talks a lot of sense. We need to back him for the long hall - but, that doesn’t mean we can’t be critical of him too. As long as he doesn’t switch to long baul we’ll be ok .....😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 Just now, st albans fox said: As long as he doesn’t switch to long baul we’ll be ok .....😉 No wonder I never made it as a journo! Being able to spell is a prerequisite I imagine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 2 minutes ago, Manini said: No wonder I never made it as a journo! Being able to spell is a prerequisite I imagine! You’re excused for seeing through my cryptic reply ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 5 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said: I wonder if there is a way to play more defensively in our usual formation by simply replacing Youri or Maddison with Hamza and Barnes with Albrighton for tougher matches against the very best teams? At least that way we have all players playing in their best positions and a familiar structure and shape. Absolutely amazed that Hamza didn't play against Liverpool, so that we could save other more creative midfielders for the game today. We now might have to play Hamza today, as others are likely to be knackered after the chasing against Liverpool, and this is not the sort of game where 2 CDMs are needed. Think you're common sense suggestions would have got the backing of a number of supporters including me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 28 December 2019 Share Posted 28 December 2019 Brendan just gave a decent interviews on TS. Talked about how we played some ‘behind closed door games’ with the squad players earlier in the month to get some sharpness ...... Talked about how he wants to develop the players over the next few years .... and talked about how liverpool and Man City are different class perhaps, just perhaps he decided to play those two games with an eye to seeing how far away we actually are - to show the players how hard they need to keep working. Playing a defensive low block may have made the outcomes closer but how much would he and the players have learned ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 30 December 2019 Share Posted 30 December 2019 What I found odd about the Man City and Liverpool games were the refusal to utilize Iheanacho, in fact he wasn't even on the bench as Liverpool. In both games we were proving very little threat as the game was slipping away from us and going more direct with 2 up top and possibly 3 at the back should have been the plan b. We had 3 wingers on the bench vs Liverpool, unnecessary. If our wingers continue to be ineffective then 3-4-1-2 is a real alternative for us. If we go all put for Demiral I can see it being our favoured formation. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 The way Man City played last night without a striker/9 had Man U CB’s not knowing what an earth to mark... I do wonder if BR will employ this tactic as a future option of greater regularity (when Vardy is rested or absent) at some juncture having Gray, Pérez, Barnes who can all play at 9 anyway interchanging across the front 3 with Maddison and Youri behind in a two and Wilf behind them in a 4123 Gray Barnes Pérez Madders Youri Wilf Chil Cag Evans Ric Kasper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 2 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: The way Man City played last night without a striker/9 had Man U CB’s not knowing what an earth to mark... I do wonder if BR will employ this tactic as a future option of greater regularity (when Vardy is rested or absent) at some juncture having Gray, Pérez, Barnes who can all play at 9 anyway interchanging across the front 3 with Maddison and Youri behind in a two and Wilf behind them in a 4123 Gray Barnes Pérez Madders Youri Wilf Chil Cag Evans Ric Kasper Playing a false 9 is a really hard system to execute properly, but when Pep did it with Messi at Barcelona, it was for a long time unstoppable. Bernardo was brilliant in the role last night, but he's one off the most intelligent all round football players in the league, plus has a plethora of talents to go with that intelligence. To really make the system work, you need a great player in the role. Because of their pace and direct running I reckon Barnes or Gray could be tried there. They don't have the same level of footballing intelligence, but they still have attributes that could be effective in the same role. Maddison probably has the footballing intelligence to do it too, but I think he would be wasted in that position given how effective he is behind the striker playing in the killer balls. But put it this way I could see Maddison aged 28 potentially playing as a false 9 for one of the top teams in Europe. His potential is so high because he's got a fantastic understanding and picture of the game, as well as high technical ability. The other team worth looking at is Liverpool with Firmino who also plays as a different style of false 9. He comes deep but doesn't support the attack as much as Mane and Salah. So it's more like he starts as a 9, but actually plays as a 10 if that makes sense. Perez or Maddison could play that sort of position quite well I reckon. In fact Perez against both Newcastle and West Ham was getting into that sort of space and causing chaos on multiple occasions. At the end of the day if a tactic works, then it's a good one. I don't think it's something we need to rush out and try, but fair play to Pep in playing that way Fred ended up almost being 1 v 6'd in central midfield and Man United saw almost none of the ball, meaning Man U's counter attack game was nullified which had earned them the victory in their previous encounter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 It’ll be fascinating if we do make the final to see how BR rolls out the formation.... He won’t line up the same as we did in the league against them on our last showing... Hope it’s not 4231 as I doubt we’ll create enough but it’ll be interesting to see what he does if we make it to Wembley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 16 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: It’ll be fascinating if we do make the final to see how BR rolls out the formation.... He won’t line up the same as we did in the league against them on our last showing... Hope it’s not 4231 as I doubt we’ll create enough but it’ll be interesting to see what he does if we make it to Wembley. Let’s get there first but if we do, it’s a final - a one off game - it doesn’t matter if you Sh1t house a 1-0 in the 95th minute with 10% possession I would expect a v different approach to the etihaad but don’t forget we have them a week before the final at home .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 (edited) On 28/12/2019 at 08:58, An Sionnach said: Nuno Esprito never writes notes, if Rodgers gets too technical he will do his player's heads in and eventually disappear up his own arse. Playing an attacking line up against teams like Liverpool is stupid , we are not good enough . Playing a defensive line up is not pretty but sometimes you have to do it. It's his job to make that decision. What in the lord did i just read... Great tactics that, really benefits our possession based style. #overthemoon #thefuture Edited 8 January 2020 by Simoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest An Sionnach Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 17 minutes ago, Simoken said: What in the lord did i just read... Great tactics that, really benefits our possession based style. #overthemoon #thefuture "Sometimes" is the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 On 28/12/2019 at 10:00, Plastik Man said: He uses his dictaphone? Does he? Wow. I use my finger. #OldJokesHome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastik Man Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 3 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: Does he? Wow. I use my finger. #OldJokesHome That joke is so old i set it up last year! 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 32 minutes ago, Plastik Man said: That joke is so old i set it up last year! 😁 I now feel embarrassed that I wanted to make the same joke, but somebody got in first ☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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