Rudkin

[FoxinNotts]

RUDDDDDKIIIIINNNNN !!!

[CL Fox]

1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

Percy is reliable but he doesnt have access to our payroll - it's all guesswork

Yeah we really need to see pension and NI contributions before we come to conclusions. Good point.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

12 hours ago, Daggers said:

MTWG's 1yr old daughter was looking very disinterested, if that helps?

 

My 1 year old daughter has never been more disillusioned with the club in her decade or so of following them home and away.

[Iwebema]

14 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Genuinely don’t know the answer to this but how long do directors of football generally stay in their roles? Can’t be 10 + years surely? 

This is a long post so brace yourselves....just having a look through all the premier league teams DOFs in recent years, just a mini snippet of each club. Not sure if it's useful! But I thought it was interesting 😅

The TLDR is quite simple good DOFs stay in for a long time or get head hunted to go elsewhere. Poor ones get moved on after a few years....

Bournemouth - Richard Hughes 8 years, after successfully establishing them in the premier league has now gone to Liverpool and Simon Francis has taken over from this season

Arsenal - 2019 they appointed Edu in various roles, he's largely been attributed for helping them finally get to grips with the post Wenger years. Moving on to something with the dodgy forest owner now, this is his last season.

Villa - Monchi, I think most know about his long term success with sevilla as sporting director, was there about 19 years? Been with villa for 2 years now and in most people opinions has taken the club to the next level.

Brentford - Phil Giles couldn't find the exact date quickly, but in the region of a decade in the role and has been a key part of their rise up the football pyramid.

Brighton - Currently David Weir but took over from Dan Ashworth who went to Newcastle after 4 years with brighton, ashworth was quite key in building on their "model" (buy young and cheap from lesser known teams and supplement with older experienced players, milner, lallana, welbeck etc) he was with brighton from 2018 after leaving a role in the FA national set up. On to Weir they've still largely been a success but there have been a few decisions recently that have put the spot light on him.

Chelsea - David Barnard he's been with the club for over 20 years in various technical/sporting roles, was the only member of the back office to survive the takeover in 2022 and was appointed DoF, they also have paul winstanley since the takeover. Its difficult to judge pre 2022 performance given they had the ambramovich years pre heavy PSR etc. But certainly a bit chaotic since, but the ownership are very much that!

Palace - Dougie Freedman has been in the role since 2017, quite up and down, I think he started poorly with managers like Vieira etc. But has since turned it around with Glasner. The one thing he is praised for is building a good scouting and player recruitment, if you look at the wingers they signed, either to compliment or replace zaha - olise, eze and now esse, it highlights a style, forward thinking strategy, they would be top of the list for someone like Poku at Peterborough

Everton - Kevin Thewell only been in since 2022. Has had a very eclectic career I wouldn't say he fills you full of confidence, wolves to New York Red bull, previous academy director at wolves 👀

Previous to that the had Marcel Brand from 2018 who was terrible and they moved him on and our very famous Steve Walsh 2 years before that where he was sacked for recommending spending 150m on players and Everton were still in a  relegation battle (it is noted that he did recommend other players like Andy Robertson and haaland but the board said no)

Fulham - Tony Kahn the owners son, been in position since 2017, reading around alot of Fulham fans consider him to have been quite poor up until very recently, he made alot of bad decisions and was active on social media calling players out, his background is in American sports and wrestling so he was never going to be a quiet one...football wise hes heavily into data and analytics, I think in honesty he would of been sacked 3 years in if he wasn't the owners son, sky sports and BBC pundits said he should of been sacked for the poor job he's done. However the last couple of years it looks like he's learnt alot from his mistakes and got it together a bit more.

Ipswich - Gary Probert took over in 2021 after 8 years as the Bristol city academy director, been a very pivitol figure in their rise with Mckenna.
Before that it looks like they had Dave Bowman who has links to Mick Mccarthy, went from Ipswich to Cardiff with Mick  safe to say he's not very good and has been moved on quickly everywhere he's been, at least in recent times anyway.

Liverpool - as mentioned they took the Bournemouth DOF because of the great work he's done. Whilst we can appreciate they are a well run club in recent years, interesting to see all those contract issues....

Man city - txiki begiristain not much to be said, been there 13 years won it all, hard not to given the money!

Man united - Jason Wilcox and previous Dan Ashworth, I mean they are just a basket case of a club, they are run very similar to us but they just have alot more money to throw away in mistake after mistake. Ashworth obviously well respected got out quickly. Good luck to wilcox.

Newcastle - As we know took Ashworth from Brighton, was successful and got head hunted by man united and probably wishes he never left! They now have Paul Mitchell who has an interesting mixed bag of a career, was a key part of the recruiting team from southampton in 2012 (the potch lead one with mane etc) he then went with Potch to spurs and did a great job where they almost won a title, but finished 3rd in a two horse race. Spent the last few years at Monaco rebuilding them. Good track record essentially well respected and actively head hunted.

Forest - Ross Wilson been there since 2023, quite a poor track record, was at Rangers before and was blamed for alot of the issues, poor recruitment poor management. You could argue his approach with forest has been similarly chaotic, but for now, this season at least it's worked. But they had to break PSR to get there and do alot of dodgy deals with Lyon...trying to not be bitter 😅

Spurs - Johan Lange since 2023 was credited with overall good recruitment at Villa but he had some expensive misses which ultimately led to villa thinking they could do better and bought in Monchi.
Difficult to judge lange atm, especially given its levy and spurs....before him was paritici who again head hunted because he was good, had a successfulish 2 years with spurs, bought in Conte etc. But got banned for 3 years from football for a capital gains issue

West ham - they just paid 1m to bring in potters guy...previously they had Tim Stedhein who joined in 2023 after a good run with leverkuesen and bremen so has a track record, but it hasn't worked out he had a falling out with lopetengui. The owners thought it best to move stedhein on and bring in the guy potter wanted especially given stedhein had overseen loptenguis disastrous appointment.

Wolves - matt hobbs has been in since 2022, jury is still out on him I think, has been with wolves since 2015 in a number of roles, they definitely took a cheap easy option, previous to that was Scott sellars who was very poor and was removed after a few years of under performance and a bad transfer record....

Edited 3 February by Iwebema

[Daggers]

[Foxin_Mad]

Transfer him out of the club to save money, useless ****. Noone would notice if he wasn't here. 

[Tuna]

Never mind

Edited 3 February by Tuna

[Iwebema]

Just now, Tuna said:

David Wierd

Probably should of proof read that. At least you know I'm not an AI bot...or am I 🤖

[Tuna]

Just now, Iwebema said:

Probably should of proof read that. At least you know I'm not an AI bot...or am I 🤖

Deleted though as you've gone to a lot of effort to post all that

[jonny_wright]

I think we’d all respect him more if he came on and communicated what’s going on…. This radio silence for me is horrendous 

[GLC]

I felt it was time to update this 

[HitchinFox]

1 hour ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Transfer him out of the club to save money, useless ****. Noone would notice if he wasn't here. 

To be fair, we'd probably notice it through an improvement in performances on and off the pitch – more stable finances, a general mood lift around the place and, most importantly, a better quality playing squad. 

[Mapperleyfox]

So the sum total of his output having had 6 months to prepare for this window is a last ditch swap deal for Craig Dawson? That alone should see him collecting his P45 in the morning. What does he spend his working days doing? Why is he not being held accountable for what is unfolding as a systematic dismantling of our squad? 

If i were him i'd stay away from the ground next week for his own safety.

[Silva Fox]

8 minutes ago, tickler28 said:

Well last season was positive all be it in the division below. This season and the season 2022/23 were not. Before then it was 8th, 5th (FA Cup win), 5th, 9th, 9th, 12th (European Quarter final) and 1st.

I'm not just talking about league position. @moore_94 excellently summed up just a selection of examples going back to 17/18!

 

On 02/02/2025 at 11:53, moore_94 said:

There has usually always been something every season that makes him look like a clown - what else have I missed?

 

Also when you actually look at how much we have spent on players that have then been able to leave for free in the last 4-5 years... £213m!!

 

17/18

Adrien Silva - 14 seconds late

 

18/19

Danny Ward - £12m on a backup keeper

 

19/20

Ryan Bennett - only signing in January on deadline day whilst fighting for Champions League

 

20/21

Islam Slimani left for free (cost £28m)

Adrien Silva released by mutual consent (cost 22m)

 

21/22

Jannick Vestergaard

Ryan Bertrand

We genuinely signed half of the defence we stuck 9 past previously

Filip Benkovic released by mutual consent (cost £13m)

 

22/23

Sold Kasper

Fofana dragged on until the end of the window

Only signed Wout Faes

Unable to sign Lookman

1 permanent first team signing and 0 loans in

Finally decided to spend in January and spent it on shite and a fake Brazilian

Rodgers in charge for WAY too long

 

23/24

£107m worth of players left for free

Tielemans left for free (cost £40m)

Soyuncu left for free (cost £19m)

Amartey left for free (cost £5m)

Perez left for free (cost £30m)

Mendy left for free (cost £13m)

Had to sell Maddison and Barnes under their value

Conor Coady 3 year contract

 

24/25

Hired Steve Cooper

Had to sell KDH who didn't want to leave

Iheanacho left for free (cost £25m)

Praet left for free (cost £18m)

De-Cordova Reid - 3 year contract

Jordan Ayew - 2 year contract + £5m

Oliver Skipp - £20m - bench player

Caleb Okoli - £13m - bench player that might leave already

Odsonne Edouard - loan with no option to terminate and apparently expensive loan fee/wages covered

As of 2nd February whilst under serious threat of relegation again we have only signed 1 player - a back up right back for £2m

 

[coolhandfox]

He is the sort of guy, you'd offer him the asking price for his house he would say no.

 

Offer him 20k over he will say no because he thinks it is worth even more.

 

Just because you want it. 

[Gravel]

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, “The DOF knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.”

[fox_favourite]

6 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

RUDDDDDKIIIIINNNNN !!!

You need to shout it louder. He's in a pub somewhere away from here, or a stripper club

[whoareyaaa]

6 hours ago, Iwebema said:

This is a long post so brace yourselves....just having a look through all the premier league teams DOFs in recent years, just a mini snippet of each club. Not sure if it's useful! But I thought it was interesting 😅

The TLDR is quite simple good DOFs stay in for a long time or get head hunted to go elsewhere. Poor ones get moved on after a few years....

Bournemouth - Richard Hughes 8 years, after successfully establishing them in the premier league has now gone to Liverpool and Simon Francis has taken over from this season

Arsenal - 2019 they appointed Edu in various roles, he's largely been attributed for helping them finally get to grips with the post Wenger years. Moving on to something with the dodgy forest owner now, this is his last season.

Villa - Monchi, I think most know about his long term success with sevilla as sporting director, was there about 19 years? Been with villa for 2 years now and in most people opinions has taken the club to the next level.

Brentford - Phil Giles couldn't find the exact date quickly, but in the region of a decade in the role and has been a key part of their rise up the football pyramid.

Brighton - Currently David Weir but took over from Dan Ashworth who went to Newcastle after 4 years with brighton, ashworth was quite key in building on their "model" (buy young and cheap from lesser known teams and supplement with older experienced players, milner, lallana, welbeck etc) he was with brighton from 2018 after leaving a role in the FA national set up. On to Weir they've still largely been a success but there have been a few decisions recently that have put the spot light on him.

Chelsea - David Barnard he's been with the club for over 20 years in various technical/sporting roles, was the only member of the back office to survive the takeover in 2022 and was appointed DoF, they also have paul winstanley since the takeover. Its difficult to judge pre 2022 performance given they had the ambramovich years pre heavy PSR etc. But certainly a bit chaotic since, but the ownership are very much that!

Palace - Dougie Freedman has been in the role since 2017, quite up and down, I think he started poorly with managers like Vieira etc. But has since turned it around with Glasner. The one thing he is praised for is building a good scouting and player recruitment, if you look at the wingers they signed, either to compliment or replace zaha - olise, eze and now esse, it highlights a style, forward thinking strategy, they would be top of the list for someone like Poku at Peterborough

Everton - Kevin Thewell only been in since 2022. Has had a very eclectic career I wouldn't say he fills you full of confidence, wolves to New York Red bull, previous academy director at wolves 👀

Previous to that the had Marcel Brand from 2018 who was terrible and they moved him on and our very famous Steve Walsh 2 years before that where he was sacked for recommending spending 150m on players and Everton were still in a  relegation battle (it is noted that he did recommend other players like Andy Robertson and haaland but the board said no)

Fulham - Tony Kahn the owners son, been in position since 2017, reading around alot of Fulham fans consider him to have been quite poor up until very recently, he made alot of bad decisions and was active on social media calling players out, his background is in American sports and wrestling so he was never going to be a quiet one...football wise hes heavily into data and analytics, I think in honesty he would of been sacked 3 years in if he wasn't the owners son, sky sports and BBC pundits said he should of been sacked for the poor job he's done. However the last couple of years it looks like he's learnt alot from his mistakes and got it together a bit more.

Ipswich - Gary Probert took over in 2021 after 8 years as the Bristol city academy director, been a very pivitol figure in their rise with Mckenna.
Before that it looks like they had Dave Bowman who has links to Mick Mccarthy, went from Ipswich to Cardiff with Mick  safe to say he's not very good and has been moved on quickly everywhere he's been, at least in recent times anyway.

Liverpool - as mentioned they took the Bournemouth DOF because of the great work he's done. Whilst we can appreciate they are a well run club in recent years, interesting to see all those contract issues....

Man city - txiki begiristain not much to be said, been there 13 years won it all, hard not to given the money!

Man united - Jason Wilcox and previous Dan Ashworth, I mean they are just a basket case of a club, they are run very similar to us but they just have alot more money to throw away in mistake after mistake. Ashworth obviously well respected got out quickly. Good luck to wilcox.

Newcastle - As we know took Ashworth from Brighton, was successful and got head hunted by man united and probably wishes he never left! They now have Paul Mitchell who has an interesting mixed bag of a career, was a key part of the recruiting team from southampton in 2012 (the potch lead one with mane etc) he then went with Potch to spurs and did a great job where they almost won a title, but finished 3rd in a two horse race. Spent the last few years at Monaco rebuilding them. Good track record essentially well respected and actively head hunted.

Forest - Ross Wilson been there since 2023, quite a poor track record, was at Rangers before and was blamed for alot of the issues, poor recruitment poor management. You could argue his approach with forest has been similarly chaotic, but for now, this season at least it's worked. But they had to break PSR to get there and do alot of dodgy deals with Lyon...trying to not be bitter 😅

Spurs - Johan Lange since 2023 was credited with overall good recruitment at Villa but he had some expensive misses which ultimately led to villa thinking they could do better and bought in Monchi.
Difficult to judge lange atm, especially given its levy and spurs....before him was paritici who again head hunted because he was good, had a successfulish 2 years with spurs, bought in Conte etc. But got banned for 3 years from football for a capital gains issue

West ham - they just paid 1m to bring in potters guy...previously they had Tim Stedhein who joined in 2023 after a good run with leverkuesen and bremen so has a track record, but it hasn't worked out he had a falling out with lopetengui. The owners thought it best to move stedhein on and bring in the guy potter wanted especially given stedhein had overseen loptenguis disastrous appointment.

Wolves - matt hobbs has been in since 2022, jury is still out on him I think, has been with wolves since 2015 in a number of roles, they definitely took a cheap easy option, previous to that was Scott sellars who was very poor and was removed after a few years of under performance and a bad transfer record....

Leicester - John Rudkin used to manage the youth team has no idea what he is doing, also helps out with the horses now and then, managed to sign a player 14 seconds after the deadline.

[Foxin_Mad]

He's a ****ing absolute first class moron, this transfer window is an example. The whole lot need to get gone now, it's a shambles of a football club. He just has no clue how to operate in a world of professionals. Every single club has strengthened, added fresh faces, we are the same stale sack of shit Championship willy pullers like Faes and Vestegaard. We may as well shove the R by our name right now. We don't deserve to be a Premier League team for having such an amature setup, even half the championship is better than us. We'd better hope Rudd stays as noone else will want to work for these clueless morons.

 

At least when we were run by the Shipmans or Matin George, you knew where we were, and there was some semblance of competancy.

Edited 3 February by Foxin_Mad

[Beachyboy]

Have we turned down £8-£10 mil for Kasey Mcateer? Bizarre he isn't of the standard we need for at least the next 18 months regardless of the division we are in next season, get some money in and sign a player that can help in the next 3 months!!

[Daggers]

22 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

You need to shout it louder. He's in a pub somewhere away from here, or a stripper club

You really think he's that interesting?

 

I'd bet it's more likely he's sitting in Lidl counting the number of bananas.

[HankMarvin]

Edited 3 February by HankMarvin

[dbtcity]

3 windows in a row we’ve ended up weaker than when it began  

[JimmyC74]

Rinse and repeat. Why should we be surprised.
 

Thing is, as awful as we have been we are not totally cut off, but failing to trade this window to address any of the weaknesses in our first xi means we are pretty certain to be relegated.

 

And next season won’t be a cake walk / immediate promotion.

 

 

[filbertway]

5 hours ago, jonny_wright said:

I think we’d all respect him more if he came on and communicated what’s going on…. This radio silence for me is horrendous 

I can only imagine i would respect him less if he opened his mouth