Has Anyone Ever Had A Run-in With The Police?

[Guest seanfox778]

13 hours ago, Line-X said:

The entire procedure was farcical because everyone bar her, including some of the officers, and of course the arsehole that had been apprehended for robbing her shop, started sniggering. 

 

 

Edit: warning for swearing from the off 

Edited 30 January 2021 by seanfox778
Swearing warning

[rico]

13 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Something I mention so little in normal life, I largely forget it ever happened. 

 

I did 7 weeks in the clink when I was 18. Well, young offenders anyway. Parva. Which, as a quiet middle class, unremarkable lad was quite an experience. Character building stuff.

 

Offence was affray. A glorified pub brawl. Something probably most lads have in one way or another done in their late teens.  

 

Bravo to my solicitor. How he quite managed to get a first ever offence that usually ends up as a fine or, at worst,  community service into Parva was quite a feat. 

 

 

Oliver D’Sa the solicitor was notorious for getting people put away for 1st offences 😂

[Tielemans63]

Been caught speeding twice and very fortunately was let off twice. However, I was good mates with Ashley Charles growing up and I still can't believe he's inside for 14 years for murder. I literally can't get my head round it.

 

Nice lad who had a moment of madness, crazy to think of everything that's happened in my life since 2012 and he's been inside that whole time and still has 5 years to go. Obviously this rarely happens these days but when I use to go out in town, what happened with Ash would always be in the back of mind and so I'd always avoid any conflict whereas in the past I'd stand my ground. Ps I'm not condoning what he did or saying he didn't deserve the punishment, I'm saying that one stupid action can destroy numerous lives.

 

Two other lads I grew up with (brothers) managed to get themselves involved in an armed robbery too (5 and 8 years). Can't get my head round that either. Bizarre how normal lads end up getting involved in something like that. I find it quite sobering to think about it. 

[Paninistickers]

25 minutes ago, rico said:

Oliver D’Sa the solicitor was notorious for getting people put away for 1st offences 😂

Haha. Yeah. He was a shocker. He couldn't give a shit. And mainly defended those who also couldn't give a shit. 

 

 

[Guest worth_the_wait]

If you've spent near on 50 years following the City up and down the country, drinking far too much, going with gangs of lads in tranny vans, on service trains and football specials ... and you've never had a run in with the police ... then award yourself a medal 

[Jimothy]

11 minutes ago, Paddy. said:

Two other lads I grew up with (brothers) managed to get themselves involved in an armed robbery too (5 and 8 years). Can't get my head round that either. Bizarre how normal lads end up getting involved in something like that. I find it quite sobering to think about it. 

That's very young to be commiting armed robbery 

[Bellend Sebastian]

10 hours ago, Parafox said:

several years ago I was involved in a n ID parade when I worked with EMAS. I was on duty with a colleague and we were sent to an assault on Humberstone Gate. As we arrived we heard 2 gunshots. We stood by at a safe distance when a car pulled up alongside us. As I looked down at the passenger, he revealed a gun and then the car sped away. Eventually the police asked me to go to an identity parade in London. They took me there in a police van and I was asked to pick out the person I saw in the car. I'm still not sure if I got the right one as I never heard anything since.

"He revealed a gun" to a paramedic? These people are strange, aren't they? It's like when a little kid waved a massive knife at me when I was doing my paper round when I was about 13.  The idea is intimidating, but you just think "well there's the signpost of your imminent destiny"

[Paninistickers]

10 hours ago, Parafox said:

 

I've been to Glen Parva YOC a few times in my career, It was a very intimidating place. As is Welford road prison. I've few tales I could tell

Lol, yes I can vouch for being on the other side that HMYOI Glen Parva was an intimidating place back in the early 90s. 

 

Then yelps, whoops and hisses as you were arriving at your cell for the first time, caerying6your bed pack. Like something out of a film. 

 

I can laugh looking back as I managed to keep a low enough profile in my short stay to avoid a any aggro.  But it was pretty unpleasant at the time. Highest suicide rate in the UK.

 

The only bother I had was the resident bad lad on my floor at lunch on my first day. As we walked back up the stairs.in line he stopped, came down at me in the queue and nicked something off my food tray. I knew I couldn't let it go unchallenged (even tho I couldn't give a shit about the poxy yogurt or cake hed nicked).....so I asked him what I could have off his tray for a swap. He squared up to me telling and in complete fear I momentarily fainted and my head leaned into his, like when footballers give each other a soft headbut. 

 

He just thought I was squaring up to him and giving him a warning, and he backed off shouting abuse at me, hahaha. I think some kind of god thought i was due a hand that day 🤣🤣

[StanSP]

@Paddy I think you need new friends mate 

[Guest worth_the_wait]

12 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

My tip, from experience, for picking the guilty person out of a line up is to go for the person that is fidgeting, sweating profusely and looks really guilty. But they rarely got picked, for some reason

I got roped into a couple of id parades to make the numbers up.  It can be quite funny at times.  
 
One time, we'd been picked off the street at random and were in scruffy jeans, whilst the suspect turned up in his suit and tie!   The copper did in fairness tell the man to take his tie off and make himself look a bit scruffier.
 
One time the witness couldn't pick out the suspect, but reckoned she could tell his voice, and asked if we could all say something.   The copper in charge was thinking about what to ask us to say, and I just shouted out "Leicester City are the best team in the world".
 
The copper looked at me, thought about it for a few seconds, and then asked everyone to say in turn "Leicester City are going to get relegated this season".   So in turn, we all said that sentence out aloud.   Me and my big mouth.
 
Interesting the woman instantly picked out the correct suspect, as soon as he opened his mouth.
 
On another occasion, the police told us not to worry at all if you got picked out.    One lad got picked out twice by different winesses.   That made us all giggle.

 

[OrielCaziado]

44 minutes ago, rico said:

Oliver D’Sa the solicitor was notorious for getting people put away for 1st offences 😂

Slightly off topic but concerning solicitors. I dodged a bullet years ago pulling out of a lads weekend. Whilst there the lads got in a bit of a melee in a bar shall we say. All got arrested.  Out of the five lads I knew four of them had been spotless and were in their mid 20s and the first time anything like this had happened. The other lad was a classic rogue. A good lad but a trouble magnet. Anyway the solicitors tell the four all to plead guilty.  First time and all that. The other lad can’t risk it as he’s got a record and pleads not guilty.  Lol. The four of them pleading guilty all got 9 months and the rogue got off. Solicitors and their advice is over rated. 

[Mike Oxlong]

7 hours ago, Houdini Logic said:

 

Moral of the story - just try your hardest to satisfy their ego and grovel a bit, otherwise you'll end up waking up with not only a terrible hangover but also  some privet in your clothing 

My brother told me a story about one of his mates who got in more trouble for not doing this many years ago

 

His mate got pulled over for a minor speeding offence. The plod pulls up behind, swaggers over and raps on his drivers window. My brothers mate winds the window down, gives him a big smile and says “evening cvnt- - - stable”  .... 

 

 

Edited 30 January 2021 by Mike Oxlong

[foxfanazer]

21 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

That's very young to be commiting armed robbery 

Not in Braunstone its not

[RonnieTodger]

At the bottom of Beeches Park, they started building an extension to Thorpe Astley and I used to go down with a few mates. We’d usually just set up the builders polystyrene bags and jump onto them from the roofs.

One time a lad was putting all the windows through of a three story house and the police came. We all split off and I was hiding with one mate and there were unfixed doors balanced against a wall. Hid behind those and you could the officers footsteps as he entered the room, but he didn’t see us. As he left, we sprinted off. 
 

We went back again a few weeks later but nobody broke anything. Sure enough, the police were back and I got an earful from someone that had just bought one of the houses. 

[Bellend Sebastian]

1 hour ago, rico said:

Oliver D’Sa the solicitor was notorious for getting people put away for 1st offences 😂

Ha, yes, he was the guy that would take anybody on. The beat-up-your-missus-infront-of-hundreds-of-shocked-shoppers-after-24hr-cider-binge crowd

[Bellend Sebastian]

1 hour ago, worth_the_wait said:

I got roped into a couple of id parades to make the numbers up.  It can be quite funny at times.  
 
One time, we'd been picked off the street at random and were in scruffy jeans, whilst the suspect turned up in his suit and tie!   The copper did in fairness tell the man to take his tie off and make himself look a bit scruffier.
 
One time the witness couldn't pick out the suspect, but reckoned she could tell his voice, and asked if we could all say something.   The copper in charge was thinking about what to ask us to say, and I just shouted out "Leicester City are the best team in the world".
 
The copper looked at me, thought about it for a few seconds, and then asked everyone to say in turn "Leicester City are going to get relegated this season".   So in turn, we all said that sentence out aloud.   Me and my big mouth.
 
Interesting the woman instantly picked out the correct suspect, as soon as he opened his mouth.
 
On another occasion, the police told us not to worry at all if you got picked out.    One lad got picked out twice by different winesses.   That made us all giggle.

 

The thing I always found a bit odd about them is they'd put up a sign saying they needed blokes between 18-25, dark hair, 5'11" to 6'4" for the ID parade, and you'd get there and the suspect was 5' 7", fair haired and about 45.

 

It's almost as if the police were being a bit dodgy about it, and I'm not having that

[Guest worth_the_wait]

19 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

The thing I always found a bit odd about them is they'd put up a sign saying they needed blokes between 18-25, dark hair, 5'11" to 6'4" for the ID parade, and you'd get there and the suspect was 5' 7", fair haired and about 45.

 

Funny you say that.

 

On one of the parades, most of us volunteers were about the right height (6 foot-ish), short brown-ish hair colour etc.    

 

The last volunteer walked in ... I'm not kidding, he was 4 and a half feet tall, with long white spiky punk hair.    We just p*ssd ourselves laughing.  

 

I can't rememeber if the copper said, "oh just let him stand in the line" or "no, maybe not".   We were laughing too much.

 

 

[Parafox]

12 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Early-mid 70s..

Before my time there... 78-80

[VLC86]

3 hours ago, Unabomber said:

When I was a teenager there was a shut down car garage near my house that was boarded up. I was in to skateboarding and decided to try and prise off some wood to make a ramp. Didn’t get very far so just went home. Later on the police arrive as they thought I had been breaking in. My absolute narc of a neighbour had grassed me up. Still can’t believe it. 

Haha. When i was 17/18 we used to go onto a building site to have a smoke, was absolutely incredible when they put the doors and windows in..... until one day the police got called and found us in there .

 

I always drive past the house now and it makes me laugh.

[Tuna]

All mostly motoring related -  got done for driving when on the phone (unbelievably stupid), went on the awareness course instead of the points/fine/contest. 

 

Pulled over for, bizarrely, having reverse lights on when driving (it was a Renault Laguna, so no surprise there were some dodgy electrics). Another time for going over the kerb when turning a corner (think the cop thought I was pissed).

 

Stopped and spoken to a few times when out delivering/collecting catalogues, apparently looked suspicious (!) on one occasion and matched a description on another and again spoken to for parking to close to a junction.

 

Got put in the back of a police car and lectured after parking on the zig zags of a zebra crossing as well, that's when I learned what the white lines in the middle of the road at a junction were for!

 

[fuchsntf]

17 minutes ago, Parafox said:

Before my time there... 78-80

Thats when the big wide world started & Kicker &   opened up for me, then the first mumblings of remembering the good old days...

Also when my knee exploded & put paid to my Sporting aspirations...So The far turbulent corners of the Wild Open world became an appetizing challenge.

Women also...

Edited 30 January 2021 by fuchsntf

[Nalis]

Got stopped cycling on the pavement with no lights when I was about 14. They asked for my address and I told them, was very timid back then so naturally I shit myself for weeks.

[Alf Bentley]

17 hours ago, Webbo said:

I got pulled for a broken tail light. I was given 14 days to have it fixed and tested at an MOT station. I did that but forgot to post the proof. I ended up in court but only got a small fine. so I have got a criminal record, it was over 30 years ago, so I don't know if it still counts.

 

I only found out recently that you can request all info about you on the Police National Computer free of charge: https://www.acro.police.uk/Subject-access

You have to pay if you want a certificate - or for standard criminal record checks. That info might clarify your ancient record without any cost?

 

I'm awaiting a reply to my info request now, as I'm planning a trip to the USA in the next couple of years - and the US insists you have to apply for a visa if you have a criminal record (even includes arrests that haven't led to convictions).

I'm sure a lot of people with minor criminal records just roll up, lie about having no record and get into the US without any problem.....but it could be a costly risk to take if they do check the UK police computer.

 

Like you, my criminal career was all 30-40 years ago - and all booze-related. The oddity is that I was arrested drunk on 7 occasions, but was never charged or cautioned for drunkenness.

Night in cells to sleep it off 3 times, let off once, bound over for Breach of Peace once, conditional discharge for Criminal Damage once & police caution for Common Assault once........I was as "habitual a criminal" as Norman Stanley Fletcher! 

I could have disputed that Common Assault caution as the other bloke laid hands on me first, but I took the rap as, once I sobered up, I knew that it was my drunken idiocy that had caused the ridiculous fracas...

 

Anyone with a criminal record travelled to the USA with or without a visa? If so, how did you handle it and did it work out OK? 

 

 

[Buce]

20 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

 

I only found out recently that you can request all info about you on the Police National Computer free of charge: https://www.acro.police.uk/Subject-access

You have to pay if you want a certificate - or for standard criminal record checks. That info might clarify your ancient record without any cost?

 

I'm awaiting a reply to my info request now, as I'm planning a trip to the USA in the next couple of years - and the US insists you have to apply for a visa if you have a criminal record (even includes arrests that haven't led to convictions).

I'm sure a lot of people with minor criminal records just roll up, lie about having no record and get into the US without any problem.....but it could be a costly risk to take if they do check the UK police computer.

 

Like you, my criminal career was all 30-40 years ago - and all booze-related. The oddity is that I was arrested drunk on 7 occasions, but was never charged or cautioned for drunkenness.

Night in cells to sleep it off 3 times, let off once, bound over for Breach of Peace once, conditional discharge for Criminal Damage once & police caution for Common Assault once........I was as "habitual a criminal" as Norman Stanley Fletcher! 

I could have disputed that Common Assault caution as the other bloke laid hands on me first, but I took the rap as, once I sobered up, I knew that it was my drunken idiocy that had caused the ridiculous fracas...

 

Anyone with a criminal record travelled to the USA with or without a visa? If so, how did you handle it and did it work out OK? 

 

 

 

The US Immigration don't have access to the UK PNC, but they do require a certificate from the UK police detailing all criminal convictions and an interview for a visa longer than 90 days. A 90 day visa can be had online in minutes, and although it does ask the question, there is no way they can check the veracity of your answer. They do not recognise the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act, though interestingly, Canada does.

 

They used to have something which they referred to as 'moral terpitude' when deciding which crimes were acceptable or not, but I think that's no longer true.

Edited 30 January 2021 by Buce

[UpTheLeagueFox]

3 hours ago, rico said:

Oliver D’Sa the solicitor was notorious for getting people put away for 1st offences 😂

3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Haha. Yeah. He was a shocker. He couldn't give a shit. And mainly defended those who also couldn't give a shit. 

Now there's a blast from the past!! Used to deal with Oliver a lot when I was about 18 and reporting daily from magistrates court. He would hammer his clients and often threw up a nice quote which would make the Mercury.

 

3 hours ago, Paddy. said:

I was good mates with Ashley Charles growing up and I still can't believe he's inside for 14 years for murder.

Googled the story. Seemed more like manslaughter than murder. Moment of madness as you said.

 

Bloke I knew loosely, not a bad lad or anything, got into a toxic relationship. Both did some drugs, things got out of hand one night on the gear, they attacked each other, she was killed. He got arrested for murder, the papers made out she was some sweet, blonde innocent and the pics of him were the grim ones etc. Didn't get to trial because he decided to hang himself on remand. No winners in that whatsoever, very sad.