Set pieces

[kiwiturk]

Is it time to discuss about set pieces yet??? Our records is pretty awful on this.

I vote for a rotation amongst the players.

Madders, Youri, Cengiz and even Barnsy.

Serious thoughts and feedbacks please!!!!

 

Edited 30 January 2021 by kiwiturk

[Tom12345]

Albrighton, Thomas, Fuchs. When they play obviously.

 

But yes I like your list - Barnes in particular I think is a good. I almost want to take Madders out because he has taken his fair share for the next five years already.

[jayfox26]

There are already several threads about this. 

[kiwiturk]

Apologizes mate. Deleting it immediately.

[kiwiturk]

4 minutes ago, kiwiturk said:

Apologizes mate. Deleting it immediately.

Sorry mate . It seems that I can't do anything about it but more we talk about it the more diverse thoughts may appear. Who knows?

This is a fans forum afterall.

Edited 30 January 2021 by kiwiturk

[Vardinio'sCat]

Wilf is the difference between us being not very good at set pieces, and being pretty awful, imo.

 

As Leeds are very mobile we might get away with it this time (as we did at Everton, just). Ultimately, we are a running side, and big sides will struggle to cope with our movement, but we are living on the edge with such an obvious weakness.

 

Thank god every side doesn't have a traditional big man to play up front any more.

 

 

[Vardinio'sCat]

S**t, I should have read the OP more carefully, I'm talking about defending.

 

I'll get my coat....

[Gerard]

I actually take comfort in our appalling record of set pieces both offensively and defensively. If we start performing just averagely in the second half of the season we'll score more goals and concede less. It should be one of the easier problems to solve.

 

I think it's probably bad variance rather than a lack of tactics or ability. We have a good set piece and corner taker in Maddison and we have some height and aerial strength in the team also. I don't think it's an area we should excel or neither suffer in. A bit of mean reversion could have us flying in the second half of the season.

[jmono84]

It’s simply a numbers game we only have 3 players who are any good at winning headers, 2 CB’s and Wilf so only 2 currently. Only Fofana is dominant in the air, Evans and Soyuncu are great defenders but rarely win headers from attacking corners.

 

All of our others players (except maybe Vardy who is decent considering his height) never threaten from set pieces. Go short every time for me.

Edited 30 January 2021 by jmono84

[Nicolo Barella]

Chelsea last season were dreadful at set pieces, they hired a new coach and this season they are much better. Think we should take a leaf out of their book.

[Gubbins]

I think at this point its actually rather pointless having more than 2 of our players in the opposition box at corners unless we are going short. We'd be better served having most of the players just outside ready to pounce on the inevitable clearance.

[adamkhalifa]

I am not a Madders hater. But, we do need to try someone else. Everytime, he ambles towards the corner flag. It's time to grab a Kit Kat. As nothing is going to happen anyway. 

 

It's statistically obvious that corners are not working. Why not just try another variable. Keep him just outside the box maybe. 

[lcfc_forever]

 

[st albans fox]

my assumption is that we spend time on the training pitch on other things 

 

Maybe defensive set pieces rather than attacking ones 

 

it was clear at Everton that we decided no point in putting corners directly into the box 

 

suspect tomorrow will be different 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

2 hours ago, jmono84 said:

It’s simply a numbers game we only have 3 players who are any good at winning headers, 2 CB’s and Wilf so only 2 currently. Only Fofana is dominant in the air, Evans and Soyuncu are great defenders but rarely win headers from attacking corners.

 

All of our others players (except maybe Vardy who is decent considering his height) never threaten from set pieces. Go short every time for me.

It doesn’t matter about our team not having good headers of the ball if we never beat the first man! 

[Collymore]

7 hours ago, Gerard said:

actually take comfort in our appalling record of set pieces both offensively and defensively. If we start performing just averagely in the second half of the season we'll score more goals and concede less. It should be one of the easier problems to solve.

That's a really good way of looking at it. 

[Mark]

As always with free kicks and corners they more often than not end up at Kasper within seconds but this time in the net, please can someone make the decision to stop Maddison taking them all

[Corky]

The last one was terrible but the one before should've led to a goal from Evans.

 

We need to be better at them.

[Guest ttfn]

Enough’s enough.

 

PLEASE take Maddison off our set pieces.

 

Not only are we incapable of defending the opposition’s or scoring from our own, the delivery is now so poor that it’s facilitating counter-attacking opportunities for the opposition. 
 

He takes every single one. Back in the title winning season we had Mahrez, Fuchs and Albrighton alternating. None of them were brilliant at them but it kept the opposition guessing. Chilwell for all his faults was at least a different option last season.

 

There won’t be many sides in the top flight who have 95%+ of their set pieces being taken by the same person. It doesn’t work even if the delivery is consistently good because it’s predictable but Maddison puts in one good ball in 10. This is such a basic thing to put right.

[Fox92]

Maddison pointing telling players where to go and then can’t beat the first Man. Shit. 

Edited 31 January 2021 by Fox92

[Leicester_Loyal]

The delivery is quite often poor, but even when it's good we manage to mess it up or miss an easy chance. Our CBs get about 1 goal each a season, it isn't good enough.

 

Why doesn't someone else take some to mix it up a bit? Fuchs, Albrighton and Tielemans are all more than good enough to take them.

[TMELcfc]

It’s just Maddison, he’s awful 

[HankMarvin]

Shock horror from a player that can’t hit a corner and yet again can’t beat the first man defending 

Edited 31 January 2021 by HankMarvin

[Shane]

Think we potentially have 3 players who would be better at set pieces in Under, Albrighton & Tielemans.

 

Although he’s not going to start anytime soon, I think Luke Thomas could be developed into a good set piece taker too. We know he’s got a great delivery. 

[sdb]

I reckon we concede from our own set pieces more than we score from them. It's astounding.