Brentford 1-2 LCFC - Post Match Thread

[CosbehFox]

Surprised at the groans about the stadium. I went Wimbledon’s a few weeks back and they are very similar in that; small site to fit a Stadium and housing has to be built around it to get the necessary cash. 
 

Yeah Brentford’s ground lacked a bit of character but that’s quite often the case for months in a new stadium. With a congested site, they’ve had to build something unique in its roof but it is over clad in areas. 

 

I stayed over last night but pre match we drank at the Strand on the Green and then headed down Chiswick High Road post match and eventually the edge of Hammersmith.
 

Didn’t go these pubs when we went Griffin Park (where there is two great pubs when we went for the cup fixture) and wouldn’t go them for any other London fixture (which isn’t always the case - normally end up basing ourselves at say Liverpool Street or London Bridge for example because of the sheer lack of pubs which allow away fans nearby some grounds). 
 

I ran from Chiswick to Craven Cottage this morning, you could quite easily do a pub crawl from Hammersmith Bridge along the Thames 

Edited 25 October 2021 by Cardiff_Fox

[Jonezy]

Thomas Frank is full of them sour grapes. They were all over us 1st half, I agree, but considering most of that half went on in our half, they really did not create much. They were only scary from set pieces. And calling Youri's thunderc*nt lucky is bad sport; he won't see a better goal all season. I understand is annoying having the upper hand in a game and then get caught out by a worldie, but give it some credit. Not impressed with my fellow dane.

 

 

 

 

[BKLFox]

1 hour ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Weren't Leicester interested in signing Kristoffer Ajer last year and didn't he credit Brendan in turning him from a midfielder to a defender

+ @sacreblueits442 

He would have certainly been a better option than Vestergaard for sure but at the time we weren’t in the market for an established CB we were looking for a youngster to bring through. 
Ajer went to Brentford mid July our issue sadly started beginning of Aug

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Weren't Leicester interested in signing Kristoffer Ajer last year and didn't he credit Brendan in turning him from a midfielder to a defender

...according to @Muzzy_Larssonhe was a tad inconsistent but more reliable, than the players around him!!!

He has not brought anyone from Celtic to play for us and the sure fire Edouard signing did not happen and you wonder just what is going on. The speculation is that Celtic will not sell to us, it could be some be truth in that, as the price for Edouard was going up it seemed everyday.

Edited 25 October 2021 by sacreblueits442

[FoxOnWheels]

Nothing lucky with Youri’s goal at all for me! He clearly has that technique and ability, probably scores them all the time in training, it’s hardly Titus Bramble who’s hit it then he might have a point

[StanSP]

Just watching the 2nd goal again. It really is done at lightning speed.

 

Iheanacho is quite close to the box barely a couple of seconds just before Kasper gathers the ball. He's absolutely belted it to the other side of the pitch.

Daka is on the edge of the box as Kasper kicks it.

 

As fast as Maddison & Daka race up to the Brentford half, Iheanacho has held up the ball superbly. 

 

Reminded me of the Vardy goal against West Brom where he exchanged passes with Drinkwater and they're just too quick for the defence to handle.

 

 

[NasPb]

Football is a game about winning. Ask simeone or prime mourinho. Who gives a f about xg when you win. And we deserved to win. We were way more clinical. They weren't unlucky they were poor in front of goal! 

Edited 25 October 2021 by NasPb

[biggs]

I agree we were pretty much second best in most aspects of the game but not the scoresheet....Oh not so classy Frankie 'We deserved to win' should maybe look a little deeper into his teams failure to capitalize before spouting off on our 'moment of quality or luck'

 

1 - 2 is what really matters not what should have been....tough one Frankie

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

3 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...makes you wonder why Rodgers did not look to bring him in for us!!!

Yeah a bloke that can't even get into the Brentford team....didn't even realise he was playing. Hardly one that got away.

[MalletFox]

Interested to hear views on the atmosphere yesterday. I was saying in the KP atmosphere thread that I would consider most Premier League ‘home’ atmospheres to be pretty poor, and would echo that yesterday. I thought the general atmosphere was quite Sundayish tbh.

[NewBee]

3 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

The fact you're in it is great, it's probably an engineering spectacle based on squeezing a ground into that tight corner. I also suspect it'll be the thing that keeps you up self sufficient and solvent for many, many years to come.

Actually the stadium plan was changed a few times during the long process of getting the bloody thing built.

 

For one thing they had hoped to incorporate Conferencing Facilities in the stadium, to provide non-matchday income. Then they realised that we're a football club, not an Event Management company i.e. we had to be humble enough to realise our limitations, esp with all the competition in London or nearby.

 

Also the original plan was to accommodate 20k fans, until someone worked out that by including a couple of thousand Premium places, with associated hospitality lounges and the like, would produce more revenue, even with the consequential 2,750 reduction in overall capacity.

 

And for all that, apparently the new stadium still wouldn't see the club break even whilst in the Championship, such is the financial disparity within the division between the "parachute" clubs and the rest, never mind between the Championship and the PL.

 

So while a season or two in the PL should take care of current debts and repay the stadium etc, it will still take a longer spell in the PL to set the club up properly for the medium term.

 

Unless we sell up to some Saudi mass murderer, that is.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

I'm a very happy bunny. Good away win, but Brentford look pretty good, and I don't think they will be in any danger of going back down. Certainly hope not.

[NewBee]

1 hour ago, FoxOnWheels said:

Nothing lucky with Youri’s goal at all for me! He clearly has that technique and ability, probably scores them all the time in training,

It wasn't at all "lucky" in the sense that he knew exactly what he was doing, and has the technique to pull it off when most other players don't.

 

But I think TF's point was that for all the above, he'll still only hit a goal like that maybe a couple of times a season, 3 at most..

 

Made worse by the fact that it happened to be against Brentford and in a tight game where it made the difference between a draw and a defeat.

 

In other words, bemoaning the fact that we were "unlucky" isn't the same as claiming that YT was "lucky".

 

EDIT: I see that in 97 PL games for Leicester to date, YT has scored 15 times. And they can't all have been "worldies".

 

 

Edited 25 October 2021 by NewBee

[surrifox]

Are we going to have a whole season of Brentford victimhood  supported and propagated by the media ? Last week it was “we were all over Chelsea but cruel fate denied us even a point “

this week “ we murdered Leicester but their lucky shot/ time wasting tactics/ biased ref denied our rightful reward 

 

they were given credit for a spirited performance but wanted more . In fact they don’t have a single player in their side that would displace anyone in the Leicester or Chelsea teams - the natural order dictates they should lose under such circumstances . They will get the points they need to survive from the Newcastles Evertons , southamptons and Burnleys but just for now please just STFU 

[MalletFox]

27 minutes ago, surrifox said:

Are we going to have a whole season of Brentford victimhood  supported and propagated by the media ? Last week it was “we were all over Chelsea but cruel fate denied us even a point “

this week “ we murdered Leicester but their lucky shot/ time wasting tactics/ biased ref denied our rightful reward 

 

they were given credit for a spirited performance but wanted more . In fact they don’t have a single player in their side that would displace anyone in the Leicester or Chelsea teams - the natural order dictates they should lose under such circumstances . They will get the points they need to survive from the Newcastles Evertons , southamptons and Burnleys but just for now please just STFU 

Why don’t you say what you really think!!?? 

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, NasPb said:

Football is a game about winning. Ask simeone or prime mourinho. Who gives a f about xg when you win. And we deserved to win. We were way more clinical. They weren't unlucky they were poor in front of goal! 

Ask Mourinho how long he stays in a job...not very because the style of football kills peoples spirits and they'd rather see him gone.

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, NewBee said:

It wasn't at all "lucky" in the sense that he knew exactly what he was doing, and has the technique to pull it off when most other players don't.

 

But I think TF's point was that for all the above, he'll still only hit a goal like that maybe a couple of times a season, 3 at most..

 

Made worse by the fact that it happened to be against Brentford and in a tight game where it made the difference between a draw and a defeat.

 

In other words, bemoaning the fact that we were "unlucky" isn't the same as claiming that YT was "lucky".

 

EDIT: I see that in 97 PL games for Leicester to date, YT has scored 15 times. And they can't all have been "worldies".

 

 

...he is building a show reel this season....you may have to rethink that!!!

Was known for his long distant shooting and it has been seen now and again since he came here.

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, NewBee said:

It wasn't at all "lucky" in the sense that he knew exactly what he was doing, and has the technique to pull it off when most other players don't.

 

But I think TF's point was that for all the above, he'll still only hit a goal like that maybe a couple of times a season, 3 at most..

 

Made worse by the fact that it happened to be against Brentford and in a tight game where it made the difference between a draw and a defeat.

 

In other words, bemoaning the fact that we were "unlucky" isn't the same as claiming that YT was "lucky".

 

EDIT: I see that in 97 PL games for Leicester to date, YT has scored 15 times. And they can't all have been "worldies".

 

 

I wouldn't bother trying mate. The average mental age of this forum is about 6 when it comes to other people commenting on us

 

Were allowed to slate and go to town on our club but how dare anyone not rim us 100% of the time!

 

He was right, most times that doesn't fly in, all youri is doing is making a good connection and hoping for the best. His technique means he's less likely to balloon it but it could still easily hit a player, miss the target or be saved by the keeper.

 

 

[FoxOnWheels]

1 hour ago, NewBee said:

It wasn't at all "lucky" in the sense that he knew exactly what he was doing, and has the technique to pull it off when most other players don't.

 

But I think TF's point was that for all the above, he'll still only hit a goal like that maybe a couple of times a season, 3 at most..

 

Made worse by the fact that it happened to be against Brentford and in a tight game where it made the difference between a draw and a defeat.

 

In other words, bemoaning the fact that we were "unlucky" isn't the same as claiming that YT was "lucky".

 

EDIT: I see that in 97 PL games for Leicester to date, YT has scored 15 times. And they can't all have been "worldies".

 

 

In all fairness mate most of them have been 😂

[Carl the Llama]

1 hour ago, NewBee said:

It wasn't at all "lucky" in the sense that he knew exactly what he was doing, and has the technique to pull it off when most other players don't.

 

But I think TF's point was that for all the above, he'll still only hit a goal like that maybe a couple of times a season, 3 at most..

 

Made worse by the fact that it happened to be against Brentford and in a tight game where it made the difference between a draw and a defeat.

 

In other words, bemoaning the fact that we were "unlucky" isn't the same as claiming that YT was "lucky".

 

EDIT: I see that in 97 PL games for Leicester to date, YT has scored 15 times. And they can't all have been "worldies".

 

 

Very silly edit.  If you're going digging to fulfil your confirmation bias you could at least take the time to watch those goals.  Sounds very much like you're trying to say he got lucky without taking ownership of that opinion.

[NewBee]

4 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

Very silly edit.  If you're going digging to fulfil your confirmation bias you could at least take the time to watch those goals.  Sounds very much like you're trying to say he got lucky without taking ownership of that opinion.

Re your bold, in two full seasons, YT scored 9 goals in 75 PL games. Assuming that half of those were "worldies" like on Sunday, then that is 2 or 3 a season.

 

Which is exactly what I originally posted i.e. "But I think TF's point was that for all the above, he'll still only hit a goal like that maybe a couple of times a season, 3 at most.".

 

As for his "getting lucky", here is what I originally posted in that respect: "It wasn't at all "lucky" in the sense that he knew exactly what he was doing, and has the technique to pull it off when most other players don't."

 

So I will try again to explain that imo, it was statistically unlucky for Brentford that it happened to us, rather than some other team, and during a match where it proved the difference between a draw and a defeat.

 

And that cannot be construed as in any way disparaging of YT's brilliant strike - unless you want to read it that way.

[HighPeakFox]

2 minutes ago, NewBee said:

Re your bold, in two full seasons, YT scored 9 goals in 75 PL games. Assuming that half of those were "worldies" like on Sunday, then that is 2 or 3 a season.

 

Which is exactly what I originally posted i.e. "But I think TF's point was that for all the above, he'll still only hit a goal like that maybe a couple of times a season, 3 at most.".

 

As for his "getting lucky", here is what I originally posted in that respect: "It wasn't at all "lucky" in the sense that he knew exactly what he was doing, and has the technique to pull it off when most other players don't."

 

So I will try again to explain that imo, it was statistically unlucky for Brentford that it happened to us, rather than some other team, and during a match where it proved the difference between a draw and a defeat.

 

And that cannot be construed as in any way disparaging of YT's brilliant strike - unless you want to read it that way.

Enjoying your posts - sorry about some of the odd responses.

[KFS]

6 minutes ago, NewBee said:

Re your bold, in two full seasons, YT scored 9 goals in 75 PL games. Assuming that half of those were "worldies" like on Sunday, then that is 2 or 3 a season.

 

Which is exactly what I originally posted i.e. "But I think TF's point was that for all the above, he'll still only hit a goal like that maybe a couple of times a season, 3 at most.".

 

As for his "getting lucky", here is what I originally posted in that respect: "It wasn't at all "lucky" in the sense that he knew exactly what he was doing, and has the technique to pull it off when most other players don't."

 

So I will try again to explain that imo, it was statistically unlucky for Brentford that it happened to us, rather than some other team, and during a match where it proved the difference between a draw and a defeat.

 

And that cannot be construed as in any way disparaging of YT's brilliant strike - unless you want to read it that way.

Listen pal, I know your hipster fans have bought into this Billy Bean Moneyball nonsense, but it’s sentences like this that’ll get you laughed out of the Premier League.
 

Alongside statistics are facts, and the fact of the matter is Youri smashed a thundercvnt past your keeper because your boys didn’t close him down. Nothing ‘statistically unlucky’ about that, your team wasn’t good enough in that moment and ours was.

 

 

[NewBee]

4 minutes ago, KFS said:

Listen pal, I know your hipster fans have bought into this Billy Bean Moneyball nonsense, but it’s sentences like this that’ll get you laughed out of the Premier League.

If that is the same "Billy Bean Moneyball nonsense" which has taken us to all the way to the PL, from playing in League One before crowds of 6k, in an outdated, crumbling 12k capacity stadium, whilst in so much debt that we were literally making bucket collections to keep the lights on, then that will do this geriatric hipster just fine.

[Carl the Llama]

12 minutes ago, NewBee said:

Re your bold, in two full seasons, YT scored 9 goals in 75 PL games. Assuming that half of those were "worldies" like on Sunday, then that is 2 or 3 a season.

 

Which is exactly what I originally posted i.e. "But I think TF's point was that for all the above, he'll still only hit a goal like that maybe a couple of times a season, 3 at most.".

 

As for his "getting lucky", here is what I originally posted in that respect: "It wasn't at all "lucky" in the sense that he knew exactly what he was doing, and has the technique to pull it off when most other players don't."

 

So I will try again to explain that imo, it was statistically unlucky for Brentford that it happened to us, rather than some other team, and during a match where it proved the difference between a draw and a defeat.

 

And that cannot be construed as in any way disparaging of YT's brilliant strike - unless you want to read it that way.

I seem to recall an equaliser being scored after that goal.  The difference between victory and defeat is more down to the 2nd goal.

 

To compare it to a scenario we faced recently:  In the match against Man Utd last week, we were well on top of the play until Greenwood scored an absolute stunner to give them the lead.  If you go back and read the match thread you'll see most people at the time responded along the lines of "what a great goal, not much we can do about that", I don't recall any complaints about luck.  Had we not gone on to make the most our relative dominance in open play I can't imagine any response other than holding our hands up at the goal then pointing fingers at our own lot for failure to capitalise.  None of this 'we deserved to win, it's unlucky conceding that goal today of all days' stuff.

 

Let me just clarify that I have nothing against Brentford, I've been wishing the best for them since the opening day of the season, matches against us excepted, I just find the way you hold dear to that particular line of argument rather odd.