davieG Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 https://www.footballinsider247.com/chelsea-knocked-back-late-leicester-city-move-for-gilmour/ Sources: Leicester City failed in late-window move to sign Chelsea midfielder By Wayne Veysey -4th February 2021 at 11:00am1 Chelsea knocked back a late-window approach from Leicester City for midfield sensation Billy Gilmour, Football Insider can reveal. Brendan Rodgers’ side were keen to take Gilmour, 19, on loan from the Blues for the second half of the campaign. But Chelsea rejected Leicester’s move because, a club source told Football Insider, they did not want to let a senior player join a rival chasing a top-four Premier league finish. The Scottish midfielder and Rangers academy product had been linked with a loan move to get regular game time after slipping down the pecking order at Stamford Bridge. He was not playing regularly before Frank Lampard’s dismissal last week and new boss Thomas Tuchel has left Gilmour out of the Chelsea squad for his first two games in charge against Wolves and Burnley. The central midfielder is keen to cement his place in the Scotland squad for the Euros this summer. But he will have to now do so at his parent club as he looks to win over Tuchel in the coming months. Gilmour made a huge impression for Chelsea last Spring before the first lockdown but his progress has subsequently stalled, partly due to a knee injury. He has nonetheless made 17 senior appearances for the Blues, six of which have come this season. Rangers were unable to stop Gilmour quitting in the summer of 2016 to head south of the border. The Ibrox club eventually accepted a £500,000 compensation fee for Gilmour as he ran down his deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davieG Posted 4 February 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted 4 February 2021 I'm not a big fan of loaning players from PL teams especially young ones in order to help their development. Seems somewhat counter productive to me. But nice to know that Chelsea and Arsenal see us a rivals. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 Shame because a loan deal may have opened the move to a permanent in the summer and this lad is the dogs bollocks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 Would've been happy with Maitland-Niles as we quite likely would've been able to get an option/obligation to buy in the loan deal if they were willing to talk Glad we didn't get Gilmour because no chance would they have agreed to something like that with how highly rated he is at Chelsea, would've just been helping to develop him for Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 I think it was a little naive of the club to think that Chelsea or Arsenal would want to loan us a player at this point of the season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 35 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: I think it was a little naive of the club to think that Chelsea or Arsenal would want to loan us a player at this point of the season. Don't ask don't get. We would have been throwing out enquiries left right and centre. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ALC Fox Posted 4 February 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 4 February 2021 1 minute ago, Babylon said: Don't ask don't get. We would have been throwing out enquiries left right and centre. Sows a little seed of doubt with the players too. If their clubs aren't going to play them, there's a progressive, well-regarded club with world class training facilities challenging at the top end of the table that does want to play them. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Babylon said: Don't ask don't get. We would have been throwing out enquiries left right and centre. Maybe, or focus on obtainable targets. Edited 4 February 2021 by coolhandfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 (edited) BR would’ve hoped to woo him with his philosophies and the new training ground Edited 4 February 2021 by HankMarvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 They aren’t going to help us out, and we really don’t want to be helping bring through their players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 2 hours ago, coolhandfox said: I think it was a little naive of the club to think that Chelsea or Arsenal would want to loan us a player at this point of the season. Unbelievably naive. I wonder if Rodgers thinks he has some favours he can call in from his time there, if so, that's even more naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 I don't really see how this would've ever happened. We're too big a positional rival to Chelsea and I do think for all his talent, he isn't going to waltz straight into our side in half a season either. Would've been better moves for him. Not that I'd have been against it actually happening as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, coolhandfox said: I think it was a little naive of the club to think that Chelsea or Arsenal would want to loan us a player at this point of the season. Absolutely. We should have been knocking of the doors of European elites for players like this (trust me there are many talented youth options in these squads) Asking rivals is a bit desperate. You can’t even say these guys have prem experience because they don’t really Edited 4 February 2021 by Lambert09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 4 February 2021 Share Posted 4 February 2021 Wouldn't say it was naive, we seemingly looked for players in Europe (Eriksen, Odegaard, Kukcu, Otavio) and like a lot of other clubs the later in the window it got we had to then focus on the domestic market So our best bet was always going to try and go for someone at one of the bigger clubs who isn't getting much game time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ALC Fox Posted 5 February 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 5 February 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lambert09 said: Absolutely. We should have been knocking of the doors of European elites for players like this (trust me there are many talented youth options in these squads) Asking rivals is a bit desperate. You can’t even say these guys have prem experience because they don’t really I dunno. Could there be an element of softening up some of these players? If we go in for them at a later stage, we prove that we're genuinely interested and not just desperate for a short-term option. Some of these players, especially Maitland-Niles because he and Arsenal differ on where they want him to play, are going to be trying to force their way out if they don't get games soon. And Gilmour. Tuchel's going to be like Mourinho, Conte, Hiddink, Ancelotti before him. There are only so many youngsters he can put in the team when he's under pressure to win trophies and qualify for the Champions League. If Gilmour isn't getting much of a sniff in 12 months, perhaps we go in again and we have an advantage because of our 'long-standing interest'. I do think there's an element of playing the long game with those two players in particular. We still might not sign either of them of course, but I do think we've potentially laid the groundwork for future deals. Edited 5 February 2021 by ALC Fox 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 5 February 2021 Share Posted 5 February 2021 Must be quite sh!t for the player involved. "We are not going to play you despite you earning your chance but we are not going to loan you to anyone decent either". Ofcourse it makes sense from Chelsea's perspective but it must be a kick in the stovies for the lad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 5 February 2021 Share Posted 5 February 2021 5 hours ago, moore_94 said: Wouldn't say it was naive, we seemingly looked for players in Europe (Eriksen, Odegaard, Kukcu, Otavio) and like a lot of other clubs the later in the window it got we had to then focus on the domestic market So our best bet was always going to try and go for someone at one of the bigger clubs who isn't getting much game time ...Eriksen and Odegaard were at the top level and was ambitious to think we could land them!!! What the previous poster was alluding to was why did we not look to target young fringe players from the Continent as we went from Eriksen to Chalobah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 5 February 2021 Share Posted 5 February 2021 12 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...Eriksen and Odegaard were at the top level and was ambitious to think we could land them!!! What the previous poster was alluding to was why did we not look to target young fringe players from the Continent as we went from Eriksen to Chalobah. Wouldn’t Brexit make it harder to get young fringe players from the continent now? I assume... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 5 February 2021 Share Posted 5 February 2021 This just feels like a bit of shithousery from us to be honest. It’s like we’re flexing our muscles to show these clubs who’s the powerful one now. Arsenal tried and failed to get Vardy and Mahrez while Chelsea have paid us £120m for our footballing talent and we’re still better off than them. Trying to get Maitland-Niles and Gilmour from them is smart business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerrrFox Posted 5 February 2021 Share Posted 5 February 2021 I fancy if he doesn’t get much of a look in with Chelsea for the rest of the season we might enquire about him again in the summer. He is the kind of deep playmaker that Brendan has wet dreams about. Very tidy footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 5 February 2021 Share Posted 5 February 2021 Chelsea? Hmm. Can be a graveyard for players with their stockpiling. Drinkwater ( other beverages are available) Berkley and Loftus-Cheek - England internationals surplus to requirements. Chilwell- expensive England international sitting o a bench Their longest serving player recently left having barely played for them havi g pottered around Europe on loan. They misjudged players De Bruyne Salah Lukaku Ake Magic and Mata maybe How many youngsters have they restricted over the years. More money than sense some clubs! Free Gilmour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhaw Posted 5 February 2021 Share Posted 5 February 2021 Just shows how far this club has come when Chelsea and Arsenal are both rejecting loan offers from us because they see us a major threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 5 February 2021 Share Posted 5 February 2021 2 hours ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Wouldn’t Brexit make it harder to get young fringe players from the continent now? I assume... ...playing in the primary leagues for elite European clubs and games played garners big points towards what is needed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 6 February 2021 Share Posted 6 February 2021 They didn’t want to let Gilmour leave.... but they let Barkley... who arguably will probably have more of an impact at Villa than Gilmour would anywhere else.... doesn’t make much sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 6 February 2021 Share Posted 6 February 2021 On 04/02/2021 at 14:19, coolhandfox said: Maybe, or focus on obtainable targets. How do you know who is obtainable without asking? Takes a few minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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