Maddison for England analysis

[FraserS]

16 hours ago, justfoxes said:

I just don’t think that’s the reason really if it is Southgate is the biggest Cockwomble in football, the trouble is with Southgate he relies on the same old out of form top 6 players rather than players that are consistently inform and out performing those favourites of Southgate he just can’t ignore the quality of the stats these players out of the Top 6 are week in week out out performing the ones that should be no where near the England Squad ! 
 

Ivan Toney James Maddison Callum Wilson  to name a few are much better options than the usual Southgate failures who constantly fail to bring any tournament winning performances the same failures he picks every time ignoring the same quality players every time he picks an international squad !

 

The reason Jamie Vardy gave up International football he’d rather be with his family & concentrate on his club football rather than constantly being sat on the bench being ignored over out of form players who were misfiring both in league and international football, Southgate was naive in mismanaging Vardy who taken to Russia World Cup was kept on the bench rather than playing instead of a then misfiring Kane one of the reasons the FA should have changed Southgate long before we got to the World Cup, I can see us just make it out of our group but bound to be knocked out early & if we are he needs to be relieved of his management duties !

 

But even tho he’s not my favourite for England manager and haven’t got much faith in his managerial ability to win us a major trophy, reports are saying Tuchel wants the England job but I’d rather have a decent quality British manager !

 

 

 

I appreciate what you're saying but Kane finished top goalscorer in the 2018 World Cup so it wasn't unjustified

[justfoxes]

16 minutes ago, FraserS said:

I appreciate what you're saying but Kane finished top goalscorer in the 2018 World Cup so it wasn't unjustified

I think the form vardy was in that year he’d have scored more than Kane, I just feel Southgate doesn’t utilise the English talent to it’s capability he just keeps on playing the same old dross even tho he has better players to choose from !

[KingsX]

I’m glad he’ll be excluded from the 3 Lions shitshow of talent-wasting and tapping-up.  Not being selected should keep James highly motivated, while being selected and never playing (while the fake-news “casino incident” plays on repeat in the media) would be demotivating.

 

And meanwhile, you all will be stuck with The Waistcoat for the foreseeable.  Because you’ll walk that group *, and Qatar will buy off the refs to finish second and face England in the knockouts, giving you guys a typical Southgate Lay-Down into the quarters without playing anybody.  What a manager

 

* USA were utterly useless in our recent tune-up matches

[Corky]

Not being given a chance by Southgate this year is pathetic.

 

Fully deserved an opportunity.

 

 

 

 

[iancognito]

On 01/11/2022 at 17:26, David Hankey said:

If Maddison was at a so-called "top" club he'd be in the squad. It's as simple as that.

I'd normally entertain that but what about Gueye at Palace? They're hardly a big club. Tarkowski and Pope were getting picked whilst at Burnley. Justin was called up two squads ago. Ward-Prowse is a regular bench warmer

I heard Hoddle on Talkshite the other day saying that Maddison needs to get himself to a top 6 club and nearly smashed my phone off the desk. Why? Are the goals and assists he's racking up here invalid unless they're achieved elsewhere? He was playing and scoring in European football last season. The media will feed the bullshit about anyone beating anyone in the most competitive league in the world but that seems to count for nothing if all you need to do to be picked is be at a "top" club.

The "incident" in the casino was nearly 3 years ago & was minor compared to some of the shenanigans the rst of that squad have got up to. Sterling attacked his then girlfirend, Foden, Grealish, Henderson and Walker have all had their own issues, yet he never dropped any of them. I can't quite get my head around it but when Madders did his post-match interview with Sky after Forest you could tell he was desperate to be involved. He's got a kid & settled home life, is top of as many stats charts as you can be, there's nothing more he can do, at this stage you can only say it's a personal vendetta from a manager out of his depth.

[David Hankey]

1 minute ago, iancognito said:

I'd normally entertain that but what about Gueye at Palace? They're hardly a big club. Tarkowski and Pope were getting picked whilst at Burnley. Justin was called up two squads ago. Ward-Prowse is a regular bench warmer

I heard Hoddle on Talkshite the other day saying that Maddison needs to get himself to a top 6 club and nearly smashed my phone off the desk. Why? Are the goals and assists he's racking up here invalid unless they're achieved elsewhere? He was playing and scoring in European football last season. The media will feed the bullshit about anyone beating anyone in the most competitive league in the world but that seems to count for nothing if all you need to do to be picked is be at a "top" club.

The "incident" in the casino was nearly 3 years ago & was minor compared to some of the shenanigans the rst of that squad have got up to. Sterling attacked his then girlfirend, Foden, Grealish, Henderson and Walker have all had their own issues, yet he never dropped any of them. I can't quite get my head around it but when Madders did his post-match interview with Sky after Forest you could tell he was desperate to be involved. He's got a kid & settled home life, is top of as many stats charts as you can be, there's nothing more he can do, at this stage you can only say it's a personal vendetta from a manager out of his depth.

There will always be the odd exception, I accept that, but I still stand by what I said.

[Fear Of The Fox]

There's a serious chance another 5-6 players will be injured before the WC and Southgate will call Maddison... 

 

 

 

.. to tell him that he's chosen Plymouth's Morgan Whittaker for the position. 

[KFS]

I think he’s going to go. Him and JJ

[NewEnglandFox]

4 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

There's a serious chance another 5-6 players will be injured before the WC and Southgate will call Maddison... 

 

 

 

.. to tell him that he's chosen Plymouth's Morgan Whittaker for the position. 

[stretch1965]

3 hours ago, NewEnglandFox said:

Great film too

[Plastik Man]

16 hours ago, FraserS said:

I appreciate what you're saying but Kane finished top goalscorer in the 2018 World Cup so it wasn't unjustified

True, but 3 of his 6 goals were penalties, another deflected off him, and the other 2 were from close range in the first game v Tunisia.

[foxinsocks]

10 hours ago, Plastik Man said:

True, but 3 of his 6 goals were penalties, another deflected off him, and the other 2 were from close range in the first game v Tunisia.

Thats kane all over 

[coolhandfox]

I lost interest in England years ago.

 

Southgate has taken my interest in the national team to a all time low. 

[funkyrobot]

On 01/11/2022 at 17:39, Guest said:

There are plenty of criticisms you could level at Southgate but I don't think top club bias is really one of them. There are plenty of players who play for teams outside that bracket (or broke into the setup while doing so) that are regular fixtures in his squads and equally he is happy to not play, or leave out altogether, players like Smalling when he was at Man Utd and Alexander-Arnold.

Gareth definitely does favour players at big 6 clubs. Particularly in attacking roles.

[Tuna]

Can't see Maddison getting in the squad, although he absolutely deserves a shot.

Edited 4 November 2022 by Tuna

[lgfualol]

It makes too much sense for an attacking player in great form like him to be in the squad, therefore he wont go.

[cruzFOX]

Southgate is just a well spoken dressed up bell end. Lacks any real interesting personality and fills his pants the moment he comes up against a decent manager & team. In tournament football you always want to bring a wildcard. Ours would be madders. Italians had Chiesa in the euros (did pretty good!) now they have raspadori

 

 

[somebum]

I haven't watched an England game in years. 

[Mr Weller 2]

On 02/11/2022 at 04:15, ozleicester said:

and so we can assume the rest of the article is fake  news

How can it be fake news? It’s an opinion price? 

[Mr Weller 2]

41 minutes ago, somebum said:

I haven't watched an England game in years. 

Wow, that’s some commitment 

[Mr Weller 2]

45 minutes ago, cruzFOX said:

Southgate is just a well spoken dressed up bell end. Lacks any real interesting personality and fills his pants the moment he comes up against a decent manager & team. In tournament football you always want to bring a wildcard. Ours would be madders. Italians had Chiesa in the euros (did pretty good!) now they have raspadori

 

 

I know he has his faults but there’s no

need for personal abuse 

[Mr Weller 2]

8 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

Gareth definitely does favour players at big 6 clubs. Particularly in attacking roles.

But why would he do that? For sure there’s a tendency for all England managers to unconsciously look more at the top clubs but I don’t think Southgate is the worst offender by any means.

[ronnup]

He won't go, even if he did he wouldn't play. And this will be why he doesn't sign a new contract sadly 

[ozleicester]

32 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

How can it be fake news? It’s an opinion price? 

Its alright Gareth, was just a joke

[Mr Weller 2]

1 hour ago, ozleicester said:

Its alright Gareth, was just a joke

A real screamer