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Les-TA-Jon

In terms of underperformance, Leicester City in 22/23 is one of the worst Premier League relegations of all time

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Very good summary. I really think it's probably the worst and I think the moves the players get off the back of it will raise even more questions. I think because we were the upcomer and not historically as big as the likes of Everton it goes a bit under the radar quite how bad it is. I also think the fact Chelsea have had probably their worst season too in the same year overshadows it.

 

To me it would be like Brighton having another 2/3 years like this, winning a couple of trophies within that and then just getting relegated like that. Yet again though because it's only Brighton it wouldn't get the stick it deserves. I think given how long the idea of us going down was ridiculed we should be getting proportionate criticism off the back of it.

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7 minutes ago, Father Ted said:

No it’s not! Remember we have been overachieving, as Rodgers continually kept telling us. And don’t forget we were in League One 13 years ago so therefore we are still overachieving.

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1 minute ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

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That is absolutely satire, another person absolutely tired of mouth breathers like Lineker and the "Perspective" lot, who ironically, are the ones lacking any kind of perspective of the situation.

 

You and @The Doctor are always good for some statistical posts :D 

 

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11 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

While I get this comment really hurts right now, it has nothing to do with our relegation. 
 

The PL did nothing which our owner, his board didnt. It’s self inflicted, entirely. 

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1 minute ago, shailen said:

It's definitely the worst when you consider this squad finished 5th, 5th and 8th in the three seasons before. The West Ham squad were talented in 02/03 but imo we are miles ahead of that team with players in their prime. 

 

What has happened here is a travesty and I think real questions need to be asked of Rodgers, the board, Top and the players for how it got to this stage. 

Yeah this whole thing came about because all season I've been saying conversationally 'If we go down, surely it's got to be one of the worst ever relegations' - so I did the analysis and it turns out that you can quantify that and, yep, we're right up there. 

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Royal cock up. We don't deserve to come back up, either. With greater distance from it, I'm now just annoyed at the leadership. This is YOUR money, not mine. How can you let it happen? 

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My big concern is that with the money from the prem already accounted for to pay for the loan, the transfer funds will have to come from sales mostly to prem clubs that operate on a slower time scale ( later season start & holding out knowing the urgency) which will inevitably impact on the early season and rebuild.  

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I wonder if this gets in Whealan and Rudkin's end of season review.

 

I suspect Rudkin will say but this just proves that we'll bounce straight back.

 

It's shocking Top, Rudkin and the fans let this go on for so long.

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1 minute ago, Foxxed said:

I wonder if this gets in Whealan and Rudkin's end of season review.

 

I suspect Rudkin will say but this just proves that we'll bounce straight back.

 

It's shocking Top, Rudkin and the fans let this go on for so long.

Surely no one at the club can seriously think we can bounce straight back? 

 

We've got 2 months to appoint a manager, a whole new coaching team, and probably 15-20 players going in and out of the club. It's way too much change at once, the club has already lost tons of income, now compounded by relegation, most of the parachute payment will be swallowed up by loans being called.

 

And this is a club that had 2 terrible summer windows in a row. I'm not confident. There's more chance of us going down next season than being promoted.

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The potential value of this squad was nuts. In 2020 or 2021 Maddison, Ndidi, Barnes, Tielemans and Soyuncu alone could have reached £200m. The talent we possessed is ridiculous, Barnes and Maddison had 33 goals & assists between them, Wolves' whole squad had 40.

 

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1 minute ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Surely no one at the club can seriously think we can bounce straight back? 

 

We've got 2 months to appoint a manager, a whole new coaching team, and probably 15-20 players going in and out of the club. It's way too much change at once, the club has already lost tons of income, now compounded by relegation, most of the parachute payment will be swallowed up by loans being called.

 

And this is a club that had 2 terrible summer windows in a row. I'm not confident. There's more chance of us going down next season than being promoted.

With Rudkin overseeing Brendan's destruction and Top doing nothing, I'm not relying on sensible, hard-headed thinking from either of them until I see evidence to the contrary. Perhaps Whelan will bang some heads together but then she's not involved with the footballing side so who knows. The board give me little reason to be optimistic.

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1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said:

Very good summary. I really think it's probably the worst and I think the moves the players get off the back of it will raise even more questions. I think because we were the upcomer and not historically as big as the likes of Everton it goes a bit under the radar quite how bad it is. I also think the fact Chelsea have had probably their worst season too in the same year overshadows it.

 

To me it would be like Brighton having another 2/3 years like this, winning a couple of trophies within that and then just getting relegated like that. Yet again though because it's only Brighton it wouldn't get the stick it deserves. I think given how long the idea of us going down was ridiculed we should be getting proportionate criticism off the back of it.

But I think they'd also have to be on the champions League, have the 7th biggest wage bill etc. Plus they're a smaller club than us.

 

That's not to say that I don't agree with what you're getting at as the perception of them won't shift when they fail but I'd be staggered if anyone even comes close to the abject failure of this season.

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Classic case of complacency and believing we are too good to go down by the club and players.

 

Like Stoke (8 years in PL ), Fulham (13 years), and Blackburn (11 years) we made the mistake of seeing ourselves as an established PL force and stopped doing the right things and got lazy.

 

Being in the PL is not a right. You have to earn it. 

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11 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Classic case of complacency and believing we are too good to go down by the club and players.

 

Like Stoke (8 years in PL ), Fulham (13 years), and Blackburn (11 years) we made the mistake of seeing ourselves as an established PL force and stopped doing the right things and got lazy.

 

Being in the PL is not a right. You have to earn it. 

It's incompetence rather than laziness imo.

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3 minutes ago, Stadt said:

It's incompetence rather than laziness imo.

Laziness or overconfidence can be a common cause of incompetence in the workplace. 

 

But I think we could think of loads of negative words that fit. 

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I know we, as human beings, are always curious to find new ways of showing the same information, or how to portray it in a different light. Kinda done with this now. 

 

We massively underachieved, we know. We will be having a mass exodus this summer, we know. We have been relegated, we ****ing know. Enough with the analysis, telling us things we already know!

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Well...

 

We are where we are.

 

Great analysis though.  Without going into details however, knowing that all 3 promoted sides also finished above us this season proves how inept Rodgers has been.  

 

Although I'm not sure inept is the word, I reserve that for the likes of Taylor and Hollowhead.

 

I think negligent fits Rodgers better, and for that alone he is the worst manager ever to be in charge of the club imo.  Negligence of the highest order.

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