Harry Winks

[Will1981]

needs dropping nowhere near good enough defensively his passing has gone downhill fast and he gets a nose bleed whenever he crosses the halfway line.

[eblair]

Thought had very good 2nd half; struggled with no one to pass to. Bar Faes and Hernansen; none of our defensive 7 players wanted to touch the ball

[iancognito]

Worst game in a City shirt by far. Couldn't find a pass, couldn't retain possession, doesn't look comfortable in this set up

[martyn]

Awful first half, much better 2nd when he decided to impose himself on the game. Just a shame his last 2 contributions were terrible balls into the box.

[JimJams]

What happened with him at Spurs will happen with him here.  Almost exactly.  He was good for Spurs when they played a style that suited him, but with a change of manager and the emergence of Skipp he lost his place.  The whole thing is repeating almost to the letter.  With the exception being we won't replace Skipp as well, but Cooper is not playing to get the best out of Winks and his system, if you can call it that, will be better with Skipp in instead in the long run.

[cropstonfox]

20 minutes ago, JimJams said:

What happened with him at Spurs will happen with him here.  Almost exactly.  He was good for Spurs when they played a style that suited him, but with a change of manager and the emergence of Skipp he lost his place.  The whole thing is repeating almost to the letter.  With the exception being we won't replace Skipp as well, but Cooper is not playing to get the best out of Winks and his system, if you can call it that, will be better with Skipp in instead in the long run.

Spot on.Winks is Top end championship. 

[honeybradger]

He did so well for us in the Championship because he always had 2-3 options to pass to because of Maresca's system. Under Cooper every player is isolated and it's impacting Winks more than anyone.

[FoxTimmy2]

1 minute ago, honeybradger said:

He did so well for us in the Championship because he always had 2-3 options to pass to because of Maresca's system. Under Cooper every player is isolated and it's impacting Winks more than anyone.

Under Cooper it's every man for himself .

[Corky]

15 hours ago, honeybradger said:

He did so well for us in the Championship because he always had 2-3 options to pass to because of Maresca's system. Under Cooper every player is isolated and it's impacting Winks more than anyone.

Exactly. He had Ricardo next to him, Dewsbury-Hall and Ndidi just ahead, Mavididi and Fatawu out wide, Vestergaard playing into him. Three of those options have seemingly gone and the wingers are one in, one out at present.

[Grebfromgrebland]

This is why we need winks and Skipp sat at the base of the midfield. They both need an outlet.

 

 

[DZ-LCFC]

Can we speak about harry ?

 

he's been horrible 

[The Doctor]

the man is a metronome, he's reliant on getting the ball and being able to pick out runners ahead of him. Invaluable to have, but you need runners ahead otherwise it's like playing with 10. he's being killed by Coopers anti-football perversions 

[Jabbaranks]

Is it really a surprise??? He was never good enough for Spurs, and no other Prem clubs came in for him. He's a quality Championship player and no more and I feel he was massively overrated last season. 

 

 

[SecretPro]

Just now, The Doctor said:

the man is a metronome, he's reliant on getting the ball and being able to pick out runners ahead of him. Invaluable to have, but you need runners ahead otherwise it's like playing with 10. he's being killed by Coopers anti-football perversions 

100%

[Ryy]

He’s been terrible but it’s on Cooper under a better coach he thrives 

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, DZ-LCFC said:

Can we speak about harry ?

 

he's been horrible 

I think teams have worked out that winks is our metronome 

championship sides couldn’t afford to push onto him but PL sides can do that. He’s clearly not coping well with being pressed continually 

[moore_94]

Very poor for their 2nd goal

 

Just asleep watching Trossard jog into the box in front of him into space for a shot

[Tuna]

Skipp, ndidi and winks will score no goals, play two but not three

[HoustonFox]

Needs a break next game. He’s become invisible 

[funkyrobot]

Winks is suited to the single pivot role, the team are better suited to it. In a double pivot it’s just not working. He looks frustrated, he’s losing the ball regularly and the game’s passing him by. Him and Skipp look static together and it’s no better when he’s paired with Ndidi. Our number 10 options ahead that the double pivot enables (Ndidi 👀, Buonanotte or EL) despite great endeavour aren’t really the creative game changers at this level that make a double defensive pivot effective IMO. Maybe in the future the two youngsters will, but it’s a big ask at the moment. I’ve not seen anything yet that indicates Winks has a grasp of the role he’s meant to be doing behind. He looks bewildered and frustrated. 

[Tommy G]

What other premier league team would he start regularly apart from us? There’s your answer. 

[Muzzy_no7]

1 hour ago, Ryy said:

He’s been terrible but it’s on Cooper under a better coach he thrives 

This.

 

We have so little of the ball, even against Everton..no wonder he’s below par. 

[Muzzy_no7]

3 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

What other premier league team would he start regularly apart from us? There’s your answer. 

Ipswich. Wolves. Southampton. Brentford. Everton. 

[Clever Fox]

1 hour ago, moore_94 said:

Very poor for their 2nd goal

 

Just asleep watching Trossard jog into the box in front of him into space for a shot

He was also at fault for the first goal, Not chasing back to cover. He let the scorer run past him to score.

 

He needs a talking too and bring back his confidence.

[Iwebema]

The one thing you could never criticise winks for last season was effort, the amount of times he was sprinting back and diving in to tackles.

That goal today tells you something isn't right. This isn't the winks we know