Wymsey Posted 13 March 2023 Posted 13 March 2023 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11854781/West-Ham-Leicester-inserted-relegation-wage-cut-clauses-January-signings-contracts.html 1
Dan Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 4 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: The club captain is feeling "positive" after losing 4 in a row and sitting 2 points above the bottom. Vile. The rot is just so deep it's unbelievable. I think the fact he's not lost the dressing room is the problem now. We've allowed an absolute loser to mould everything to protect his own reputation. That's going to take some serious effort to turn around.
Deeg67 Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 52 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: The rot is just so deep it's unbelievable. I think the fact he's not lost the dressing room is the problem now. We've allowed an absolute loser to mould everything to protect his own reputation. That's going to take some serious effort to turn around. He’s lost part of the dressing room even if he hasn’t lost all of it. And in some ways that’s worse, because it divides the players into opposing factions. 2
Tom12345 Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: The rot is just so deep it's unbelievable. I think the fact he's not lost the dressing room is the problem now. We've allowed an absolute loser to mould everything to protect his own reputation. That's going to take some serious effort to turn around. Sad. If he hasn’t lost the dressing room, it probably means he has succeeded in drilling into the players that they are crap and he is the saviour. The never say die attitude is probably gone. I hope I am wrong though. You see in Evans’ eyes when he came on he was angry or at least not happy at the situation. I hope there is enough fire in the captain to get our mentality back on to the right track.
TonyN11 Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 Any of the bottom 9 could be in trouble. It's possible that 40 points won't guarantee survival.
TonyN11 Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 Brighton-Palace and Southampton-Brentford on Wednesday will be interesting 1
Popular Post Sampson Posted 14 March 2023 Popular Post Posted 14 March 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Sly said: The difference between a good Championship and Premiership team, is having those one or two players that make things happen. Obviously the more of those players you have the higher you’ll be. I’m going to state now, that we don’t have any players that would be guaranteed a start at either Manchester Club, Chelsea, Liverpool or Arsenal. I include Maddison in that, as he spends so much time injured, maybe it is time to cash in whilst we can. We’ve gone stale and that’s the issue. We’ve gone from having a team with players that could, to only having a few left and even then Ndidi and Soyuncu look a shadow of themselves. Couple that with the winding down of Vardys career and we’re just another bottom half Premier League team. Without a change in direction, we might not go today, we will do eventually. If you look at the players we’ve lost in the last 7 years, we’d have a brilliant team. Now look at the clubs around us, how many players from those squads push for starting spots at the big 6 or 7 clubs now. Us - Maybe Maddison Southampton - Ward Prowse - Maybe Everton - No one Leeds - No one West Ham - No one Bournemouth - No one Forest - Navas or Henderson maybe? Palace - No one Wolves - Neves The teams at the bottom of the league, are pretty all much of a muchness. Disagree. It’s our defence that’s the reason we’re down in a relegation scrap, not our attack. Maddison, Barnes and Iheanacho all have the ability to score and create goals from nothing and in fact we have the most goals from outside the area and have been really good this season at scoring while feeding off scraps. And we’ve comfortably scored the most goals in the bottom half of the league, including as many as Newcastle who are currently 5th. Our problem is our goalkeeper and defence are the worst in the division and concede 2 soft goals every game, meaning we have to score 3 to win, which is just unsustainable. Honestly, if we had a mediocre, run-of-the-mill PL goalkeeper and defence we’d probably be around where Brighton, Fulham and Brentford are this season. And Ward-Prowsse would be nowhere near a top 7 side, he’s half the player Maddison is. JWP is just a Championship footballer who is very good at free kicks Edited 14 March 2023 by Sampson 11
Alf Bentley Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 1 hour ago, TonyN11 said: Any of the bottom 9 could be in trouble. It's possible that 40 points won't guarantee survival. Your first point is undoubtedly true, but I disagree with your second point. For a team to go down on 40 points, 7 of the bottom 9 would have to win 5-6 of their remaining 11-12 matches. 2 or 3 struggling teams might manage that, but certainly not 7. Many of the bottom 9 will be playing one another and they'll all be playing some of the teams challenging for Europe etc. Plenty of defeats pending for the bottom 9. I reckon teams could well stay up on about 36 points. If so, we need to find about 4 wins - or about 3 wins and 3 draws. 1
LCFCCHRIS Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 Watching the best goals of 2014/15 video there looks like such a togetherness in that squad. Don't recall us celebrating with anywhere near the same intensity within the team for a long time.
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 17 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: The club captain is feeling "positive" after losing 4 in a row and sitting 2 points above the bottom. Vile. So we can assume you'd rather the club captain said he thinks everything's hopeless and he's feeling really down about it all? Behave. 1
Fox92 Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 17 hours ago, An Sionnach said: I think its a valid argument that if the majority of our players were in their best form , we are capable of pulling out of trouble because they have shown they have the quality to do that. However Rodgers seems incapable of raising them to that level , he is a poor motivator and his tactics are highly suspect. And that's the issue, form. Some of our players are not good enough which is why they are not consistent. But now, in a relegation battle especially, players shouldn't need motivating. They should be concerned of a relegation to their name.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 33 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: So we can assume you'd rather the club captain said he thinks everything's hopeless and he's feeling really down about it all? Behave. Tell it how it is, that's all I want. Sick of the spin. "Behave" 2
Guest Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 57 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: So we can assume you'd rather the club captain said he thinks everything's hopeless and he's feeling really down about it all? Behave. Obviously it's a PR exercise first and foremost but I think people are looking for an indication that there is at least someone at the club who is aware of the reality of the situation. So ideally no, not miserable despondency but also not the "just keep doing what we're doing and we'll be fine" complacent and obvious nonsense we're currently getting from manager and players alike.
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 56 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Tell it how it is, that's all I want. Sick of the spin. "Behave" I'm afraid spin is all there is. Player/manager interviews are an utter waste of everyone's time unless all you want is platitudes, coz platitudes is all you're going to get in them. If you expect something interesting or meaningful, I'm afraid you're always going to be disappointed. (The 'behave,' btw, was for your over the top 'vile,' and therefore justified, I reckon. Glad you enjoyed it though 😘) 1
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 18 hours ago, An Sionnach said: I think its a valid argument that if the majority of our players were in their best form , we are capable of pulling out of trouble Well yes, but if the majority of our players were in their best form, we'd be nowhere near in trouble in the first place!
Stuntman_Mike Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 3 hours ago, LCFCCHRIS said: Watching the best goals of 2014/15 video there looks like such a togetherness in that squad. Don't recall us celebrating with anywhere near the same intensity within the team for a long time. That's a great idea watching that back! I need some positive lcfc memories. They were great times
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 Just now, Stuntman_Mike said: That's a great idea watching that back! I need some positive lcfc memories. They were great times We live in the past We live in the past We're just like F****t We live in the past Gotta say, I think their living in the past seems fair enough to me now. I'll happily live in 2016 for the rest of my life.
Fox92 Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 20 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: I'm afraid spin is all there is. Player/manager interviews are an utter waste of everyone's time unless all you want is platitudes, coz platitudes is all you're going to get in them. If you expect something interesting or meaningful, I'm afraid you're always going to be disappointed. (The 'behave,' btw, was for your over the top 'vile,' and therefore justified, I reckon. Glad you enjoyed it though 😘) Exactly. I don't know why player and manager words are taken so serious. We were bottom under Pearson and he was still saying "believe". Nobody at the club is gonna come out and say we're rubbish, just like they didn't then. 1
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 41 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Exactly. I don't know why player and manager words are taken so serious. We were bottom under Pearson and he was still saying "believe". Nobody at the club is gonna come out and say we're rubbish, just like they didn't then. Shame though. It'd be hilarious to hear a player say "we're utter crap, we all hate each other, our fans are all w**kers and we're going down." 1
fox_up_north Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 1 hour ago, Fox92 said: Exactly. I don't know why player and manager words are taken so serious. We were bottom under Pearson and he was still saying "believe". Nobody at the club is gonna come out and say we're rubbish, just like they didn't then. Scott Parker says hi
HybridFox Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 Flicking to the Championship games tonight, I can't believe the club can sit back and be content with this
Corky Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 A lack of draws hasn't helped us- even another three only takes us to 12th but cuts the amount of defeats and losing runs. I don't think a point on Saturday is a bad result. 2
Popular Post Pliskin Posted 14 March 2023 Popular Post Posted 14 March 2023 6 hours ago, jonathan_ross said: We’ll be safe Were about as safe as a child at a crèche run by Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris. 5
coolhandfox Posted 14 March 2023 Posted 14 March 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Corky said: A lack of draws hasn't helped us- even another three only takes us to 12th but cuts the amount of defeats and losing runs. I don't think a point on Saturday is a bad result. 100% We have lost 9 games by the odd goal. Turn 4 or 5 of those into draws we have 29 points. Plus improved confidence. For me a decent keeper makes the difference. Edited 14 March 2023 by coolhandfox 3
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