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Posted
1 hour ago, LestaLad said:

 

Had a very good break out season a couple of seasons ago.  Sturm might be cash strapped now they are out of the CL.  Another Dane to keep Vesty company…,.   Worth a punt at a reasonable fee as only 22 and has potential.  

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Where is this from? It does not match fbref at all. 

 

That's because fbref will only have the European games he played last season which was about 4.

Posted
Just now, Ric Flair said:

That's because fbref will only have the European games he played last season which was about 4.

 

No no. Fbref only shows top five leagues and continental competitions in its visuals, which is what was loaded above. 

 

Fbref has massively comprehensive stats on every player in every league. 

 

Their data comes from opta iirc. 

 

William Boving, in the Austrian Bundesliga in 24/25 got 5 assists in 24.1 lots of 90 minutes which is about 0.21 p90 (0.2075 if we're being picky) and is nowhere near rank 1 even just for forwards. 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

No no. Fbref only shows top five leagues and continental competitions in its visuals, which is what was loaded above. 

 

Fbref has massively comprehensive stats on every player in every league. 

 

Their data comes from opta iirc. 

 

William Boving, in the Austrian Bundesliga in 24/25 got 5 assists in 24.1 lots of 90 minutes which is about 0.21 p90 (0.2075 if we're being picky) and is nowhere near rank 1 even just for forwards. 

 

I was talking about the standard visuals such as the below which is evidently distorted. 

 

 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Where is this from? It does not match fbref at all. 

 

DataMB who use Wyscout’s statistics 👍🏻

Posted
1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

I was talking about the standard visuals such as the below which is evidently distorted. 

 

 

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Yeah they're useless for all players that don't play in a top 5 league. 

 

But like I said, the actual stats on record for Boving don't match the graphic @kingfox posted which seems to swing hugely the other way? 

Posted
11 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

Our track record of signing strikers from the Austrian league is exemplary....:ph34r:

Haarland started life in the Austrian Bundesliga.  Daka should not make us completely write off any player in Austria. Many go to the German Bundesliga and are successful.

Posted
20 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Yeah they're useless for all players that don't play in a top 5 league. 

 

But like I said, the actual stats on record for Boving don't match the graphic @kingfox posted which seems to swing hugely the other way? 

Because those FBRef stats only consist of Champions League data, not Austrian Bundesliga data which I’ve compared him with. Plus FBRef lists him as an attacking midfielder/winger, which will make certain metrics even more skewed.

 

As you mentioned his assist statistics to Ric, this is what he compared with other Austrian Bundesliga strikers last season. 
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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, kingfox said:

Because those FBRef stats only consist of Champions League data, not Austrian Bundesliga data

 

Please stop repeating this. 

 

https://fbref.com/en/comps/56/2024-2025/stats/2024-2025-Austrian-Bundesliga-Stats#all_stats_standard

 

The fbref visuals people show only include top 5 leagues and continental competitions. 

 

But fbref actually holds extensive data, from Opta, on most leagues. 

 

You can find Boving's entire career stats in great detail on fbref. 

 

https://fbref.com/en/players/731302dc/William-Boving

 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Please stop repeating this. 

 

https://fbref.com/en/comps/56/2024-2025/stats/2024-2025-Austrian-Bundesliga-Stats#all_stats_standard

 

The fbref visuals people show only include top 5 leagues and continental competitions. 

 

But fbref actually holds extensive data, from Opta, on most leagues. 

 

You can find Boving's entire career stats in great detail on fbref. 

 

https://fbref.com/en/players/731302dc/William-Boving

 

He is right though

 

Look at the page for all competitions - all his further in depth stats are missing except for European competitions

 

https://fbref.com/en/players/731302dc/all_comps/William-Boving-Stats---All-Competitions

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Posted
5 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

He is right though

 

Look at the page for all competitions - all his further in depth stats are missing except for European competitions

 

https://fbref.com/en/players/731302dc/all_comps/William-Boving-Stats---All-Competitions

 

There's absolutely a lack of detail on the smaller leagues, I'm not disputing that, or suggesting that fbref is the best site to use. 

 

I'm just saying it DOES have stats for the Austrian Bundesliga and the Danish league, including all of his goals and assists. 

 

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Posted
57 minutes ago, Pita said:

Looking like panic buys by Rudkin as usual. We are in a total mess 

Just the opposite for transfers out. We havent made any bad signings either yet.

Posted
18 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Please stop repeating this. 

 

https://fbref.com/en/comps/56/2024-2025/stats/2024-2025-Austrian-Bundesliga-Stats#all_stats_standard

 

The fbref visuals people show only include top 5 leagues and continental competitions. 

 

But fbref actually holds extensive data, from Opta, on most leagues. 

 

You can find Boving's entire career stats in great detail on fbref. 

 

https://fbref.com/en/players/731302dc/William-Boving

 

And that’s exactly what I’m pointing out, FBRef’s “Scouting Reports” will only show his Champions League data. 
 

You know full well for certain leagues that FBRef only do standard statistics. Plus these data websites have a habit of operating differently, Wyscout for example analyse their assist data differently to FBRef and others for example. 
 

DataMB gives you a better full scale picture, FBRef doesn’t do that for the Austrian Bundesliga for example. 
 

But of course everybody has their preferences and who they trust more, but I honestly wouldn’t bother using FBRef, I’d only use it for the leagues they give full scale reports on, like the European top five leagues and The Championship 👍🏻

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This is about 4th hand by the time it got to me so don't know how reliable it is but been told a number of our players have told the club they won't play for us again and it's pretty much the ones you would expect

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