Harry Winks

[Fox92]

Criticism in the KDH thread but nothing in here when Winks was poor yet again.

 

Fed up of it now. For a player who's job, I presume, is to win the ball and pass it, he doesn't half give the ball away a lot.

Edited 13 April by Fox92

[Dr The Singh]

I dont know any player that yas really stepped up in the last 11 matches to be fair.  All have been gash.

[ronnup]

No competition for his place 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Just now, ronnup said:

No competition for his place 

Agreed. That was a problem under Rodger’s wasn’t it, and contributed to the general malaise and staleness all over the pitch.

[Fox92]

Just now, ronnup said:

No competition for his place 

For me, N'didi needs playing where Winks is and then we can play an actual attack minded midfielder where N'didi is now. Not that we have that but perhaps the best we can offer is Praet, if the manager doesn't want to play two strikers.

[Langston]

Turned into the caucasian Nampalys Mendy since that **** up against Watford.

[Claridge]

5 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Criticism in the KDH thread but nothing in here when Winks was poor yet again.

 

Fed up of it now. For a player who's job, I presume, is to win the ball and pass it, he doesn't half give the ball away a lot.

doesnt step up when needed. mind you in this dreadful system he doesn't seem to have a defined role

[nettle]

I really don't think Winks is the problem we've been worked out unfortunately and Maresca won't change a thing. The players are over coached and being stifled same as when Rodgers was here.

[Richmondfox]

21 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Criticism in the KDH thread but nothing in here when Winks was poor yet again.

 

Fed up of it now. For a player who's job, I presume, is to win the ball and pass it, he doesn't half give the ball away a lot.

I blame him and Ricardo as much as the useless defenders.  They are the ones stinking everything out and slowing it down.  Winks and Ricardo being Faes into play in the areas where KDH, Fatawu or Mavadidi. 

 

He follows the tactics to a tee, always telling everyone to slow it down, slows down most counter attacks to wait for the opposition to come so him and Ricardo can piss around, over play and eventually passing back to the cbs to lose. 

Doyle got hooked for being progressive and bypassing Vestagards blast into a crowded midfield. 

Edited 13 April by Richmondfox

[Basildon Fox]

Worryingly poor again today. Doesn't dictate any kind of tempo anymore. Just a passenger ATM.

 

Thought he was the best player in the division first half of the season but like a number of others, his form has dropped off a cliff.

[SafewayFox]

1 minute ago, Basildon Fox said:

Worryingly poor again today. Doesn't dictate any kind of tempo anymore. Just a passenger ATM.

 

Thought he was the best player in the division first half of the season but like a number of others, his form has dropped off a cliff.

I questioned his performances a couple of weeks ago and was met with “Winks isn’t our problem”.

 

He hasn’t been offering an outlet for us to keep the ball, he is physically weak and often gets run past too easily when we’re up against it.

 

I’m not anti Winks at all but if we do get promoted, we would definitely need someone next to him….NOT THE INVERTED FB either.

[Kierzz]

Another player out of form. Gives the ball away frequently now on games. Previously he would give the ball away about once every four games.

 

Great work ethic and energy off the ball today though

[JimJams]

I reckon that like a lot of the squad, he's bollocksed. Added with a lack of confidence due to results in recent months exacerbating the problem.

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

He's lost his form and mojo. Just doing the bare minimum currently. Maybe his simply bored of shovel pass 😂

[martyn]

Exposed hugely today as the game opened up and he got bypassed. He can't be a single pivot if we get promoted.

 

Ball retention has worsened considerably too.

[oundlefox]

He’s gone from being one of our best players pre-Christmas to one of the worst since. 

[Out Foxed]

forgot this geezer played for us

[Tuna]

Really needed Sensi to take the load off him

[eblair]

Alarming how safe on the ball he is atm. Virtually every pass sideways or backwards. Also not great to read first thing he does after games is check his pass completion. 
 

Still think as a screen he’s doing a good job and he’s very honest player. Just need him to back himself a lot more. No coincidence him being crap has meant we look crap

[HarryDee8]

Honestly, winks ain't good enough for the premier league. Otherwise totters wouldn't have let a home grown player go!

[Mike Oxlong]

I like Harry and think he’s enjoying playing for us but I’m not bothered about how many 5 yard passes he makes in a game but would like to see more “product” in terms of meaningful creativity 

[Chrysalis]

Something feels different, I remember him being very involved in the first half of season, now he seems to not be part of a lot of the play.  I dont know if thats a good or bad thing, were we over relying on him, or is he now less effective for us, dont know.

[Lako42]

He loves it here and so do his family. 

 

Think he's dropped off recently though 

[StriderHiryu]

7 hours ago, Basildon Fox said:

Worryingly poor again today. Doesn't dictate any kind of tempo anymore. Just a passenger ATM.

 

Thought he was the best player in the division first half of the season but like a number of others, his form has dropped off a cliff.

IMO that's one of the reasons we fell off a cliff so badly. In every game there's a pattern, if you bypass Winks and either Ricardo / Hamza, you're in immediately. On the transition we were so vulnerable over and over again today.

 

I am a bit suprised he's gone so far off the boil. Anyone can have a bad game, but he's been bad since Leeds away, which even though we lost wasn't down to him.

 

IMO it's a position we need additional cover and rotation in, which is why I think we tried to sign Sensi in January.

[Chrysalis]

8 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

IMO that's one of the reasons we fell off a cliff so badly. In every game there's a pattern, if you bypass Winks and either Ricardo / Hamza, you're in immediately. On the transition we were so vulnerable over and over again today.

 

I am a bit suprised he's gone so far off the boil. Anyone can have a bad game, but he's been bad since Leeds away, which even though we lost wasn't down to him.

 

IMO it's a position we need additional cover and rotation in, which is why I think we tried to sign Sensi in January.

Yeah one of the things he seems to have stopped doing is professional fouls, deffo remember him doing that often earlier in the season to prevent break away attacks.  Or maybe he is and I am just not noticing, I just remember noticing him far more often in games.

Edited 20 April by Chrysalis