Popular Post Scotch Posted 11 June 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 11 June 2020 1 hour ago, pmcla26 said: Exactly, probs the time when we gotta take advantage the most if anything Ferran Torres really jumps out from that list. Definately someone we should be looking at in a position that we undoubtedly need improvement. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LestaLad Posted 11 June 2020 Share Posted 11 June 2020 1 hour ago, Foxy_Bear said: Ferran Torres really jumps out from that list. Definately someone we should be looking at in a position that we undoubtedly need improvement. Pretty sure we’ve been linked before? That Ashley guy said it on here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 11 June 2020 Share Posted 11 June 2020 9 hours ago, Ric Flair said: I'd be astonished if the club idly sat back and let him and Congerton rip up the model that has got us to where we are. There's no doubt that Rodgers is very good at working with a squad of talented young players and that's what he inherited. Rudkin for all the shit I've slung his way over the years, has bought in to the plan of buying young talented players and I just can't see him and the execs and board agreeing to change that tact when it's already got us to the cusp on the top 4 again. It's a tough one tbh, Rodgers is hell bent on complete control at a football club so if he doesn't get his way in that regard he may well throw his toys out the pram similar to what happened at us the summer before he left. He had a point that summer tbh because the club made a mess of his number 1 targets in McGinn, Piccini and Schar however the way Rodgers went about the aftermath and all the China stuff was not good and doesn't paint him in a good light. There's a danger Rodgers at times believes his own hype and considers himself bigger than the club. That's not with any bitterness it's just an honest assessment of how he behaved that summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 11 June 2020 Share Posted 11 June 2020 9 hours ago, Heymister2015 said: How can you as a scout be so bad at your job and end up at top level football clubs time after time! We could be put in trouble by congerton! Fans could do a better job free of charge. Demirel/Bailey job done Because Rodgers is his meal ticket these days. Only places he's been since the disaster that was Sunderland is Celtic and Leicester and each time it was hanging onto Rodgers coat tails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 11 June 2020 Share Posted 11 June 2020 People are being pretty dense regarding Lee Congerton, they hate him but love Rodgers which is a bit of a contradiction. Because Congerton is 100% Rodgers man and is basically in post to give Brendon complete control of transfers. Do people think Congerton is some maverick in a dark room somewhere trying to sign rubbish players for big money? Congerton wouldn't be able to order a cup of coffee without Rodgers agreeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 11 June 2020 Share Posted 11 June 2020 31 minutes ago, LestaLad said: Pretty sure we’ve been linked before? That Ashley guy said it on here Well, I think we were linked with him before Ashley got information about "a guy from Valencia" and we all made an assumption. It obviously didn't work out for whatever reason but yes, you're right, there was some sort of link before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 11 June 2020 Share Posted 11 June 2020 I seem to remember plenty of Congerton slanging before we’d even kicked a ball when Rogers joined by Leicester fans who didn’t even know who he was. Then they zipped it pretty sharpish throughout the season. Lets not go back to slanging a guy who’s been part of a very strong and well-oiled club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 13 hours ago, pmcla26 said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/detailsuche/spielerdetail/suche/21814823 Players with contracts up in 2021, take your pick I really think we could sign Telles, if PSG aren't interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 12 June 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 12 June 2020 10 hours ago, henrik_62 said: It's a tough one tbh, Rodgers is hell bent on complete control at a football club so if he doesn't get his way in that regard he may well throw his toys out the pram similar to what happened at us the summer before he left. He had a point that summer tbh because the club made a mess of his number 1 targets in McGinn, Piccini and Schar however the way Rodgers went about the aftermath and all the China stuff was not good and doesn't paint him in a good light. There's a danger Rodgers at times believes his own hype and considers himself bigger than the club. That's not with any bitterness it's just an honest assessment of how he behaved that summer. It will be fascinating to see how this plays out, I am a huge fan of what Rodgers does with the coaching and managing side of things but if we bend over and let him start bringing in older domestic based players, some of whom have even been a failure at the recent clubs and pay inflated prices that you often have to from recruiting from England then it's likely to turn very nasty. We as a club have made mistakes after quick success, which is understandable but we've seemingly learnt and improved which is largely down to the owners, the directors and execs and none more so than Jon Rudkin. However inexperienced he might have been for the DOF role when he got it, there has been a plan put in place post the disaster of 2016/17 where the model in which we operate as a club is to buy highly progressive young players with the odd experienced bargain and grow the team. It's working, we have once again developed in to the best of the rest and potentially better in the short term than some of the elite clubs. This has been done by adding the final touches to the operation which is to bring in an exceptional coach to blend it all together. But that is what he is, someone with the ability to get talented players to buy in to his methods and improve them both young and old which is very impressive. He should just let the current set up we have continue, have an input in targets but if they deviate too much from what's got us to the squad we have right now then i'm afraid he has to accept the powers above and believe in the process, like he expects the players he has control over to do the same for him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 Not going to pretend I’ve ever seen him play but Pervis Estupiñán looks very solid (if not a bit underwhelming going forwards) as potential Chilwell replacement. 22 year old Ecuadorean LB at Osasuna. http://organizedchaos.herokuapp.com/stats/298694 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtmcfly Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Stadt said: Not going to pretend I’ve ever seen him play but Pervis Estupiñán looks very solid (if not a bit underwhelming going forwards) as potential Chilwell replacement. 22 year old Ecuadorean LB at Osasuna. http://organizedchaos.herokuapp.com/stats/298694 A first name that's combination of 'pervert' and 'penis'? A last name that looks like and advert for a hairdresser's? It's a maybe from me. Anyway... Edited 12 June 2020 by turtmcfly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 8 minutes ago, Stadt said: Not going to pretend I’ve ever seen him play but Pervis Estupiñán looks very solid (if not a bit underwhelming going forwards) as potential Chilwell replacement. 22 year old Ecuadorean LB at Osasuna. http://organizedchaos.herokuapp.com/stats/298694 Would prefer someone really good defensively and a bit meh offensively if we couldn't get a fullback that could do both at at least a 7/10 level, if that makes any sense. If we had to sign a primarily attacking fullback I'd want better centrebacks so we can potentially go three at the back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtmcfly Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 45 minutes ago, Stadt said: Not going to pretend I’ve ever seen him play but Pervis Estupiñán looks very solid (if not a bit underwhelming going forwards) as potential Chilwell replacement. 22 year old Ecuadorean LB at Osasuna. http://organizedchaos.herokuapp.com/stats/298694 Interesting crossing technique at 1:20 and 1:38. Reminds me of someone but I can't think who... He's a Watford player, right? His recent transfer history looks like some kind of bank scam https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pervis-estupinan/profil/spieler/349599, but I admire the specificity of his market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 17 minutes ago, turtmcfly said: Interesting crossing technique at 1:20 and 1:38. Reminds me of someone but I can't think who... He's a Watford player, right? His recent transfer history looks like some kind of bank scam https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pervis-estupinan/profil/spieler/349599, but I admire the specificity of his market value. Tbh I was just looking at La Liga leftbacks on WhoScored and then looking at their radars on that site I linked. I’d never heard of him until today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 17 hours ago, TJB-fox said: I seem to remember plenty of Congerton slanging before we’d even kicked a ball when Rogers joined by Leicester fans who didn’t even know who he was. Then they zipped it pretty sharpish throughout the season. Lets not go back to slanging a guy who’s been part of a very strong and well-oiled club. ...he hasn't had too much impact on the squad with perhaps Perez the only one you could consider as his player. The fact that Perez is so divisive on this forum explains a great deal as to the quality of Congertons' acquisitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtmcfly Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 24 minutes ago, Stadt said: Tbh I was just looking at La Liga leftbacks on WhoScored and then looking at their radars on that site I linked. I’d never heard of him until today Ah, right! Well it's a name you could forget, but not a name you could forget you've forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 3 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...he hasn't had too much impact on the squad with perhaps Perez the only one you could consider as his player. The fact that Perez is so divisive on this forum explains a great deal as to the quality of Congertons' acquisitions. Bleedin hell talk about clutching at straws. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Leeds Fox Posted 13 June 2020 Share Posted 13 June 2020 Watched the two sporting games since the resumption and impressed with their young cb Eduardo quaresma, his first two professional games but very composed, quick and good on the ball. If we cant shift slimani or Silva, I'm sure sporting wouldn't mind having one of them back and could be an option to swap if we need to offload the wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Leeds Fox Posted 14 June 2020 Share Posted 14 June 2020 Kouassi and Aouchiche both leaving psg for nothing despite being their best young players. They have let some unbelievable talent go and both would improve our squad. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 14 June 2020 Share Posted 14 June 2020 Thomas Meunier being released by PSG. If he'd settle for a lower wage he'd be a decent signing. Experienced RB who'd bring something to the squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 14 June 2020 Share Posted 14 June 2020 Jesus PSG are risking it all - releasing two massive youth prospects; a very decent right back, top striker and outstanding centreback, sign them all! 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 14 June 2020 Share Posted 14 June 2020 PSG are like Man City, their reputation as being a coont for bringing youth through means a lot of their youngsters will mug them off surprisingly. We should be all over them pair. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 14 June 2020 Share Posted 14 June 2020 2 hours ago, lcfc sheff said: Jesus PSG are risking it all - releasing two massive youth prospects; a very decent right back, top striker and outstanding centreback, sign them all! 😂 French international LB in Kurzawa too... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 14 June 2020 Share Posted 14 June 2020 On 12/06/2020 at 09:30, Ric Flair said: It will be fascinating to see how this plays out, I am a huge fan of what Rodgers does with the coaching and managing side of things but if we bend over and let him start bringing in older domestic based players, some of whom have even been a failure at the recent clubs and pay inflated prices that you often have to from recruiting from England then it's likely to turn very nasty. We as a club have made mistakes after quick success, which is understandable but we've seemingly learnt and improved which is largely down to the owners, the directors and execs and none more so than Jon Rudkin. However inexperienced he might have been for the DOF role when he got it, there has been a plan put in place post the disaster of 2016/17 where the model in which we operate as a club is to buy highly progressive young players with the odd experienced bargain and grow the team. It's working, we have once again developed in to the best of the rest and potentially better in the short term than some of the elite clubs. This has been done by adding the final touches to the operation which is to bring in an exceptional coach to blend it all together. But that is what he is, someone with the ability to get talented players to buy in to his methods and improve them both young and old which is very impressive. He should just let the current set up we have continue, have an input in targets but if they deviate too much from what's got us to the squad we have right now then i'm afraid he has to accept the powers above and believe in the process, like he expects the players he has control over to do the same for him. Yeah spot on, completely agree, that is the perfect recipe for success imo, a clever and strong recruitment structure that has already proven to work and a top coach to then develop the players identified. Nothing is broken so why fix it, problem is despite how great a coach he is Rodgers has an ego that may get in the way in terms of transfers and getting his own way. I do think he'll be shackled more at Leicester though, a large part of the problem in Scotland was he was obviously a massive fish in a small pond and he knew this and as such threw his toys out of the pram whenever he didn't get his own way. I don't think he'll be this to the saem extent at Leicester as if he does the same and things turn sour and he walks out or gets sacked other decent clubs in the EPL may think twice about hiring him. All that aside recruitment and coaching co-existing as two separate entities is the way forward now, this is the way all the top clubs are working now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 14 June 2020 Share Posted 14 June 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: PSG are like Man City, their reputation as being a coont for bringing youth through means a lot of their youngsters will mug them off surprisingly. We should be all over them pair. Yeah that's exactly how we ended up getting Frimpong last summer. Well that and this long standing relationship we have with them. He was intent on leaving after they signed Cancelo and City convinced him if he left we'd be the be the best place for him to go. Word is they have a 30% sell on for him. He continues where he left off last season and he won't be in Scotland for long. Edited 14 June 2020 by henrik_62 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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