volpeazzurro Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 11 hours ago, dannythefox said: Absolute piss take if loves the club that much let’s do a deal where he’ll actually leave us with a decent amount of money. Sign a new contact saying if a figure is met you leave, hate all the carry on he’ll end up going for 25m and another top club will benefit from our mistakes once again. Whilst I agree to some extent I don't quite see where the club made a mistake as a contract is signed by two parties a decision by both has to be made. Tielemans signed a reasonable contract for both parties ie period of time for x amount of wages. At the point of signing, he and his agent, believing in his capabilities, would also have had one eye on his future career which is absolutely the right thing to do. Why would he want a contract to remain with one team for too many years if he believed he could eventually do better? His initial contract was reasonable for both parties and both could have walked away at any time. Would you rather of us not having had him for the last few years?
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 Rice will either go to Chelsea or United, more likely united imo. Can't see youri at Chelsea or Liverpool. More likely Real Madrid or Bayern.
FoxesWalk Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 Youri has been linked with a move to Man City in Manchester Evening News this morning. Pep wants him apparently.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, tom27111 said: If we're talking Juventus and France Pogba, no. If we're talking Man Utd Pogba, 100% For me, I'd take him over France and Juventus Pogba. They are different players. Pogba is more physical and can carry the ball and score goals at his best, Youri is more technical and brilliant at moving teams forward quickly with one touch passing. I think Youri is more influential in this team than even a prime Pogba would be. Maybe it is time to take the blue tinted specs off haha! Edited 14 December 2021 by Arriba Los Zorros
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 2 hours ago, FoxesWalk said: Youri has been linked with a move to Man City in Manchester Evening News this morning. Pep wants him apparently. Back up to Gundogan presumably. He'd do brilliantly well at Man City, if they want him thats it!
Bryn Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 Not sure he goes there. Think he likes being the main event.
BKLFox Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 The 4 Sky Clubs seem to be wanting a high octane destroyer type player well that's the types i've seen them linked with recently but 1 manager that would use him in the correct way is Xavi. Barcelona are the utter pits atm & could see Xavi building a team around Youri & modelling him into a 'mini-me' which he would absolutely thrive in, sticking point would be cost
An Sionnach Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 32 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: Back up to Gundogan presumably. He'd do brilliantly well at Man City, if they want him thats it! Gundogan and KDB are now 30 so as an eventual successor it seems logical. However Grealish will soon be the main man there and Youri would have to accept that.
coolhandfox Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 Didn't act like a player in a rush to leave on Sunday. I still think this could go either way. If Southampton can get £25m-30m for Danny Ings with a history of suffering knee injuries and only a year left on his contract, I don't think we will struggle to get a decent fee for Youri. 4
Jimmy Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 35 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Didn't act like a player in a rush to leave on Sunday. I still think this could go either way. If Southampton can get £25m-30m for Danny Ings with a history of suffering knee injuries and only a year left on his contract, I don't think we will struggle to get a decent fee for Youri. English tax and a striker who go for more money 1
Torten Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 Man City probably buy him to stop anyone else getting him. They’re stacked in that position
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 12 minutes ago, Jimmy said: English tax and a striker who go for more money Youri has scored more goals than ings this season. We'd get at least 50m for him.
Ozwin Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 Give him captaincy, give him what he wants money wise and tell him he's spearheading the future of this club.
Grebfromgrebland Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 35 minutes ago, Ozwin said: Give him captaincy, give him what he wants money wise and tell him he's spearheading the future of this club. He'd need more than that. Make him assistant manager too.
Guest SO1 Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 5 hours ago, An Sionnach said: Gundogan and KDB are now 30 so as an eventual successor it seems logical. However Grealish will soon be the main man there and Youri would have to accept that. Nothing preordained about Grealish being the main man. Youri is twice the playmaker and has goals in him as well. Very different types of players with different strengths. Being better is all that matters and Youri wouldn't have to accept sxxt.
Guest SO1 Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 26 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: He'd need more than that. Make him assistant manager too. With the amount of time him and Rodgers already confer I would expect he's already claimed that title. Ownership share probably holds more sway.
An Sionnach Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SO1 said: Nothing preordained about Grealish being the main man. Youri is twice the playmaker and has goals in him as well. Very different types of players with different strengths. Being better is all that matters and Youri wouldn't have to accept sxxt. Youri is a very good player and in the main has done a good job for us. We musn't forget however that he has often been pretty poor as well. Although as I have said that is probably not all his fault. There is a hierarchy at Man.City and KDB, Gundogan ,Silva ,Grealish and maybe even Foden would be above him. That may not worry him because the opportunity to play with these players must be attractive to him. Anyway he still has a job to do for us for the rest of the season. Edited 14 December 2021 by An Sionnach
Popular Post coolhandfox Posted 14 December 2021 Popular Post Posted 14 December 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jimmy said: English tax and a striker who go for more money Do you really think Ing is worth more the Youri? Ings is 29 years old and has had two good recent seasons in the PL playing for a team that regularly battles against relegation and has 3 England caps. He has a history of severe knee injuries, which resulted in him missing two whole seasons. His suitors were mid-table PL teams. Youri is 24 years old and has been playing for a team fighting for the top 4 in the PL for the last two seasons and won the FA cup. Only two midfielders have matched his goals and assist record in the PL since he signed KDB and Fernandes. He is a regular for Belgium with 47 caps, has played at a WC and Euros for the number 1 rank team in the world. He is an elite-level player who will be on the shopping list of the top teams of Europe. English tax is only relevant to English teams due to squad rules PL and Europe. Edited 14 December 2021 by coolhandfox 6
Guest SO1 Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 2 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Youri is a very good player and in the main has done a good job for us. We musn't forget however that he has often been pretty poor as well. Although as I have said that is probably not all his fault. There is a hierarchy at Man.City and KDB, Gundogan ,Silva ,Grealish and maybe even Foden would be above him. That may not worry him because the opportunity to play with these players must be attractive to him. Anyway he still has a job to do for us for the rest of the season. I disagree with all of that. Have a hard time believing that if he produces he will not rise right to the top. I would think that a football team is a severe meritocracy. As in its the performance that matters not your name. Couldn't think of a worse thing for player morale. Its not a game to them.
LCFCCHRIS Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 (edited) How much can we realistically expect to get for him if he goes this Jan or summer ? (Without any new deal here) Edited 14 December 2021 by LCFCCHRIS
Koke Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 He has more league goals for us than Okazaki had, and in less games. And from a deeper position. 2
rachhere Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 I was completely resigned to him going, but I am not so sure after Sunday's match. He definitely wasn't playing or reacting like someone who has half an eye on the exit. 2
filbertway Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 7 minutes ago, Koke said: He has more league goals for us than Okazaki had, and in less games. And from a deeper position. Shinji rarely hit the back of the net even when he did score goals, scoring definitely wasn't his strong suit at the highest level
PhillippaT Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 12 minutes ago, Koke said: He has more league goals for us than Okazaki had, and in less games. And from a deeper position. No one quite bounces off their arse like Shinji did, though
An Sionnach Posted 14 December 2021 Posted 14 December 2021 1 hour ago, SO1 said: I disagree with all of that. Have a hard time believing that if he produces he will not rise right to the top. I would think that a football team is a severe meritocracy. As in its the performance that matters not your name. Couldn't think of a worse thing for player morale. Its not a game to them. I am pretty sure he would move up the ranking pretty quickly because Guardiola loves an intelligent player but of course there are lot of big fishes in Man City's pond.
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