shailen Posted 14 July 2020 Posted 14 July 2020 Does anyone know what happens if Wolves or Man Utd win the Europa league and finish outside the top 4? Would that mean 4th place would be a Europa league spot or would it be 5 teams from England that get CL?
st albans fox Posted 14 July 2020 Posted 14 July 2020 13 minutes ago, shailen said: Does anyone know what happens if Wolves or Man Utd win the Europa league and finish outside the top 4? Would that mean 4th place would be a Europa league spot or would it be 5 teams from England that get CL? Would, be five teams IF the winners of the CL and Europa league are from outside the top four then fourth place would miss out one country can only have five teams max and a team cannot qualify outside top four unless it wins Europa or CL (unless a Man City situation without CAS pay off)
Nalis Posted 14 July 2020 Posted 14 July 2020 The remaining fixtures for the run in, the matches we would have an interest in (ie, teams who can realistically catch us) are in bold. Tuesday 14 July Chelsea v Norwich City 8:15pm – SKY Wednesday 15 July Burnley v Wolves 6pm – BBC (free-to-air) Man City v AFC Bournemouth 6pm – SKY/Pick (free-to-air) Newcastle United v Spurs 6pm – BT Arsenal v Liverpool 8:15pm – SKY Thursday 16 July Everton v Aston Villa 6pm – SKY Leicester City v Sheff Utd 6pm – SKY/Pick (free-to-air) Crystal Palace v Man Utd 8:15pm – BT Southampton v Brighton 8:15pm – BT Friday 17 July West Ham v Watford 8pm – SKY Saturday 18 July Norwich City v Burnley 5:30pm – SKY/Pick (free-to-air) Sunday 19 July Bournemouth v Southampton 2pm – BT Spurs v Leicester City 4pm – SKY Monday 20 July Brighton v Newcastle United 6pm – SKY/Pick (free-to-air) Sheff Utd v Everton 6pm – Amazon Prime (free-to-air) Wolves v Crystal Palace 8:15pm – BT Tuesday 21 July Watford v Man City 6pm – SKY Aston Villa v Arsenal 8:15pm – SKY Wednesday 22 July Man Utd v West Ham 6pm – SKY Liverpool v Chelsea 8:15pm – SKY Sunday, July 26 Arsenal v Watford Burnley v Brighton Chelsea v Wolves Crystal Palace v Spurs Everton v AFC Bournemouth Leicester City v Man Utd Man City v Norwich City Newcastle United v Liverpool Southampton v Sheffield United West Ham v Aston Villa
Alf Bentley Posted 14 July 2020 Author Posted 14 July 2020 1 hour ago, shailen said: Does anyone know what happens if Wolves or Man Utd win the Europa league and finish outside the top 4? Would that mean 4th place would be a Europa league spot or would it be 5 teams from England that get CL? Yep, as per your edit, England would have 5 clubs in the CL under that scenario. But we'd only have 2 in the Europa League (no more than 7 European qualifiers in total seems to be a fixed rule): presumably next highest in PL & FAC winners (or 2 qualifiers via PL if FAC winner qualifies for CL). The only circumstances in which 4th place could become a Europa League spot would be in the highly unlikely event that, as well as Wolves/Man Utd winning EL and finishing outside top 4, Chelsea win this year's CL and also finish outside top 4. As Chelsea lost their home leg 0-3 v. Bayern, that ain't gonna happen.
shailen Posted 14 July 2020 Posted 14 July 2020 7 hours ago, Alf Bentley said: Yep, as per your edit, England would have 5 clubs in the CL under that scenario. But we'd only have 2 in the Europa League (no more than 7 European qualifiers in total seems to be a fixed rule): presumably next highest in PL & FAC winners (or 2 qualifiers via PL if FAC winner qualifies for CL). The only circumstances in which 4th place could become a Europa League spot would be in the highly unlikely event that, as well as Wolves/Man Utd winning EL and finishing outside top 4, Chelsea win this year's CL and also finish outside top 4. As Chelsea lost their home leg 0-3 v. Bayern, that ain't gonna happen. It would just be our luck that we'd finish fourth and somehow Chelsea overturn the deficit and win the CL 😂. So crux is finish fourth or above and we are in the champions league. Just need to equal or better United's results from here on.
Swiss_tony Posted 14 July 2020 Posted 14 July 2020 20 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Nothing to stop people traveling even if they can't go to the ground. Plenty did that last time. There may be a ban on travel from places with high CV19 numbers. Last time there was no CV19.
LestaAl Posted 14 July 2020 Posted 14 July 2020 Difficult to see us bettering United’s results from here on . I think we have lost the CL☹️
Swiss_tony Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 It's the hope that kills you. Every match left for us is a 6 pointer against another team trying to get into a euro spot.
KrefelderFox666 Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 We can guarantee 5th place with a win tomorrow. Which obviously means we won't win.
Aus Fox Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 21 hours ago, LestaAl said: Difficult to see us bettering United’s results from here on . I think we have lost the CL☹️ We potentially only need 4 points from here. If we beat Spurs and draw with Sheff Utd and Chelsea lose to Liverpool and Wolves we’re in.
Langley Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 Surely that's some sort of European qualification done now?
jamfox Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 6 minutes ago, Langley said: Surely that's some sort of European qualification done now? You would hope so , but all 3 if our games are against potential rivals chasing the same dream. And worse then that while we have list our way they are all looking good. You can't over play how massive sheff united tomorrow is. I think if we can bank 5th , then we will have a better chance against spuds and man united.
teblin Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 Win tomorrow pretty much means we will finish 5th at least doesn’t it?
Aus Fox Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 6 minutes ago, Langley said: Surely that's some sort of European qualification done now? Not quite, Beating Sheff Utd or a draw against Spurs assuming Arsenal don’t win The FA Cup would make sure of a European spot.
Aus Fox Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 1 minute ago, teblin said: Win tomorrow pretty much means we will finish 5th at least doesn’t it? A win tomorrow and we’re certain of 5th. It would also mean at the very least we’d go into the last game of the season with CL football in our hands.
jamfox Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 1 minute ago, teblin said: Win tomorrow pretty much means we will finish 5th at least doesn’t it? Yep , it's the biggest game since when we won it. Then potentially we have man united game that could then upgrade us to the champions League No pressure then
jeffschlupp Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 The fixtures sort of go against us. We need Spurs and Sheff Utd to keep up the pressure on Wolves so they have something to play for on the final day, but we play Spurs and Sheff Utd!
Swiss_tony Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 If we win tomorrow we are guaranteed 5th. an 18+ goal difference is like an extra point over wolves.
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 13 minutes ago, jeffschlupp said: The fixtures sort of go against us. We need Spurs and Sheff Utd to keep up the pressure on Wolves so they have something to play for on the final day, but we play Spurs and Sheff Utd! Which is why it was important wolves didn’t win this evening. ....
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 Just occurred to me that we could have done with yanited winning on Monday so they may not have needed a result at our place - with chelsea likely to be 1 or 2 points behind them heading into the final game they will have to go for a win against us
Foxxed Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 I would have given my left eye to narrowly miss out on the champions league places in 2014
smudger63 Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 Tomorrow is massive for us, win and we are guaranteed 5th and automatic Europa League Group qualification, and still with a chance of Champions League going into the Man Utd game, lose or even draw, and there is a very real chance we may finish 8th and miss out on europe altogether.
shailen Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 49 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: A win tomorrow and we’re certain of 5th. It would also mean at the very least we’d go into the last game of the season with CL football in our hands. I've never thought of it like thay actually but if we beat united on the final day, then we actually only have to win 1 of the games against Sheff Utd and Spurs, barring a huge reversal in goal difference, to guarantee CL. What a crazy season and how can we still afford to lose a game and still have CL football in our own hands.
Ricey Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: Just occurred to me that we could have done with yanited winning on Monday so they may not have needed a result at our place - with chelsea likely to be 1 or 2 points behind them heading into the final game they will have to go for a win against us If ourselves and Man Utd both win our next two and Chelsea lose to Liverpool then we'll both go into the final match 2 points ahead of Chelsea with a far superior goal difference, meaning a point will see us both qualify.
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2020 Posted 15 July 2020 4 minutes ago, Ricey said: If ourselves and Man Utd both win our next two and Chelsea lose to Liverpool then we'll both go into the final match 2 points ahead of Chelsea with a far superior goal difference, meaning a point will see us both qualify. Can you see the flaw in your thinking ......... would be a brilliant scenario though ..... west Germany v Austria from the king power ......
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