The Run In...

[Lambert09]

i’m a little bit worried smith looks at the better second half and thinks that the players involved all deserve to play the next game. Ordinarily that might be correct but surely everyone could see that it was them resting rather than us improving. 

 

if that’s the game that people decide kristiansen deserves dropping for thomas than we a going to end up hugely disappointed 
 

Not that there aren’t lessons to be learnt but you just have to be rational about it. The drop in intensity from them was drastic. if they wanted to they would have scored another 3. It’s not me being pessimistic, just real about what the situation was. 

 

All i know is that wilf and vardy need dropping if we want a chance at winning. I still think vardy has a fairytale ending to his story with us… but it has to come from the bench now. 

 

 

Edited 17 April 2023 by Lambert09

[Legend_in_blue]

Do Leeds and we'll stay up imo.  They're in massive trouble.  

[Conscript Fox]

10 hours ago, daddylonglegs said:

I wouldn't even be thinking about Leeds as part of the relegation picture. It's gone from 9 teams at the international break who could go down, to it now being 4 (5 at a push...)

 

Southampton & Forest are done. It's us or Everton for me!

Well didn't this age well

They have now conceded 11 in 180 minutes & 16 in the last 4 games.

 

Get ahead of them & they'll shatter. They're already folding. 

 

Southampton 

Leeds

Forest or Leicester will drop. 

[Daggers]

23 hours ago, elvisfmcfly said:

How on EARTH are we in a position where Bournemouth are 8 points clear and more or less going to be safe and we are 2nd bottom, there is literally no excuse anyone can offer up for this scenario.I honestly believe if any other manager was brought in a lot sooner any other manager at all we would be safe.I can't wait for Rodgers to get another job and eventually the same thing will happen and this time he wont be able to pull the wool over any of his sheeps eyes. Rodgers is a fraud shepherd.

“…bUt WhO wOuLd RePlAcE hIm?”

 

I blame them for this as well.

[elvisfmcfly]

23 hours ago, chapero82 said:

I was watching a Glen Johnson earlier about him when Rodgers took over, and he was saying how when he went to Liverpool he was just saying the exact same that Mourinho was saying at Chelsea whilst him and Glen Johnson were there  

More evidence of Fraudulence. 

[Aus Fox]

1 hour ago, Conscript Fox said:

Well didn't this age well

They have now conceded 11 in 180 minutes & 16 in the last 4 games.

 

Get ahead of them & they'll shatter. They're already folding. 

 

Southampton 

Leeds

Forest or Leicester will drop. 

Got to add Everton into that and I still don’t think we can rule out West Ham. 
 

6 points separate  5 teams (19 - 15) I wouldn’t be surprised if any of those teams lost everyone of their last 7. 
All 5 have at some point this season had a run of 4/5 good results on the bounce too. 
 

Just for fun and very unrealistic, but Chelsea are still only on 39 points and still have to play all of the current top 4 and Brentford. They won’t go down, but I’d love to see them start looking over their shoulders.

 

 

[Conscript Fox]

14 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Got to add Everton into that and I still don’t think we can rule out West Ham. 
 

6 points separate  5 teams (19 - 15) I wouldn’t be surprised if any of those teams lost everyone of their last 7. 
All 5 have at some point this season had a run of 4/5 good results on the bounce too. 
 

Just for fun and very unrealistic, but Chelsea are still only on 39 points and still have to play all of the current top 4 and Brentford. They won’t go down, but I’d love to see them start looking over their shoulders.

 

 

FatFrankie doing post matches with relegation as a subject would be pure popcorn. 

 

Be great to see Chelsea twitch a bit. 

[Dan]

13 hours ago, AKCJ said:

I think if we get out of the relegation zone this weekend then we'll stay out of it. If we don't then I think we're in trouble. 

 

Wolves are a weird team though. I can't remember the last time we genuinely outplayed them. Even in October when we beat them 4-0 it didn't really sum up the game. 

 

During our current stay in the Premier League, we've only beaten them by more than one goal once at the King Power. Interestingly though, they've not scored a single goal at the King Power in that time.

 

Record reads;

 

Aug 18 - Leicester 2-0 Wolves

Jan 19 - Wolves 4-3 Leicester

Aug 19 - Leicester 0-0 Wolves

Feb 20 - Wolves 0-0 Leicester

Nov 20 - Leicester 1-0 Wolves 

Feb 21 - Wolves 0-0 Leicester

Aug 21 - Leicester 1-0 Wolves

Feb 22 - Wolves 2-1 Leicester

Oct 22 - Wolves 0-4 Leicester

 

Record reads well for us but I just can never shake the feeling that we never play well against Wolves.

It's often a horrible cagey game but we tend to get quite lucky against them. The games in bold we were second best on every occasion and didn't even let in a goal (which sort of sums them up, they're toothless and don't score many).

 

The 0-4 was a bit of a freak game as well.

Edited 18 April 2023 by Dan LCFC

[LCFCJohn]

5 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

i’m a little bit worried smith looks at the better second half and thinks that the players involved all deserve to play the next game. Ordinarily that might be correct but surely everyone could see that it was them resting rather than us improving. 

 

if that’s the game that people decide kristiansen deserves dropping for thomas than we a going to end up hugely disappointed 
 

Not that there aren’t lessons to be learnt but you just have to be rational about it. The drop in intensity from them was drastic. if they wanted to they would have scored another 3. It’s not me being pessimistic, just real about what the situation was. 

 

All i know is that wilf and vardy need dropping if we want a chance at winning. I still think vardy has a fairytale ending to his story with us… but it has to come from the bench now. 

 

 

See I’m not overly concerned about this. For me, it’s been about the mentality of the squad more so than quality. Regardless of whether or not Man City dropped off, the side of this season so far under Rodgers would have still conspired to concede a few more or best case scenario, kept it tight and at 3. The fact we went at them, pulled one back and had further good chances showed a more positive mind set which is the main thing we need in the coming games.

 

Also, I don’t watch Man City ever (unless against us) as I can’t stand watching them. But they tend to get into that sort of position at home most games really so I’d imagine that dropping off in the second half is a more regular occurrence than we think. In which case the fact we caused them problems more so than most teams who have gone there is a positive. 

[RowlattsFox]

Leeds confidence must be drained but no doubt we will suddenly make them look great again next week. 

[Sly]

We need 9 - 12 points from the next four games. It’s as brutal as that. 

[FoxFossil]

Bournemouth loss means, unfortunately, we are done. 

[Nalis]

Bournemouth's 33 points could be enough even as it is.

 

They play the teams around us though so them not to be at the beach would be helpful.

[melvinmmelvin]

 As we know, Foxes currently have the best Goal Difference of the bottom 7 in the Prem.

 

Obvs, there are matches still to play, but if we can hang on (and ignoring Middlesborough's 1997 points deduction), LCFC have a GD which is as good as (Blackburn 1999), or better than, anyone relegated from the Prem since 1995-6 when it became 20 teams (i.e. at the time those teams were relegated).

 

Not to state the obvious, it's our paucity of wins and record of losses this season that lets us down.

[ClaphamFox]

25 minutes ago, FoxFossil said:

Bournemouth loss means, unfortunately, we are done. 

It really doesn’t. We have a good chance of finishing above both Everton and Leeds, which is why the bookies only have us at around evens for relegation. 
 

But if telling yourself we’re done is just your way of coping, fair enough. 

[honeybradger]

51 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

It really doesn’t. We have a good chance of finishing above both Everton and Leeds, which is why the bookies only have us at around evens for relegation. 
 

But if telling yourself we’re done is just your way of coping, fair enough. 

We have to gain 4 points on Leeds with only 28 left to play for. Considering we're looking to get 10-12 points maximum from our final games they're not out of the picture just yet but it's close.

 

Realistically Everton are our only hope.

Edited 18 April 2023 by honeybradger

[Chelmofox]

7 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

i’m a little bit worried smith looks at the better second half and thinks that the players involved all deserve to play the next game. Ordinarily that might be correct but surely everyone could see that it was them resting rather than us improving. 

 

if that’s the game that people decide kristiansen deserves dropping for thomas than we a going to end up hugely disappointed 
 

Not that there aren’t lessons to be learnt but you just have to be rational about it. The drop in intensity from them was drastic. if they wanted to they would have scored another 3. It’s not me being pessimistic, just real about what the situation was. 

 

All i know is that wilf and vardy need dropping if we want a chance at winning. I still think vardy has a fairytale ending to his story with us… but it has to come from the bench now. 

Watch Smiths post match interview as he makes this point exactly. He said he needed to analyse whether or not Man C's changes led to our improvements. Personally, Thomas looked better than he had for a while, and i'm not sure that one change would have a huge impact as Victor looked out of sorts. Although i think he will stick with Victor. Key points will be elsewhere on the pitch.

[ClaphamFox]

11 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

We have to gain 4 points on Leeds with only 28 left to play for. Considering we're looking to get 10-12 points maximum from our final games they're not out of the picture just yet but it's close.

 

Realistically Everton are our only hope.

Have you seen Leeds play recently? They’ve completely disintegrated - their confidence is shot to pieces. Their run-in is harder than ours, too. If they don’t beat us next Tuesday, they’re in massive trouble; if we win that game, we’ll very likely finish above them. 

[teblin]

For me we have to get at least 9 points from these next 4 games to stand a chance. Saturday is absolutely massive, for belief and confidence we need to get any type of win, but like the West Ham one 8 years ago.

Edited 18 April 2023 by teblin

[J. James]

The game on saturday will genuinely tell us everything.

A "good performance" without 3 points and we are done, Man city told us a bit but given that they went into training mode not a great deal.

 

Earlier in his awful season, fight and unbiased (and sane) team selection would have kept us clear of this brawl but now l dont think fight and spirit is enough, we need to be playing to our strengths but our squad has been physically weakened and mentally dismantled by the fraud and l fear it's way too late now.

The coulda, woulda, shoulda talk about previous pathetic performances is utterly pointless because we learnt nothing and repeated the same mistakes.

 

Have we learnt now?

 

Saturday will tell all.

[AKCJ]

2 hours ago, Sly said:

We need 9 - 12 points from the next four games. It’s as brutal as that. 

It isn't.

 

Provided we don't lose against Leeds I think 8-10 points from our next 7 will keep us up. The teams at the bottom are absolutely honking.

[WarehamFox]

6 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

It isn't.

 

Provided we don't lose against Leeds I think 8-10 points from our next 7 will keep us up. The teams at the bottom are absolutely honking.

We’re at the bottom 😀

[AKCJ]

2 minutes ago, WarehamFox said:

We’re at the bottom 😀

...and we're honking  

[honeybradger]

30 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Have you seen Leeds play recently? They’ve completely disintegrated - their confidence is shot to pieces. Their run-in is harder than ours, too. If they don’t beat us next Tuesday, they’re in massive trouble; if we win that game, we’ll very likely finish above them. 

You could say the same for us, yes Leeds lost 1-6 against a Liverpool side who are playing at 100% in all their games to try and regain some confidence. Man City on the other hand used our match as an opportunity to get some rest before the Bayern Munich midweek match, if they were in the same situation as liverpool they would have blown us out equally as much if not more.

 

Also I think beating leeds with our team as it is is a big 'if', we havent won a game in over 2 months. Outside of that game their fixtures arent worse enough than ours to suggest that we can confidently pick up 4 points more than them and finish above them. Current i would say it's 80% likely that leeds finish above us.

[Scotch]

I think Forest are all but down, barring some sort of miracle run of form. Palace, Arsenal, Chelsea, Brentford, Liverpool and Brighton still to play. What's more is that they play them in an order where most of those teams will still have something to play for when the games come. 

 

Obviously, as far as we are concerned, every game is important. We need to win 3 or so games of our final 7 but Everton is the big one for me. 

Everton still have to play, us, Palace, Newcastle and Brighton and make sure they beat Wolves and Bournmouth. If we can beat them, they will need a few big upsets.