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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Based on the logic that if we have struggled to comply for 24/25 we will be asked to submit a business plan on how we will comply for 25/26 and if we can't then a transfer embargo will likely be handed down to us.

 

I find it very hard to map out how we were told we had financial issues in 24/25, only to not sell any players before the end of June. So if we complied then great and hopefully limits any possibility we'll face troubles to do so for 25/26. Or if we have failed or it's touch and go then I foresee the EFL trying to hit us with an embargo.

The Swiss Ramble review claims we breached the maximum allowable loss by £14m, comparing the estimated PSR £97m loss with the £83m limit (two Premier League seasons at £35m plus one Championship season at £13m) for the 23/24 season

 

Looking at his working for them 22/23 and 23/34 season, we had around -40m head room after health deductions for the 24/25 PL season against the 83m limit, so we should be ok for 24/25. 

 

I think it tighter for this season, which is why we are offloaded higher earns like Vardy, Coady, Ndidi et al.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Leuven’s DOF sending over recommendations again ? 
 

24/25 Groin injury 43 days RSC Anderlecht6
23/24 Hamstring injury 48 days RSC Anderlecht7
22/23 Cruciate ligament tear 240 days RSC Anderlecht22
22/23 Knee injury 5 days RSC Anderlecht1
22/23 Ill 5 days RSC Anderlecht1
20/21 Ankle injury 75 days RSC Anderlecht15
19/20 Torn ligaments 60 days RSC Anderlecht7
 


that record is a worry…..?

In his defence, he’s absolutely bulletproof above the waist.

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Posted
1 hour ago, teblin said:

Wouldn't it be nice to have some positive news on a transfer front?

The fact our recruitment Team have not seemingly identified any signings, can be considered positive??

Posted
3 hours ago, Bablemikey said:

Lots of unsubstantiated speculation is fuelling some over the top reactions here. Calm down, and lets wait for some actual facts before we all get our panties twisted up in a bunch.


This is what happens in an information vacuum, it’s filled with speculation.

 

If the club actually communicated with their fans then maybe the doomsday scenario rumours wouldn’t take hold

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Posted
3 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:


This is what happens in an information vacuum, it’s filled with speculation.

 

If the club actually communicated with their fans then maybe the doomsday scenario rumours wouldn’t take hold

Or it would stoke the fires of discontent.

Posted
17 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:


This is what happens in an information vacuum, it’s filled with speculation.

 

If the club actually communicated with their fans then maybe the doomsday scenario rumours wouldn’t take hold

I think you're underestimating the potential for people to shit themselves regardless of the scenario.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Daka to Valencia according to FB.

 

No doubt he’ll miss the flight…

Nothing short of impossible to actually get someone who’s been as bad as him, on the money he’s got gone. A loan where we pay the wages is probably the only way 

Posted
17 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:

We’re somehow normalising The Board’s behaviour and blaming fans then though?? 
 

This is not normal.

 

Don't forget that 4 months ago we were relegated for the second time in 3 years, we’ve had 3 managers in a year, we’ve gone from signing £30m young talented players to selling anyone that we can…. And in that time the club have been silent, they’ve not communicated with their customers / fans / supporters at all.
 

There’s not a functioning elite sports team that treats the people that fund the business with the contempt that Top and Rudkin do. 
 

I can completely understand why we worry about the club’s future and assume the worst. Filling in the blanks where communication should occur is human nature. 
 

The leadership of the club is incompetent, lazy, inept, clueless, arrogant, and disinterested… it’s a very realistic scenario that we continue on the same path of failure and decline that they’ve overseen for the last 5+ years. 
 

With less money now at their disposal the decline may even accelerate. 

 How are we?

 

In my opinion, bitching and moaning on a forum is not some sort of affirmative action, and those who are seeking to enjoy the football despite the board, are not condoning them.

 

We are all fans, and we all see how far down the current regime has seen us fall, no amount of strongly worded posts, nor seeming indifference towards them, will expedite their departure.

 

They need to move on, and until they do such division will keep repeating itself, we just need tough it out as they will eventually move on.

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Posted
On 11/08/2025 at 19:23, Iwebema said:

 

 

We were 19m in losses last time in the championship despite selling over 100m of players.

I don’t know where you are getting these figures from but they are hugely wrong. That summer we sold £88m worth of players….. Maddison £37.5m, Barnes £38m, Castagne £11m & Hirst £1.5m.

 

However, Maddison was sold before the PSR deadline for the previous year so did not count towards the books that season, reducing the total sold to £50.5m.

 

We then spent a total of £30m that summer, leaving us with a net profit of £20m on player sales. Our losses also included the huge wages of Vards. 
 

We are currently around £25m net profit this summer, so in a very similar position to the end of that summer so we don’t have much wiggle room currently.

 

I personally expect the Bilal money to be reinvested. 

Posted
3 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

The Swiss Ramble review claims we breached the maximum allowable loss by £14m, comparing the estimated PSR £97m loss with the £83m limit (two Premier League seasons at £35m plus one Championship season at £13m) for the 23/24 season

 

Looking at his working for them 22/23 and 23/34 season, we had around -40m head room after health deductions for the 24/25 PL season against the 83m limit, so we should be ok for 24/25. 

 

I think it tighter for this season, which is why we are offloaded higher earns like Vardy, Coady, Ndidi et al.

 

 

 

 

 

Was the T-1 topic ever resolved out of interest? Apologies can’t remember… 

 

As in did we have 105m allowable losses or 83m for the last 3 year period? 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

I don’t know where you are getting these figures from but they are hugely wrong. That summer we sold £88m worth of players….. Maddison £37.5m, Barnes £38m, Castagne £11m & Hirst £1.5m.

 

However, Maddison was sold before the PSR deadline for the previous year so did not count towards the books that season, reducing the total sold to £50.5m.

 

We then spent a total of £30m that summer, leaving us with a net profit of £20m on player sales. Our losses also included the huge wages of Vards. 
 

We are currently around £25m net profit this summer, so in a very similar position to the end of that summer so we don’t have much wiggle room currently.

 

I personally expect the Bilal money to be reinvested. 

You've missed the KDH sale too that was in 23/24 and yet we still breached.

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

No, was included for 23/24.

Our wage bill was absolutely horrid that season too, losing Vards and selling Wilf & Coady has saved us around £250,000 a week on wages alone. That’s £13m a year saved in it self. 

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Posted
37 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

I don’t know where you are getting these figures from but they are hugely wrong. That summer we sold £88m worth of players….. Maddison £37.5m, Barnes £38m, Castagne £11m & Hirst £1.5m.

 

However, Maddison was sold before the PSR deadline for the previous year so did not count towards the books that season, reducing the total sold to £50.5m.

 

We then spent a total of £30m that summer, leaving us with a net profit of £20m on player sales. Our losses also included the huge wages of Vards. 
 

We are currently around £25m net profit this summer, so in a very similar position to the end of that summer so we don’t have much wiggle room currently.

 

I personally expect the Bilal money to be reinvested. 

I thought KDH was in that period aswell? If not then yes not as much, but still quite a big number with a net loss.

 

I'm just not sure we can invest that much, I think weve really messed up against PSR. 

 

22/23 - loss of 89m

23/24 - loss of 19m

24/25 TBC

 

But I thought because of the season in the championship we could only lose a total of £83m?

 

That said 89m drops off after this? So depending on what we did last season we might be fine going forward?

 

Apologies if any of that is wrong thats just how I understood it 👍

Posted
13 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

In the current PSR climate of top level football, this is another pretty dumb comment from someone having played through the football league 

Yeah all clubs should bend over and let the big boys have a go. 

Posted (edited)
28 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

In the current PSR climate of top level football, this is another pretty dumb comment from someone having played through the football league 

Why do these reporters still pretend that it’s the manager who comes up with their proposed sale valuation. Will have little to do with Will Still. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

Nothing short of impossible to actually get someone who’s been as bad as him, on the money he’s got gone. A loan where we pay the wages is probably the only way 

And we pay them a loan fee

Posted
2 hours ago, Iwebema said:

I thought KDH was in that period aswell? If not then yes not as much, but still quite a big number with a net loss.

 

I'm just not sure we can invest that much, I think weve really messed up against PSR. 

 

22/23 - loss of 89m

23/24 - loss of 19m

24/25 TBC

 

But I thought because of the season in the championship we could only lose a total of £83m?

 

That said 89m drops off after this? So depending on what we did last season we might be fine going forward?

 

Apologies if any of that is wrong thats just how I understood it 👍

No you was right, I wasn’t aware KDH fell in that financial period due to it being announced in July. 

Posted
7 hours ago, 5waller5 said:

We’re somehow normalising The Board’s behaviour and blaming fans then though?? 
 

This is not normal.

 

Don't forget that 4 months ago we were relegated for the second time in 3 years, we’ve had 3 managers in a year, we’ve gone from signing £30m young talented players to selling anyone that we can…. And in that time the club have been silent, they’ve not communicated with their customers / fans / supporters at all.
 

There’s not a functioning elite sports team that treats the people that fund the business with the contempt that Top and Rudkin do. 
 

I can completely understand why we worry about the club’s future and assume the worst. Filling in the blanks where communication should occur is human nature. 
 

The leadership of the club is incompetent, lazy, inept, clueless, arrogant, and disinterested… it’s a very realistic scenario that we continue on the same path of failure and decline that they’ve overseen for the last 5+ years. 
 

With less money now at their disposal the decline may even accelerate. 

Great post. This is often forgotten. This is a knock on of the clubs uniquely bad communication. I seriously question those who aren't questioning things.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Dan said:

I seriously question those who aren't questioning things.

I think many are questioning things, it's just that answers aren't forthcoming. As we all know the lack of communication and  transparency, added to the ineptitude and the ability to make the same errors over and over again is inexcusable.

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