Leicesterpool Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 1 minute ago, BenTheFox said: I'm going to sound really patronising here but people see Watford as some sort of joke. I actually don't get it. It's not the way that I would want Leicester to be run but they have been the premier league for six of the past seven seasons, which for Watford is damn good going seeing as their owners are not actually very wealthy compared to the rest of the premier league. It has clearly works for them. I see your point but I think the problem for most as how they have treated their managers in the past. Under Pearson they had survival in their hands but decided to sack which basically cost them there premier league status. They have kind of bought their own problems to them they were better of sticking with the original guy before Ranieri came in. 1
Super_horns Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 (edited) It worked for a while staying in the PL and as you say Pearson gave us a chance but something happened and we got relegated. Then we had Ivic who the players particularly Troy Deeney didn’t get oh with so he went . Munoz did a decent job but never felt the fans took to him and there was a lot of pressure on him at the start of the season . The fans and players liked Ranieri but recent results went against him unfortunately. Roy Hodgson of all people has been heavily backed . Be a very bizarre left field appointment but he did work at Udinese with the Pozzos but left after 6 months without a lot of good to say about them . Edited 24 January 2022 by Super_horns
David Hankey Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 Sorry to hear the news of Claudio's demise although not completely surprised. Like many other managers he must be racking up more cash in pay-offs than actually for managing!!
KrefelderFox666 Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 1 hour ago, Rigga said: Amy idea when the next round of televised games are announced ?? Was meant to be today. I would think at some point this week. I will go for Thursday afternoon.
David Hankey Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 The Watford owners state they have a "talented" squad, little do they know about football. As for Claudio he has now been employed by the best owners in the EPL to one of the worst, how ironic is that?
NasPb Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 Feel bad for claudio. He should have retired after the title win tbh. He was the key that opened the door to it, he opened the gates to the best form of those players that nigel had got. Regardless if he didn't want to retire i don't get why he didn't stay in italy. Watford job is carincerous anyways. Decent squad but no chemistry. Reminds me of armies bringing private contractors. Mercenaries. 1
st albans fox Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 @superhorns apparently Roy hodgson is coming in to save your season !
Super_horns Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: @superhorns apparently Roy hodgson is coming in to save your season ! Good luck to him ! Might need it with our defence . He’ll find it’s not like Palaces was .
CosbehFox Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 He did it with Fulham but they had a decent defence which was added to with Hangeland. Surprised me the owners have gone that route 1
Aus Fox Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 Interesting hypothetical, would you rather be a supporter of Watford or Burnley over the last 7 seasons? Two vastly different approaches, Burnley with one manager and Watford changing 2 or 3 times a season. Both have had 6 of the last 7 seasons in the top flight, both when relegated bounced back immediately. Watford have had an FA Cup final appearance in that time, whilst Burnley usually go out very early in the cups. Burnley did finish 7th and qualified for Europe, although they did go out in the qualifying round. So which is a better approach? Who would you be happier with if you were a fan?
Nod.E Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 1 minute ago, Aus Fox said: Interesting hypothetical, would you rather be a supporter of Watford or Burnley over the last 7 seasons? Two vastly different approaches, Burnley with one manager and Watford changing 2 or 3 times a season. Both have had 6 of the last 7 seasons in the top flight, both when relegated bounced back immediately. Watford have had an FA Cup final appearance in that time, whilst Burnley usually go out very early in the cups. Burnley did finish 7th and qualified for Europe, although they did go out in the qualifying round. So which is a better approach? Who would you be happier with if you were a fan? Burnley. While they are struggling this season and may yet go down, their approach always felt sustainable. As you say they even managed a 7th finish. Watford have seemingly always been a few results away from collapse. I'm amazed to read they've managed 6 of the last 7 seasons in the Prem. Bear in mind as well that Burnley have done what they've done on relative pennies. 1
HybridFox Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 Roy Hodgson will definitely get one over us 1
Supergray22 Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 40 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: Interesting hypothetical, would you rather be a supporter of Watford or Burnley over the last 7 seasons? Two vastly different approaches, Burnley with one manager and Watford changing 2 or 3 times a season. Both have had 6 of the last 7 seasons in the top flight, both when relegated bounced back immediately. Watford have had an FA Cup final appearance in that time, whilst Burnley usually go out very early in the cups. Burnley did finish 7th and qualified for Europe, although they did go out in the qualifying round. So which is a better approach? Who would you be happier with if you were a fan? Interesting one. the obvious initial response is to say Burnley. History does show that longevity tends to correlate with success. Maybe that’s because if managers don’t cut the mustard they get the axe. If they are successful they stay on. Watford management take the view that they don’t wait for things to change or turnaround and that they actively intervene and make things happen. Given the quality of managers they have had they may be right. They have a similar record to Burnley as you say. I think from a supporters point of view it is whatever gets the best results at the end of the day be that in league success and/or football quality. Any manager going to Watford must know what is on the cards.
David Hankey Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 Whoever takes over the poisoned chalice at Watford they will just be another one in a long line who have hired and fired in quick succession. It is the owners who need to change not their managers. Seems they either have no idea or ideas above their station!!
CosbehFox Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 Just remembered when Woy had the aggro with the Watford mascot
Vazman Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 7 minutes ago, Pliskin said: Woy is going to die in a dug out isn’t he? Come on be honest, you not missed his post match comments on Match of the Day.
Vazman Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 9 hours ago, Aus Fox said: Interesting hypothetical, would you rather be a supporter of Watford or Burnley over the last 7 seasons? Two vastly different approaches, Burnley with one manager and Watford changing 2 or 3 times a season. Both have had 6 of the last 7 seasons in the top flight, both when relegated bounced back immediately. Watford have had an FA Cup final appearance in that time, whilst Burnley usually go out very early in the cups. Burnley did finish 7th and qualified for Europe, although they did go out in the qualifying round. So which is a better approach? Who would you be happier with if you were a fan? It has to be Burnley, I rate Dyche, I personally hope they stay up.
Spudulike Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 9 hours ago, Aus Fox said: Interesting hypothetical, would you rather be a supporter of Watford or Burnley over the last 7 seasons? Two vastly different approaches, Burnley with one manager and Watford changing 2 or 3 times a season. Both have had 6 of the last 7 seasons in the top flight, both when relegated bounced back immediately. Watford have had an FA Cup final appearance in that time, whilst Burnley usually go out very early in the cups. Burnley did finish 7th and qualified for Europe, although they did go out in the qualifying round. So which is a better approach? Who would you be happier with if you were a fan? Must be difficult for Watford fans to have a connection with the club when it's constantly in a state of change. It doesn't seem to have a philosophy or identity thus difficult to understand what they are. Burnley, on the other hand, have those things but I'm not sure that as a fan I would like what they have.
BenTheFox Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 Hodgson could actually prove to be a very sensible appointment. 2 1
Corky Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 Just now, BenTheFox said: Hodgson could actually prove to be a very sensible appointment. Agreed, his Palace spell was steady rather than spectacular but they were never in serious trouble in a full season there. If you're going short term you could do a lot worse. 1
BenTheFox Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 1 hour ago, David Hankey said: Whoever takes over the poisoned chalice at Watford they will just be another one in a long line who have hired and fired in quick succession. It is the owners who need to change not their managers. Seems they either have no idea or ideas above their station!! I can't agree with that. In terms of on the pitch performance, they have overseen the most successful period in the club's history since they were owned by Elton John in the mid-eighties. For them to have spent 6 of the last 7 seasons in the premier league is success for them, given their limited finances.
Popular Post Pliskin Posted 25 January 2022 Popular Post Posted 25 January 2022 21 minutes ago, Vazman said: Come on be honest, you not missed his post match comments on Match of the Day. Not a criticism, I can just imagine his wife standing at the door ready to go on that retirement cruise, only to see him peering round from the kitchen door “sowwy love I’ve done it again”…….. 5
foxinsocks Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 12 minutes ago, Corky said: Agreed, his Palace spell was steady rather than spectacular but they were never in serious trouble in a full season there. If you're going short term you could do a lot worse. Agree. yet the subsequent introduction of viera shows how a more aspiring more could produce benefits.
RowlattsFox Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 The thing with people like Hodgson, is I always think eventually it will be one job too many.
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