Colin Pitchfork - can be released from prison

[nnfox]

Oh.  Wait a minute.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57544939

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Bring back the rope. The law in this country is too bloody soft. I would be more than happy to pull the handle, although hanging is too good for the likes os Pitckfork

[Facecloth]

BBC News - Colin Pitchfork: Double schoolgirl murderer's release confirmed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57737050

[Innovindil]

13 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

BBC News - Colin Pitchfork: Double schoolgirl murderer's release confirmed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57737050

I truly find it shocking that they can deem him safe for release. I just can't see how someone who is capable of committing such a crime twice would not be able to do it a third time. Hard to believe a 61 year old wouldn't have the physical ability to subdue a 15 year old. Hopefully someone can keep a very close watch of him. 

[Fox92]

Disgusting. Any murderer should be in prison for life and die there.

[Countryfox]

30 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

BBC News - Colin Pitchfork: Double schoolgirl murderer's release confirmed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57737050

 

To the young girl out there enjoying her life  (sorry we don't know who you are yet)  ...   make the most of it cus some complete TW@T has decided to let a conniving, sadistic, manipulative, terrifyingly brutal murdering rapist called Pitchfork back out onto the streets.  

[Facecloth]

7 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

I truly find it shocking that they can deem him safe for release. I just can't see how someone who is capable of committing such a crime twice would not be able to do it a third time. Hard to believe a 61 year old wouldn't have the physical ability to subdue a 15 year old. Hopefully someone can keep a very close watch of him. 

I'm obviously not qualified to know whether he could be rehabilitated, but my understanding would be that someone who sells drugs or steals or someone who murders someone in anger can be rehabilitated. When the crime becomes one of power then it would surely be harder to rehabilitate them, this is something deeply ingrained in them. Other crimes might be committed due to circumstances of life, where as Pitchfork didn't do this to make money, or feed his family or because he had an argument, he did this because he wanted to, and he wanted the power over the girls he raped and murdered. How do you change that way of thinking? Does he not still crave that? Will that craving be stronger after years of being in jail? Or is it possible for a psychologist to change his way of thinking?

[MonmoreStef]

I blame this belief, that some people have, that we can rehabilitate people. That’s fine with some petty criminals. Let’s say you start to befriend a chap in the pub.  Somewhere along the line he informs you he’s been in prison.  There would be a point where you’d not want to know him if he’s been inside for a certain level of crime. Who in their right mind would want to have anything to do with a double killer of two totally random young girls. I just can’t see what use Pitchfork is to society. For those who say hanging is to good for him,  I disagree. Lock him up for thirty years first then hang him I say. 

[rico]

I'm sure that whoever has ok'd his release wouldn't want him living in their area …

[Livid]

It's an dearful decision but I think a lot of people have their hands tied by the sentencing at the time.

 

I'm guessing there has been numerous evaluations done and an awful lot of boxes ticked and after that there's not a lot anyone can do.

 

I think when most child killers are sentenced i have a feeling they will never survive x number of years inside, unfortunately Pitchfork has proved the exception to that.

 

Life should have meant life unfortunately at the time of sentencing it didn't.

[RoboFox]

3 hours ago, Livid said:

It's an dearful decision but I think a lot of people have their hands tied by the sentencing at the time.

From the introduction of the whole-life order system in 1983 until an appeal by a prisoner named Anthony Anderson in 2002 a whole-life tariff was set by government ministers, usually successive home secretaries. 

 

Plenty of prisoners were given retrospective whole-life orders during this time, it seems strange that a double-murderer seems to have avoided it, and thus I believe it fell to the parole board to determine his release. 

[Paninistickers]

It's a really difficult one. And I'm positive the parole board would have been far more nitpicky than perhaps usual to find a fault with a release. 

 

I can only imagine the family have dreaded the 30 year expiry of his term....at first it seems a.lifetime but it must've crept ever nearer and became increasingly present. 

 

If it was a close family.member of mine, and I accept this is easy to say when you are detached, but I might perhaps want to 'discuss' the matter with him, man to man, regardless of his professionally reviewed rehab

 

 

[Free Falling Foxes]

The law really is an ass.

[Parafox]

I think a murderer is a cold calculated killer but there are numerous different motives for killing. Sometimes for drugs, sometimes for love, sometimes for revenge, sometimes an attempt to avoid  being identified by another. There's so many. But, in Pitchfork's case (and others) he identified his victims. Neither girls were a chance meeting. Her knew where they would be at a specific time. He followed them, attacked them and then did what he did. Both times whilst his wife was away from home. 

He's almost inhuman as are so many child rapists/killers. My mind goes back to Ian Huntley. Double killer. Brady and Hindley, multiple child rapes and murders. They have died in prison. Pitchfork should suffer the same fate.

I'll never forget the morning shift at Narborough Ambulance station when my crewmate told me what he'd found on the black pad and that he was about to be interviewed by the police. As was I, as we were on shift together on that day.

My colleague thought he'd found a pile of clothing until he saw a girls face.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Hope his address and identity is put in the public domain very shortly (and I'm certain it will be).

[whoareyaaa]

Shame we don't have the death sentence for people like this, a life for a life 2 in this case and he's able to roam freely absolutely disgusting 

[Daggers]

On 08/06/2021 at 12:13, promised land said:

 

 

…crime investigation has moved on a fair bit since then.

And yet miscarriages of justice still persist.

[ozleicester]

I am opposed to the death penalty, but it is decisions like this that make that argument hard to make.

[Daggers]

[DennisNedry]

I fully take the argument that the problem of executing wrongly convicted criminals is (or rather, was) a huge and insurmountable one.

 

However, technology and policing has moved on hugely since 1965.

 

In cases like Pitchfork, we can be 100% certain that he committed the murders due to DNA evidence. Some murders are even filmed by the perpetrators these days! In cases such as these where you can be absolutely certain of guilt, I can't see the logic in not just executing them. Saves the cost of prison, saves the parole heartache etc but more importantly for me it just feels like the only fitting punishment.

[HighPeakFox]

(deep breath) I am against execution, simply because it proves that we refuse to learn  why people like this come into being. I am quite sure that it will be said that 'because they do' but it is never as simple as that. Execution is no deterrent, and it simply turns those with power (and thus all of us) into more savage, vengeful, sanctimonious beings.

[Countryfox]

46 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

 Execution is no deterrent ..

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Not so sure about that bit Peaky .. 

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, Countryfox said:

Not so sure about that bit Peaky .. 

See the USA. 

[Countryfox]

22 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

See the USA. 

Yep I know they have the death penalty over there and I know they have a high murder rate …. but I think a lot of that is due to the fact they are all allowed to wander around with military style weapons on their person …. and their attitude is very different to ours.   I am not saying I’m actually in favour of the death penalty for all the obvious ‘what if you’re wrong’ reasons …. however ..  imo I’m confident that if there was a death penalty in this country it would have an impact on the murder rate ..  how much I’ve no idea …. but I’ve no doubt some sad b@stards aren’t really fazed by a cosy life behind bars …. being put down like a rabid dog though  …. a different matter. 

[FoxesDeb]

8 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

Yep I know they have the death penalty over there and I know they have a high murder rate …. but I think a lot of that is due to the fact they are all allowed to wander around with military style weapons on their person …. and their attitude is very different to ours.   I am not saying I’m actually in favour of the death penalty for all the obvious ‘what if you’re wrong’ reasons …. however ..  imo I’m confident that if there was a death penalty in this country it would have an impact on the murder rate ..  how much I’ve no idea …. but I’ve no doubt some sad b@stards aren’t really fazed by a cosy life behind bars …. being put down like a rabid dog though  …. a different matter. 

I don't think many people committing a murder expects to be caught, so it doesn't really matter to them what the punishment is if they don't think it will ever apply.