MalletFox Posted 4 November 2021 Share Posted 4 November 2021 He got a lot of stick at one point in the 2nd half for not playing a ball in behind for Daka and then seemed to hold his hand up apologetically to the fans. I felt a bit sorry for him, he’s not an up n down wing back, he’s an ageing LB who is a squad player at best. I was relieved he put a decent corner in which we scored from before getting subbed, think he was quite pleased to go off n all tbh! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamafox Posted 4 November 2021 Share Posted 4 November 2021 Bertrand is as useful as the name of the OP 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyrobot Posted 4 November 2021 Share Posted 4 November 2021 2 minutes ago, MalletFox said: He got a lot of stick at one point in the 2nd half for not playing a ball in behind for Daka and then seemed to hold his hand up apologetically to the fans. I felt a bit sorry for him, he’s not an up n down wing back, he’s an ageing LB who is a squad player at best. I was relieved he put a decent corner in which we scored from before getting subbed, think he was quite pleased to go off n all tbh! Yeh I saw that apology. How he missed Daka’s run tho fcuk knows. His mindset seems so focused on shuffling it back or sideways that he’s forgotten to look forwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 4 November 2021 Share Posted 4 November 2021 If only Brendan had listened to Southampton fans or looked at their fans forum, they kept saying for over a year that both Bertrand and Vestergaard aren't good enough, ones legs have gone and the other is s***. Don't think Bertrand is the same as what Brendan saw of him a decade ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 4 November 2021 Share Posted 4 November 2021 I’m beginning to think we signed some bloke called Bertrand Ryan who had never played football before 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 4 November 2021 Share Posted 4 November 2021 Cart 🐎. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Lcfc Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 (edited) The bloke is rubbish, I’ve seen enough. Their goal was partially his fault as he was firstly out of position and secondly, he made no attempt to track the man. I just don’t see what he’s good at? Crossing is poor, tackling is poor, work ethic is also poor. What riles me about him is how passenger he is, he’s constantly out of position and doesn’t even track back. I said it weeks ago - I am honestly astonished by his lack of ability to do the basics. This is a man who has played regular top flight football for seven years. Maybe I am being too harsh, however, I think he has been absolutely dismal. Edited 5 November 2021 by Matt_Lcfc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eblair Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 Was pitiful tonight. The 15 minutes he was left back in front of east stand is worst individual display I’ve seen from a Leicester player since we’ve been a prem side again. Defending for the goal was disgraceful, then he had temerity to start waving his arms about to crowd and players. Thought at one moment crowd had really turned against him Only thing giving me any hope is could be long Covid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 My god in a night where most of the team put in a stinker he stood out for being nowhere near the required standard he'd have looked average in Spartaks team. As another poster said he lacks the basics, he's like a raw prospect without any of the upside and he just looks to be going through the motions. I'm glad Brendan hooked him and he can rot in the reserves until his contract runs out far as I'm concerned. Horrible, horrible performance from Bertrand, still angry about it 3 hours later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Lcfc Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 10 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: My god in a night where most of the team put in a stinker he stood out for being nowhere near the required standard he'd have looked average in Spartaks team. As another poster said he lacks the basics, he's like a raw prospect without any of the upside and he just looks to be going through the motions. I'm glad Brendan hooked him and he can rot in the reserves until his contract runs out far as I'm concerned. Horrible, horrible performance from Bertrand, still angry about it 3 hours later. The raw prospect notion is bang on. Soumare and Daka have both struggled at times but this is normal as transition periods between clubs often happen. However, unlike Bertrand, they have both demonstrated glimpses of their ability - I can’t actually remember Bertrand showing anything. As I’ve basically said above, his genuine lack of desire also really irritates me too, it was absolutely pathetic tonight. Maybe I am overreacting but I would be more than happy to never see him in a Leicester shirt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 1 minute ago, Matt_Lcfc said: The raw prospect notion is bang on. Soumare and Daka have both struggled at times but this is normal as transition periods between clubs often happen. However, unlike Bertrand, they have both demonstrated glimpses of their ability - I can’t actually remember Bertrand showing anything. As I’ve basically said above, his genuine lack of desire also really irritates me too, it was absolutely pathetic tonight. Maybe I am overreacting but I would be more than happy to never see him in a Leicester shirt again. No you're not over reacting this is spot on. I said the exact same thing about never wanting to see him in a City shirt again about 35 mins into the game. God he's bad. He has nothing going for him other than experience and you're spot on no desire just going through the motions and picking up a pay cheque. Hes a total dud signing, what were we thinking? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 He was awful tonight and he knew it. He could feel the fans turning on him and he was probably relieved to get subbed. Expectations are much higher here than at Southampton and he won't get away with the tripe performances we've seen so far. Once Justin and Ricardo are both fit and even Albrighton, I can't see him even making the match day squad. Justin, Castagne, Ricardo and Thomas are much better and I think I'd rather play Albrighton lwb when he's fit. It's not his best position but we know he will get up and down and work hard for the team and he can put in a decent cross. Much more than Bertrand offers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Lcfc Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 Just now, Arriba Los Zorros said: No you're not over reacting this is spot on. I said the exact same thing about never wanting to see him in a City shirt again about 35 mins into the game. God he's bad. He has nothing going for him other than experience and you're spot on no desire just going through the motions and picking up a pay cheque. Hes a total dud signing, what were we thinking? Honestly, there is just nothing there. Been sold an absolute lie about him being a great crosser and a solid PL left back. Only positive is that we got him on a free I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 2 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: He was awful tonight and he knew it. He could feel the fans turning on him and he was probably relieved to get subbed. Expectations are much higher here than at Southampton and he won't get away with the tripe performances we've seen so far. Once Justin and Ricardo are both fit and even Albrighton, I can't see him even making the match day squad. Justin, Castagne, Ricardo and Thomas are much better and I think I'd rather play Albrighton lwb when he's fit. It's not his best position but we know he will get up and down and work hard for the team and he can put in a decent cross. Much more than Bertrand offers 2 minutes ago, Matt_Lcfc said: Honestly, there is just nothing there. Been sold an absolute lie about him being a great crosser and a solid PL left back. Only positive is that we got him on a free I guess. Watching Bertrand tonight was like a throwback to most of our players in the mid to late 00s. A lack of ability, quality and most of all desire. **** him I hope he never makes any more squads until he decides he can be arsed to pull on the shirt when called upon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: Watching Bertrand tonight was like a throwback to most of our players in the mid to late 00s. A lack of ability, quality and most of all desire. **** him I hope he never makes any more squads until he decides he can be arsed to pull on the shirt when called upon. This is it, it's the perceived lack of effort and desire from him. I've not worked out whether it is lack of effort or whether his legs have just gone and he just physically can't keep up with the demands of top level football. Either way, how has Rodgers and/or the coaching staff not realised there is an issue with him? Doesn't help that Ricardo, Justin and Albrighton are all out as it does only leave is with Castagne, Thomas and Bertrand and with Thomas still being young and inexperienced, it could be too much for him to keep playing 2 games a week. I fully expect Thomas to start at Leeds unless Ricardo is back. Edited 5 November 2021 by jayfox26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACF Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 IMHO opinion his legs are gone but he would still offer a lot if used as a third CB, like Amartey and JJ last year. We need pace from the wingbacks to stretch the opposition as much as possible, unfortunately at the moment Ryan’s not up to it. Really don’t believe he’s “shit” though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 1 hour ago, jayfox26 said: This is it, it's the perceived lack of effort and desire from him. I've not worked out whether it is lack of effort or whether his legs have just gone and he just physically can't keep up with the demands of top level football. Either way, how has Rodgers and/or the coaching staff not realised there is an issue with him? Doesn't help that Ricardo, Justin and Albrighton are all out as it does only leave is with Castagne, Thomas and Bertrand and with Thomas still being young and inexperienced, it could be too much for him to keep playing 2 games a week. I fully expect Thomas to start at Leeds unless Ricardo is back. If we have to shoehorn Castagne to left back to avoid Thomas playing two games a week, at least we can call on Mr Utility himself, Dan Amartey, to play right back. Regarding Bertrand, he just does not look bothered. I'd like to think that is not the case and either his legs have gone or he's suffering from long covid, but at the minute he's a hindrance not a help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 3 hours ago, MalletFox said: He got a lot of stick at one point in the 2nd half for not playing a ball in behind for Daka and then seemed to hold his hand up apologetically to the fans. I felt a bit sorry for him, he’s not an up n down wing back, he’s an ageing LB who is a squad player at best. I was relieved he put a decent corner in which we scored from before getting subbed, think he was quite pleased to go off n all tbh! I agree he is a LB not a wingback. He has been on a downhill slope since COVID. He looked pretty decent at first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 57 minutes ago, ACF said: IMHO opinion his legs are gone but he would still offer a lot if used as a third CB, like Amartey and JJ last year. We need pace from the wingbacks to stretch the opposition as much as possible, unfortunately at the moment Ryan’s not up to it. Really don’t believe he’s “shit” though. Agree too he is not “shit”. He should be starting ahead of Thomas but my first choice would still be Castagne there with Ricardo on the right (until Justin comes back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 He is so so poor. Cannot name a single redeeming feature. Thomas has struggled at times but he's been both better than Bertrand, and he's also got age on his side. Persist with him - Bertrand is no steady eddie, put it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardinio'sCat Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 Good corners tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 5 hours ago, funkyrobot said: Yeh I saw that apology. How he missed Daka’s run tho fcuk knows. His mindset seems so focused on shuffling it back or sideways that he’s forgotten to look forwards. To be fair, that is the mindset we have throughout the team mostly nowadays. Lookman even did it last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 Wasting our time playing him rather than developing Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 The signing concerned me at the time and still does. Along with Vestergaard, a shift in how we operate and a misguided and expensive one at that. He'll see out his contract here playing very little football. Compared to Castagne he was honking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 5 November 2021 Share Posted 5 November 2021 4 hours ago, Tom12345 said: I agree he is a LB not a wingback. He has been on a downhill slope since COVID. He looked pretty decent at first. Agree. His performance was so poor last night it transcended anger into pity. His performance at the charity shield - pre covid - was fine. Post covid, he's looked a broken man. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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