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Coronavirus Thread

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bovril

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2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

There aren't "pro lockdown" people. 

 

 

There are undoubtedly some people who are very much "pro lockdown" and don't want it to end.  

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Paninistickers

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2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

There aren't "pro lockdown" people. 

 

There are decent, conscientious people that want everyone to be safe and this to blow over as quickly as possible and there are selfish, entitled, wilfully thick people who lack the maturity to handle being told "no."

 

 

How do we define safe though? I've had a jab and was at zero risk of dying from covid. That's being fairly on the safe side of safe, I'd say. 

 

In fact  around maybe 99% of the 75% of the adult population who've had the jab were never going to die from this. Again, that's playing it safe to an extraordinary degree. 

 

 

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Mark 'expert' Lawrenson

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2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

There aren't "pro lockdown" people. 

 

There are decent, conscientious people that want everyone to be safe and this to blow over as quickly as possible and there are selfish, entitled, wilfully thick people who lack the maturity to handle being told "no."

 

 

Maybe “pro lockdown” isn’t the right way to put it but there are plenty of people quite comfortable with living under ongoing restrictions and in their own way quite selfish and not concerned about the less fortunate people who are struggling with the situation.

 

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yorkie1999

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1 hour ago, dsr-burnley said:

That's the point.  It's fairly prevalent nopwadays, as we found in the Brexit debate, for people to think that their opinion is the only valid one and that people who disagree are plain wrong.

 

So you believe that lockdown is the right way to go and opening up is the wrong way to go - that's fair comment.  People can disagree but they can't object to your belief.  But for you to believe that you are undoubtedly right and anyone who disagrees is selfish, entitled and thick - quite apart from the staggering degree of arrogance involved - that's objectionable.  You need to accept that other people have different opinions from you and it does not make them bad people.

You're quite correct, it does not make them bad people, they're still wrong though!

yorkie1999

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3 hours ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Listened to one of Boris's goons this morning, Jenrick, who claims that after looking at the data, the case rate in Portugal has doubled in the last 3 weeks.  This is a blatant lie.  If govt can't be straight with people in quoting real data correctly that was claimed would be used to guide the lifting of restrictions, we're in this never ending circle for a long, long time to come.  

It's  how they're cooking the books with the data. If there is 10,000 people in a town and 10 people have the virus one day and then the next day another 7 people test positive, that is a 70% increase, which sounds an awful lot when you add it to a sentence like, there has been a 70% increase in the virus in a town with a population of 10000. Or, in Brazil, with a population of 211 million,  6 people have it one day and 13 the next shows the case rate has more than doubled.

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Otis

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1 hour ago, bovril said:

There are undoubtedly some people who are very much "pro lockdown" and don't want it to end.  

Many of these people are being paid to sit at home. No wonder they want it to continue. 

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bovril

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Just now, Otis said:

Many of these people are being paid to sit at home. No wonder they want it to continue. 

I don't know what it is really. A like of being told what to do perhaps. 

 

I just know there are lots of people 'dreading' lockdown ending. 

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Otis

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3 minutes ago, bovril said:

I don't know what it is really. A like of being told what to do perhaps. 

 

I just know there are lots of people 'dreading' lockdown ending. 

The thing is, if it was purely down to not meeting in large groups or wearing masks or not going to night clubs etc. There is nothing to stop them doing this anyway. 

OrielCaziado

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I know quite a few people who are quite content with the present situation and the restrictions involved. What gets my goat up is when they say to me there’s not really a lockdown ! A saying I’ve become accustomed to being said by people who aren’t affected by the restrictions and who’s daily life hasn’t changed.  

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Guest Col city fan

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52 minutes ago, Otis said:

Many of these people are being paid to sit at home. No wonder they want it to continue. 

I think there’s both sides going on. I know people who are (genuinely) still fearful of being ‘too social’ (for want of a better term). They ‘are playing it safe’ and not getting engaged in social activities involving larger groups 

Then, there are definitely those who have found lock-down to be advantageous. Working from home, less traffic on the roads etc etc. Finally, for those who choose ordinarily to ‘socially isolate’ (or feel they have to), I guess it’s almost given them authority to do so even more.

Personally I’m of the mind it’s here to stay and we now have to get about our business and manage it as best we can. People need to get vaccinated, use their masks as appropriate and try to live as normally as possible whilst abiding by ‘the rules’ which I sincerely hope will be relaxed the longer we go on

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Nalis

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10 minutes ago, OrielCaziado said:

I know quite a few people who are quite content with the present situation and the restrictions involved. What gets my goat up is when they say to me there’s not really a lockdown ! A saying I’ve become accustomed to being said by people who aren’t affected by the restrictions and who’s daily life hasn’t changed.  

I think what they mean is that the past covid lockdowns are not like you are under pseudo house arrest. Though saying that, the way the 'we're not in lockdown' brigade throw it around makes them wrongly, but heavily, imply there are fvck all restrictions when in reality there are so many things we can't even do now let alone back in Feb.

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OrielCaziado

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22 minutes ago, Nalis said:

I think what they mean is that the past covid lockdowns are not like you are under pseudo house arrest. Though saying that, the way the 'we're not in lockdown' brigade throw it around makes them wrongly, but heavily, imply there are fvck all restrictions when in reality there are so many things we can't even do now let alone back in Feb.

Even a lot of the things we can do at the moment is hard work.  Going to the rugby or football isn’t the same.  Going to pubs is all table service and a lot need booking in advance, resulting in me last week refusing to try other venues in town after I got a good pitch in our first stop. Flying abroad is obviously a nightmare with tests etc as well, even if going to a green listed place like Ireland. They may seem small things to many but I personally struggle with them in that it makes going anywhere hard work. 

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Houdini Logic

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Maybe the decision to pull Portugal from the green list was a request from the US, who want to minimise the risk to a potential US/UK corridor.

 

I basically want to go on holiday to America and this fits the narrative so yeah... completely true and not wild speculation at all

VLC86

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1 hour ago, Otis said:

Many of these people are being paid to sit at home. No wonder they want it to continue. 

I know someone who  ‘never wants it to end’. Not sure he ever leaves Leicester.

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Paninistickers

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49 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

I know someone who  ‘never wants it to end’. Not sure he ever leaves Leicester.

Lockdown can ignite odd emotions. 

 

I'm as 'anti' as they come, but secretly (and not a nice trait of mine) there have been times when things have been shite the consolation is everyone else is having a shit time.too. No feelings of FOMO that (rather pathetically) I suffer from ordinarily. 

 

So I wonder if lockdown enthusiasts.are just people who,.frankly,.are miserable 

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1 hour ago, Super_horns said:
Cannot see June 21st happening if these figures are right and hold up unfortunately.

June 21st probably won’t happen anyway if yesterday’s travel announcement is anything to go by but they need to be looking at the death and hospitalisation figures and they haven’t risen.

Too much obsessing over positive cases.

Dunge

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2 minutes ago, Corky said:

How nice that a minster doesn't need to self-isolate and will be part of a pilot scheme after going on his lovely trip.

I don’t fancy the virus’s chances against Michael Gove regardless.

bovril

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9 minutes ago, Lcfc82 said:

June 21st probably won’t happen anyway if yesterday’s travel announcement is anything to go by but they need to be looking at the death and hospitalisation figures and they haven’t risen.

 

I am pretty confident in our current position but it's been said a gazillion times hospitalisation numbers lag behind cases. 

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