Koke Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May Nobody will win the league until Pep leaves. Or unless an exceptional coach like Klopp arrives, and even he managed just 1 PL tittie in 8 years. Pep got a stranglehold on this league. Arteta is amazing and Arsenal have been unbelievably good but Pep is a juggernaut that cannot be beaten. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 1 minute ago, Koke said: Nobody will win the league until Pep leaves. Or unless an exceptional coach like Klopp arrives, and even he managed just 1 PL tittie in 8 years. Pep got a stranglehold on this league. Arteta is amazing and Arsenal have been unbelievably good but Pep is a juggernaut that cannot be beaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May Just now, StanSP said: Pellegrini was the manager of Man City when we won it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May Just now, Koke said: Pellegrini was the manager of Man City when we won it I know. But Ranieri can be the one that brings Pep down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 1 minute ago, Koke said: Nobody will win the league until Pep leaves. Or unless an exceptional coach like Klopp arrives, and even he managed just 1 PL tittie in 8 years. Pep got a stranglehold on this league. Arteta is amazing and Arsenal have been unbelievably good but Pep is a juggernaut that cannot be beaten. agree with this, the only way is some how the Prem / UEFA or who ever gets their act together and rocks City a bit. But until then they will just keep getting stronger. Look at the players they moved on last season and they are still going to win the league. The crazy thing is they will be even stronger next year, they rarely miss when it comes to new signings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 12 hours ago, Corky said: Emery got it done. That is an elite coach. Aware I've got an agenda here but I can't help feel Villa have been massively helped by the lack of chasing pack. For comparison here's our stats from similar seasons taking the last 12 games of the season. LCFC 19/20: 13 points (a big collapse i'll give you) LCFC 21/22: 17 points AVFC 23/24: 16 points (albeit with a game to go) Think the important comparator in those season is in 19/20 we had a Man Utd team that we're near perfect with 28 points (Chelsea similar) and in 20/21 Liverpool took 26 points. Villa have been fortunate Spurs have been as poor as them with 17 points. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 22 minutes ago, Koke said: Nobody will win the league until Pep leaves. Or unless an exceptional coach like Klopp arrives, and even he managed just 1 PL tittie in 8 years. Pep got a stranglehold on this league. Arteta is amazing and Arsenal have been unbelievably good but Pep is a juggernaut that cannot be beaten. I can't see anybody touching Pep. Klopp would have won the league multiple times had Pep not been at Man City. To think Liverpool finished on 97 points and didn't even win the league, it's incredible. Pep will win 5 league titles in a row next season which, again, is incredible. Arteta has done well over two seasons, especially this season, to get close but Man City are relentless. Shame, as I'd like to have seen Arsenal win it but I appreciate how good of a manager Pep is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 20 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Aware I've got an agenda here but I can't help feel Villa have been massively helped by the lack of chasing pack. For comparison here's our stats from similar seasons taking the last 12 games of the season. LCFC 19/20: 13 points (a big collapse i'll give you) LCFC 21/22: 17 points AVFC 23/24: 16 points (albeit with a game to go) Think the important comparator in those season is in 19/20 we had a Man Utd team that we're near perfect with 28 points (Chelsea similar) and in 20/21 Liverpool took 26 points. Villa have been fortunate Spurs have been as poor as them with 17 points. We finished on 66 points in 20/21 and 62 points in 19/20. Aston Villa already got 68 points with 1 game left. I think Villa fans are unnecessarily obnoxious but they've definitely delivered and deserve their praise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May When Klopp leaves it may take them years to get another decent Manager- look at Man U after Fergie. the same goes for when Pep finally leaves. Advantage to Arsenal as they have done amazing in getting Arteta after Wenger left and in only having Emery in between - It could have taken them many years to find a decent replacement. How many failed managers have Man U have since fergie left? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 2 minutes ago, Koke said: We finished on 66 points in 20/21 and 62 points in 19/20. Aston Villa already got 68 points with 1 game left. I think Villa fans are unnecessarily obnoxious but they've definitely delivered and deserve their praise. Really wouldn't surprise me if they lost to Palace as they're flying. Yep you're right the overall points total is better and you can't knock that but I'm referring specifically to the points being made that 'they've seen it through' and Emery is a genius, and Rodgers a prat - for a quarter of the season they've been as crap as we were largely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 28 minutes ago, Raj said: When Klopp leaves it may take them years to get another decent Manager- look at Man U after Fergie. the same goes for when Pep finally leaves. Advantage to Arsenal as they have done amazing in getting Arteta after Wenger left and in only having Emery in between - It could have taken them many years to find a decent replacement. How many failed managers have Man U have since fergie left? could you see Arteta being tempted by Man City when Pep goes?? That job is hard to turn down for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 39 minutes ago, Koke said: We finished on 66 points in 20/21 and 62 points in 19/20. Aston Villa already got 68 points with 1 game left. I think Villa fans are unnecessarily obnoxious but they've definitely delivered and deserve their praise. Points totals badly skewed this season as the division is utter dog muck at the bottom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobyfox1990 Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 42 minutes ago, Raj said: When Klopp leaves it may take them years to get another decent Manager- look at Man U after Fergie. the same goes for when Pep finally leaves. Advantage to Arsenal as they have done amazing in getting Arteta after Wenger left and in only having Emery in between - It could have taken them many years to find a decent replacement. How many failed managers have Man U have since fergie left? Man Utd are a completely failed business, held together by a superstar CEO who had control and gravitas over all the operations. Once he leaves, no one knows what to do, as we've seen. Liverpool and Man City appear to be very well run businesses, can imagine the infrastructure is there for another manager to slot in and maintain standards. Much like Brighton for example 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 16 minutes ago, goose2010 said: could you see Arteta being tempted by Man City when Pep goes?? That job is hard to turn down for anyone. Would defo be a good challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 47 minutes ago, goose2010 said: could you see Arteta being tempted by Man City when Pep goes?? That job is hard to turn down for anyone. Rodgers would fancy his chances of landing that job I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 1 hour ago, CosbehFox said: Points totals badly skewed this season as the division is utter dog muck at the bottom For comparison - bottom 4 by season points total: 19/20: 124 20/21: 116 23/24: 99 (inclusive of Forest's 4 point deduction) It's even worse if i just did the bottom 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May Villa have done very well. The top 4 is very hard to break into and has barely been done over the last 30 years. But it's also been a season where Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea have all faltered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller Wing Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 17 hours ago, trabuch said: But was not gone. It's tragic. Not totally gone but very close and would've taken a few freak results to turn it into Spur's favour. As someone else mentioned, CL for Spurs is hardly a new adventure and they lost to arguably the best club side in world football. They had a go and with a bit better finishing, might have got the result to take it to week 38. They didn't, and the fact its probably saved them for months/years of torture from their bitter rivals, makes it ok for all the many Spurs supporters I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 15 May Author Share Posted 15 May 6 hours ago, Raj said: When Klopp leaves it may take them years to get another decent Manager- look at Man U after Fergie. the same goes for when Pep finally leaves. Advantage to Arsenal as they have done amazing in getting Arteta after Wenger left and in only having Emery in between - It could have taken them many years to find a decent replacement. How many failed managers have Man U have since fergie left? Top 4 next season could easily be Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May Still not having it that this is a compelling title race. Man City have been behind once in eight games or something and regularly hit four goals. Barely any jeopardy. They do have previous for nearly buggering up routine last day home matches but cannot see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May 17 hours ago, HybridFox said: Fair play to Villa though. Yes they've had a bit of luck along the way but shown resilience to get over the line unlike our bottlejobs under Brendan Emery is a class manager, makes you think clubs like Man Utd and Chelsea would be licking their wounds over looking the Spaniard. Difference between Emery and Rodgers, Emery sets his sides to play with a high standard at all times, if the team put in a poor performance but still won he would get them in training early to work on the problems. Rodgers was too much like we won who cares and constantly clapping the players for poor effort. Rodgers is two faced arsehole, who loves the steal the lime light when the team do well, but will blame the players when it goes wrong. Whilst Emery likes to keep out the lime light win, lose or draw. Villa will get stronger next season I think and may put together a title challenge. Could have been us if we acted quicker instead sticking with Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May Do Sky really have to inflict this Man Utd side upon us again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May I want a 6-0 Newcastle win, it to rain heavily again and flood their crumbling stadium and Ineos to announce at full time that they've changed their mind and are buying Reading FC instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May Atrocious from Trippier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 15 May Share Posted 15 May Trippier doing his best Casemiro impression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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