Callum Doyle

[Scotch]

Just now, Ed 1 said:

Apologies if this has already been addressed but is it still max 2 x loans from one club in EFL?

 

Slightly disappointed if it is as I guess Steffen would complete our quota from Man City. 

Think someone said its four but 2 of them have to be over a certain age. 

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

Loan is better than nothing. Frees up money for another deal too.

 

Makes me wonder if Faes might be heading out on a loan, ready to play for us again if we get back to the Prem. I'm sure he'd be better in a settled defence after a proper pre-season, but I wouldn't be arsed if he left permanently.

[Guest glasgowfox]

22 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

People was saying how great it would be with Enzo because we will be able to get some decent loans in now you're all moaning  

Brilliant mate

[Ric Flair]

13 minutes ago, Scotch said:

Think someone said its four but 2 of them have to be over a certain age. 

It's 4 but at least 2 have to be under 21. All 4 can be under 21 I think.

[Ric Flair]

They were open to selling him this summer, think this tells us what we need to know about our finances. Annoying, but it is what it is. Don't mind a few loans.

[K789]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

They were open to selling him this summer, think this tells us what we need to know about our finances. Annoying, but it is what it is. Don't mind a few loans.

Guess we just aren't managing to shift players

[Wink]

10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

They were open to selling him this summer, think this tells us what we need to know about our finances. Annoying, but it is what it is. Don't mind a few loans.

Perhaps this indicates we are trying to push through Barnes deal as we need the extra cash to rebuild?

[Hamilton Fox]

4 minutes ago, Wink said:

Perhaps this indicates we are trying to push through Barnes deal as we need the extra cash to rebuild?

Or we are only loaning so we don’t need to sell Barnes…

Edited 11 July 2023 by Hamilton Fox

[fox_favourite]

13 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

They were open to selling him this summer, think this tells us what we need to know about our finances. Annoying, but it is what it is. Don't mind a few loans.

Maybe this isn't a priority for the cash, but he's a good player to replace Evans/Faes. 

 

I think we'll invest in attacking players 

[Fox seen in Norwich]

23 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Loan is better than nothing. Frees up money for another deal too.

 

Makes me wonder if Faes might be heading out on a loan, ready to play for us again if we get back to the Prem. I'm sure he'd be better in a settled defence after a proper pre-season, but I wouldn't be arsed if he left permanently.

We’ve lost Evans, soyuncu and Amartey from last season, not convinced Vesty will be back in the squad either.

 

So if we get Doyle we still need at least 1 more CB, if not 2 more

 

acknowLedges We may promote a youth or 2, but even then wouldn’t let Faes go

[lgfualol]

Cheap and cheerful

[indierich06]

Just now, Hamilton Fox said:

Or we are only loaning so we don’t need to sell Barnes…

Or so we can buy Borges 👀

[Bert]

46 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

People was saying how great it would be with Enzo because we will be able to get some decent loans in now you're all moaning  

Welcome to Foxestalk 

[Bert]

11 minutes ago, Wink said:

Perhaps this indicates we are trying to push through Barnes deal as we need the extra cash to rebuild?

Disagree massively. 
 

We’d have brought him if we could. The fact there’s no option to buy suggests Man City don’t want to sell. 

[STEVIE B]

The main objective is to get promoted this coming season.

If the Doyle deal is a loan & we achieve our goal, I'm sure him going back to Man City will soon be forgotten. 

We have to accept what his parent club offer. We obviously want him, so we have to compromise. 

[Wink]

4 minutes ago, Bert said:

Disagree massively. 
 

We’d have brought him if we could. The fact there’s no option to buy suggests Man City don’t want to sell. 

Perhaps. Although none of us really know what we have to play with, we're just speculating. 

[st albans fox]

To all those saying that a loan frees up cash 

 

If the fee is ten mill and it’s a five year contract then that is £2m/annum onto our ffp 

 

I’m guessing the loan fee will be around £2m for the season 

I think this says more about either Man City not wanting to sell the player or the two clubs not being able to come to an agreement on fee and potential buyback structure - contracted till 2027!

 

Edited 11 July 2023 by st albans fox

[sacreblueits442]

On 09/07/2023 at 22:02, Scotch said:

I don't understand the reaction some have to information that doesn't pan out or even the information that's nonsense. Just because someone says something, doesn't mean you have to buy into it. 

 

I've only ever gotten pissed off with such information. 1 time when someone was urging people to bet on their info. That's too far. 

2 the lad who was demanding thanks for his information (that was utter b0llux) about us talking to Martin O'Neil about taking over. That just wound me up. 

...if you claim to be ITK, then you are stating that the information imparted is valid and will come to fruition!!!

It is a big responsibility to take on, most will hang on your every word and would be right to do so because he has stated the information to be true. Things do happen and change during negotiation between clubs, we have to understand that and make allowance for this.

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

19 minutes ago, Fox seen in Norwich said:

We’ve lost Evans, soyuncu and Amartey from last season, not convinced Vesty will be back in the squad either.

 

So if we get Doyle we still need at least 1 more CB, if not 2 more

 

acknowLedges We may promote a youth or 2, but even then wouldn’t let Faes go

I think it'll be more Faes wanting out than us wanting to sell him.

 

But if we don't sell, Doyle will join Coady, Souttar, Faes, Vestegaard & Nelson as CBs and Justin & Castagne can play in a back 3 too. Ndidi and Hamza can do a job there too, if needed.

 

I wouldn't be against more CBs, but until we move some of those on I'd prioritise attacking midfielders and maybe a keeper. Which makes me think adding a defender is pre-empting some of the above leaving - probably the two Belgians.

 

Edited 11 July 2023 by LeePhilpottsBaldSpot

[RowlattsFox]

Why would Man City put an option to buy in if they actually rate him and plan to keep him? 

[lcfc sheff]

if all goes well we'd try and get him if we go up anyways. This just means we've got some money to buy hopefully some attacking players.

[Finnegan]

40 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

They were open to selling him this summer, think this tells us what we need to know about our finances. Annoying, but it is what it is. Don't mind a few loans.

 

16 minutes ago, Bert said:

Disagree massively. 
 

We’d have brought him if we could. The fact there’s no option to buy suggests Man City don’t want to sell. 

 

Gotta side with Bert on this unless you've concrete evidence to the contrary, Ric. Doesn't make sense that there wouldn't at least be an option if they were content to sell.

[FosseSpark]

I think a defence of Ricardo Coady Souttar Doyle Justin with Kristiansen and Thomas in reserve would have been superior to what we fielded last year!

[Gerard]

2 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Just had a look and Burnley didn't get an option to buy when they loaned Harwood-Bellis from Man City last season either

 

Had a really good season with them and he is now available to buy permanently this summer (although he is also down to the last year of his contract, Doyle has until 2027)

 

Hopefully a permanent deal can be looked at next summer

 

Not a lot of upside in "Option to buy" for the selling club, it's usually reserved for players you want to get rid who have little room for improvement of like Praet, Ghezzal, etc

 

It's disappointing to not buy this lad but giving us an option to buy isn't good business for Man City as he could be the best defender by a street in this division and we have already agreed a price or if he was terrible we just send him on his way.  

[Lee Monty]

Just a quick reminder before we get too excited our previous loans from man city haven't gone always as we would have hoped, Ryan Mcgiven, Ben Mee and Michael Johnson 👀