bovril Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 Just now, Zear0 said: I mean you could create a whole thread with these
Foxdiamond Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 16 minutes ago, Osavo said: What a load of utter nonsense Yes, it's shocking that they got the decision wrong given the access to technology. But throughout the history of football referees have got decisions wrong, that doesn't mean we replay the match afterwards when we realise. I also personally demand a replay of our away tie at Atletico in 2017. Oh, and the Cardiff play off semi-final whilst you're at it. Agree with this. I think we had a good goal ruled out for offside in 1949 Cup Final. Need to get on to Wolves to replay that too
Nalis Posted 4 October 2023 Author Posted 4 October 2023 Asking for the match to be replayed is a bit rich coming from the manager who complains the most about fixture congestion. 1 1
Osavo Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 28 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Asking for a replay is nonsense but the issue is we have VAR now, we didn't have it back then for those games. As I said before it's swings and roundabouts. There will be a game later in the season where a decision goes in the favour of Liverpool. Oh I totally agree, as I acknowledged. It's shambolic that the incorrect decision was made given technology is in place to deal with these incidents. VAR is clearly not fit for purpose, especially the way it is being implemented currently in the PL and needs a serious review. Personally, I would get rid altogether but that's a wholly different debate. My point was that mistakes have always been made refereeing, and all VAR is is a higher quality (allegedly) application of the rules. When it and its operatives make an error fixtures shouldn't be replayed, just as they shouldn't be, and never have been, when a human referee makes a mistake. I suspect Klopp doesn't truly believe what he's saying however. Imagine he's just kicking up as much of a fuss to give himself and Liverpool some credit to leverage in future against the PL. 1
goose2010 Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 not being funny but if they didnt replay that Villa game where they forgot to turn the goal line technology on then they aint replaying anything.
David Hankey Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 Let's, from now on, have every game replayed where VAR makes a mistake which are not rectified at the time. My God, the season will be going on for 12 months. They'll be no time for League, European or FA cup matches. What a bloody farce!!
David Hankey Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 I just wonder how Klopp would feel if the boot were on the other foot and his opponents fell foul of VAR? He'd be as quiet as a church mouse.
Corky Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 Wouldn't voiding the game conveniently get two red cards cancelled, too?
StanSP Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 Brighton vs Liverpool on Sunday. In what minute do Liverpool get a blatantly obvious decision go in favour them incorrectly...?
CosbehFox Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 33 minutes ago, Corky said: Wouldn't voiding the game conveniently get two red cards cancelled, too? Naa. Abandoned/replayed games, the cards stand 1
BKLFox Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 32 minutes ago, Corky said: Wouldn't voiding the game conveniently get two red cards cancelled, too? talking of which, i'm so glad that the Jones Red was upheld as i had a nasty suspicion that the appeals committee were going to take 1 for the team & rule it out
dsr-burnley Posted 4 October 2023 Posted 4 October 2023 2 hours ago, Corky said: Wouldn't voiding the game conveniently get two red cards cancelled, too? Surely Mr Klopp is claiming that the replayed game will be 10 v 11? Well, perhaps not!
Popular Post The Bear Posted 4 October 2023 Popular Post Posted 4 October 2023 Wolves social media rightfully sticking the boot in. 1 5
Popular Post StanSP Posted 5 October 2023 Popular Post Posted 5 October 2023 So Darren England now won't do any Liverpool games this season. How long before no refs are able to do a Liverpool game because they didn't like how a decision went? Last season it was Paul Tierney, this season Darren England. How do Liverpool get to choose who officiates them in future? Anthony Taylor is regularly lambasted by Chelsea and their fans for still getting their games after dubious errors. But he still continues? Liverpool have far too much power to be able to dictate things like this. 13
surrifox Posted 5 October 2023 Posted 5 October 2023 5 hours ago, StanSP said: So Darren England now won't do any Liverpool games this season. How long before no refs are able to do a Liverpool game because they didn't like how a decision went? Last season it was Paul Tierney, this season Darren England. How do Liverpool get to choose who officiates them in future? Anthony Taylor is regularly lambasted by Chelsea and their fans for still getting their games after dubious errors. But he still continues? Liverpool have far too much power to be able to dictate things like this. Taylor is an excellent ref IMO , one of our best . Chelsea fans are ignorant scrotes and deserve all they get I agree with your point about Liverpool though
Wortho Posted 5 October 2023 Posted 5 October 2023 All Liverpool have to do is pull out the victim card. They’re the media darlings and they get everything in their favour. Like they never benefit from VAR.
MPH Posted 5 October 2023 Posted 5 October 2023 (edited) Can anyone help me? Need a new Facebook password. I tried ' manunitedsdefence' but Facebook says it's too weak.... Edited 5 October 2023 by MPH
Samilktray Posted 5 October 2023 Posted 5 October 2023 1 hour ago, MPH said: Can anyone help me? Need a new Facebook password. I tried ' manunitedsdefence' but Facebook says it's too weak.... 1 1
MPH Posted 5 October 2023 Posted 5 October 2023 16 minutes ago, Samilktray said: that one is too long…
Wymsey Posted 5 October 2023 Posted 5 October 2023 Short clips, yes, but found the Wenger one the funniest. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/66880993
BKLFox Posted 5 October 2023 Posted 5 October 2023 1 hour ago, Wymsey said: Short clips, yes, but found the Wenger one the funniest. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/66880993 Fergie jumping from the popping balloon every time 😂
Wortho Posted 6 October 2023 Posted 6 October 2023 On 04/10/2023 at 14:21, bovril said: I mean you could create a whole thread with these I forgot all about that… the ball hit Morgan’s head but the ref said it was his hand. Another decision goes the dippers way.
Les-TA-Jon Posted 6 October 2023 Posted 6 October 2023 On 04/10/2023 at 13:59, Zear0 said: It isn't and that's my irritation with the whole affair. As you say, is the VAR mucking up any different to the ref mucking up? Not great being aided by tech, but they're the same as far as I'm concerned. At least they've dropped that bizarre, "they were in UAE recently, therefore it was blatant corruption" angle. On 04/10/2023 at 13:59, CosbehFox said: ''Something like this never happened, so that is why I think a replay is the right thing to do," Is he kidding? There are literally hundreds upon hundreds of officiating mistakes made - those which are not subjective but there's no calls to replay games. On 04/10/2023 at 14:07, Osavo said: What a load of utter nonsense Yes, it's shocking that they got the decision wrong given the access to technology. But throughout the history of football referees have got decisions wrong, that doesn't mean we replay the match afterwards when we realise. I also personally demand a replay of our away tie at Atletico in 2017. Oh, and the Cardiff play off semi-final whilst you're at it. I totally disagree with the idea of a replay. But to be fair to Klopp this Diaz offside incident is unprecedented. This wasn't simply a 'bad' or 'wrong' decision... It's not like the VAR saw footage that was clearly onside and then made a terrible decision to say it was offside. VAR made the correct decision to say it was onside, it's just that the combination of them thinking the onfield decision was also onside + poor communication, which resulted in a perfectly good goal being chalked off. Is there another example of a perfectly good goal being ruled out, based on procedure not decisions?
Zear0 Posted 6 October 2023 Posted 6 October 2023 6 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: I totally disagree with the idea of a replay. But to be fair to Klopp this Diaz offside incident is unprecedented. This wasn't simply a 'bad' or 'wrong' decision... It's not like the VAR saw footage that was clearly onside and then made a terrible decision to say it was offside. VAR made the correct decision to say it was onside, it's just that the combination of them thinking the onfield decision was also onside + poor communication, which resulted in a perfectly good goal being chalked off. Is there another example of a perfectly good goal being ruled out, based on procedure not decisions? Guess a more accurate equivalence was when they forgot to turn on Hawkeye in the Villa Shef Utd game a few years ago.
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