Wilfred Ndidi

[Arriba Los Zorros]

2 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Aye.  It’s a Cracker….

 

In fact with  a Akgun will Travel, & Cannon to the left,and Cannons to the right, wait until its Cannons in bloody front of them..

With us Fatawu..ing them ,then Mavi(didi) men,with a nod & a Wink,leaving them in a Nelson…

with scripts from that young  Sir ( Conan) Doyle pre-written, leaving all opposition

in  such a Castadei-lock!!

 

AFConned our competitors,leaving Foxes Albrighton & cosy in a K.dewsbury-Hall,

dance soon ready to rattle up a Enzo ball Vardy-party.

 

Carry on like this, we will give ‘em all chance by  leaving the Mads at the door..

 

What a difference half a year makes…We have picked up all the gauntlets,that challenged us,each time a different knight found to ease any challenge.

Each Faes we are prepared and take Vestergaard of all our rescources..

You have gone full mad at last 

[Jobyfox]

1 hour ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

There is being derailed, but it would require such a big swing in the favour of Ipswich, Southampton and particularly Leeds that it’s barely credible. 
 

I don’t have the PPG data, but take Southampton as an example. They need 14 points or more than us to overtake us. That’s the equivalent of winning 5 more games than us - which would be 25% of the remaining 20 fixtures. Not going to happen, particularly as now we are only seriously missing Ndidi who is a big miss, but not sure he’s a miss that size.

 

As we frequently demonstrate - and particularly at home - we can be in first and second gear and despatch most teams in this league. So I think we’ll be fine losing Ndidi for however long.

I’m the most pragmatic and risk averse individual going when it comes to following Leicester, but even I am getting close to the point of writing Leeds off. If we extend the gap to 20 or still have the 17 point gap in 5 games time I will be drawing a line through their name. 
 

That’s not to say that Leeds couldn’t still close the gap, but a swing that big would have to be closed by a major collapse in our form and Leeds catching us would probably be the least of our worries. A swing of 20 points would indicate that we’ve gone seriously off the rails to an extent that another clubs form would be largely irrelevant 

[Stadt]

If you were a manager with limited number of players to pick, you wouldn't call up somebody with an injury. Even if he's unavailable for just 2 games why bother?

 

Maresca is astute enough to play on this perfectly

[Lionator]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

There's a very good chance he leaves us in the summer, his commitment to us seems unquestionable this season, but would he honestly do that given the near future? 

I think based on his performances, his position is the one where we need to spend big over the summer as it’s going to be the difference between our system working in the prem and us doing a Burnley, I’m not sure Wilf will be good enough to play in that position at Prem level. 

[messerschmitt]

3 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I think based on his performances, his position is the one where we need to spend big over the summer as it’s going to be the difference between our system working in the prem and us doing a Burnley, I’m not sure Wilf will be good enough to play in that position at Prem level. 

A very good point but I didn't think he would be good enough to do it in the championship and he's one of the best.

[ealingfox]

If he makes a mysterious and miraculous recovery in time to start against Cov then ladies and gentlemen, the Spirit of Pearson has been revived and we well and truly have our club back.

[honeybradger]

2 hours ago, Tielemans63 said:

Can I just say, whoever started this thread is an idiot whose opinions on players cannot be taken seriously 

It was incredible the number of fans who were willing to completely write off one of our best ever players. Even worse are the fans at the start of this thread who said he hadnt been good in 4 years. 2019 was 4 years ago and he was still excellent (when not injured) in 2020 and 2021.

[MPH]

 

 

 i reckon he wants to go somewhere in January and so is milking this injury malarky to try and get a move now rather than later

[MPH]

Just now, honeybradger said:

It was incredible the number of fans who were willing to completely write off one of our best ever players. Even worse are the fans at the start of this thread who said he hadnt been good in 4 years. 2019 was 4 years ago and he was still excellent (when not injured) in 2020 and 2021.

 

 

I think he was bad enough for long enough to get some flak. We all know how good he can be, but that means nothing if he isnt performing. fortunately for us, he looks reborn.

[honeybradger]

11 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

 

I think he was bad enough for long enough to get some flak. We all know how good he can be, but that means nothing if he isnt performing. fortunately for us, he looks reborn.

I think the period that he was bad for gets inflated on here. I have seen people try and argue that he was bad in the 2020/2021 season which was one of his best. He's only had 2 seasons that were bad for us and that was 21/22 and 22/23 and he was injured for half of 21/22. 

 

The nature of the abuse he was getting was uncalled for as well, it's fine to say that he's playing badly but calling him a donkey etc when he's one of the best midfielders to ever wear the shirt is out of line.

[James_lcfc]

16 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

It was incredible the number of fans who were willing to completely write off one of our best ever players. Even worse are the fans at the start of this thread who said he hadnt been good in 4 years. 2019 was 4 years ago and he was still excellent (when not injured) in 2020 and 2021.

Amazing how many times you have to read posts like this.

 

He was genuinely terrible for nearly two years - At what point are you allowed to write a player off??

 

His comeback has been fantastic regardless of the level he's playing at, but fans were well within their rights to hope he was moved on at the start of the season.

 

A few on here mentioned that he had been suffering with long Covid along with some personal problems which had a big effect on him. Obviously that would explain the awful performances, but when you're not privy to this as fans you can only really go on what you see on the pitch...

[fuchsntf]

45 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

You have gone full mad at last 

Wheeeeee yupppppooo arribaaaaaa 

 

Como se escribe nariz en inglés?
-Nose
-¿Tú tampoco? Parece que nadie lo sabe.

 

whupppidideee..

[MPH]

1 hour ago, honeybradger said:

I think the period that he was bad for gets inflated on here. I have seen people try and argue that he was bad in the 2020/2021 season which was one of his best. He's only had 2 seasons that were bad for us and that was 21/22 and 22/23 and he was injured for half of 21/22. 

 

The nature of the abuse he was getting was uncalled for as well, it's fine to say that he's playing badly but calling him a donkey etc when he's one of the best midfielders to ever wear the shirt is out of line.

 

 

 

Thats plenty of time for someone to catch some flak, and deservedly so.

[Nolucklcfc]

Hopefully we can get him to sign a new deal but I fear he might fancy a new challenge elsewhere 

[Viva]

1 hour ago, honeybradger said:

It was incredible the number of fans who were willing to completely write off one of our best ever players. Even worse are the fans at the start of this thread who said he hadnt been good in 4 years. 2019 was 4 years ago and he was still excellent (when not injured) in 2020 and 2021.

Two years of poor performances, including being one of the worst performers in the team that got relegated, means that fans are allowed to criticise and potentially want a sale with one year left on his contract. 
 

What he’s done this season has been great, which is down to a good manager getting the best out of him in a different position. 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

2 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Wheeeeee yupppppooo arribaaaaaa 

 

Como se escribe nariz en inglés?
-Nose
-¿Tú tampoco? Parece que nadie lo sabe.

 

whupppidideee..

Eres el zorro loco. Crazy like a fox

[Turtle27]

Perfect scenario: Starts against Cov and announces new contract 👌…….. oh and we win of course 

[HarryDee8]

Fricking hell, we just need daka to "stub" his little toe in the ground and souttar to say he's go the sniffles and well have a full team!

Edited 3 January 2024 by HarryDee8

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

3 hours ago, Jobyfox said:

I’m the most pragmatic and risk averse individual going when it comes to following Leicester, but even I am getting close to the point of writing Leeds off. If we extend the gap to 20 or still have the 17 point gap in 5 games time I will be drawing a line through their name. 
 

That’s not to say that Leeds couldn’t still close the gap, but a swing that big would have to be closed by a major collapse in our form and Leeds catching us would probably be the least of our worries. A swing of 20 points would indicate that we’ve gone seriously off the rails to an extent that another clubs form would be largely irrelevant 

I think the only thing could be if Enzo leaves for whatever reason, but again I can’t see it. His stock will rise dramatically if he delivers what he is on course to deliver.

[fuchsntf]

2 hours ago, Viva said:

Two years of poor performances, including being one of the worst performers in the team that got relegated, means that fans are allowed to criticise and potentially want a sale with one year left on his contract. 
 

What he’s done this season has been great, which is down to a good manager getting the best out of him in a different position. 

Maybe it started the generation before Rooney era,but football followers can’t just have pot shot on old values,it’s cheap & Lazy punditry…

 

The modern inury type lists have been changing through the decades across all Sports,weather,longer seasons,extra honourary /close season tournaments.

Charity meets,constant media travelling…Then the recovery time needed just on the injury itself,then mental pressure from oneself & your bosses to return…

Vardy,Chilwell,Ndidi,Soyuncu, ( Justin,Barnes) long time chronic injuries,with trying to return early…} like Rooney etc { …several times before properly healed…if ever..

 

Match fit has another mean quality level today…For example Ndidi these last 3 weeks seemed to be carrying, Barnes last season,was never game fit…

 

BUT we fans want ,demand !!  that our stars are out there…and unlike the past,

the most clubs academies like reserves of yesteryear just can’t deliver that quality,

on a stretched out cover basis…Fringe squad players are more of must,but because of financial mismatch or caches will suffer on quality levels..

Our Sports physical & mental demands have  changed immensly at the high levels,and we ( now  outsiders) do find it difficult to accept a bucket of water and sponge era remedy is long gone…Pearsons teams  of B.Room. Staff understood that..Ranieri didn’t,but still used it before dismantling it the following season.

 

Because a player is selected on gameday, we shouldn’t judge him necessarily on his expected high quality level….Young & Melrose days also a bloody good example,Probably the two most injected players in our history.

 

I really have no answer,and with ridiculous vast sums being payed to players,one understands most fans negative feelings and critic…

But we are being short  changed,it’s a sort of a chink within the system that’s ran out of control…

One reason I often ask for unterstanding,patience  & protect individual players,because a club or sport will not freely give this Info of players struggles,and that they need a full season before they are  even near Gamefit..!!

[DJ Barry Hammond]

@fuchsntf - you make a good point about injuries and fans expectations which led me to seeing if there’s any data on this.

That led me to this article, which within it highlighted that;

 

Their September 2022 “European Football Injury Index” report states that there were 495 injuries in the 2018/19 Premier League campaign, followed by 562 player injuries in the 2019/20 season.

 

However, that figure then shot up to 938 injuries in 2020/21. And then in 2021/22, that number went up further to 1,231.

 

So between 2020/21 and 2021/22, there was a 30% increase in the number of injuries in the Premier League.

 

https://footyaccumulators.com/news/premier-league/which-premier-league-sides-have-been-impacted-the-most-by-injuries-so-far-this-season#:~:text=Their September 2022 “European Football,went up further to 1%2C231.

 

I then went to find the latest report complied by Howden Group;

 

https://www.howdengroupholdings.com/sites/g/files/mwfley1156/files/2023-11/8794_Football_Injury_Index_V1.pdf

 

It’s hugely detailed, yet well presented and very interesting if you like this sort of thing.

[fuchsntf]

7 hours ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

@fuchsntf - you make a good point about injuries and fans expectations which led me to seeing if there’s any data on this.

That led me to this article, which within it highlighted that;

 

Their September 2022 “European Football Injury Index” report states that there were 495 injuries in the 2018/19 Premier League campaign, followed by 562 player injuries in the 2019/20 season.

 

However, that figure then shot up to 938 injuries in 2020/21. And then in 2021/22, that number went up further to 1,231.

 

So between 2020/21 and 2021/22, there was a 30% increase in the number of injuries in the Premier League.

 

https://footyaccumulators.com/news/premier-league/which-premier-league-sides-have-been-impacted-the-most-by-injuries-so-far-this-season#:~:text=Their September 2022 “European Football,went up further to 1%2C231.

 

I then went to find the latest report complied by Howden Group;

 

https://www.howdengroupholdings.com/sites/g/files/mwfley1156/files/2023-11/8794_Football_Injury_Index_V1.pdf

 

It’s hugely detailed, yet well presented and very interesting if you like this sort of thing.

It’s good that they have numbers,but it doesn’t valuations,those long, niggling injuries/short niggles/chronic injuries/ how many times returning to doctors table,with same or knock on injuries..

plus the loss of players,quality,when injuries not correctly healed or cured,over 1 month/3 months/ 6 months /1-2 seasons and effect on squad and club

 

Nomatter how blind I think Rodgers was,tactics,injury effects etc,I am sure in his defence,

our chronic injuries over those European seasons,amounting to us missing out twice on 4th,

for a club of our stature,with not a great spread of stars,just can’t hold that „ overachieving“ era,

until the end of the season,not just us but this for me is the reason we „also rans“,just can’t keep 

EOS run-ins ,running into those last 2 months. That mental strength gets simply drawn out of the individuals,

who have been repetitively challenged,because of those injuries they haven’t ever seen them …match-fit.

Big clubs,because of 18+ top quality players ,in comparison to We „also rans“ fighting the right to challenge.

last 6 seasons,with 2-3 clubs pushing that top 5 & failing  sort of proves it..

 

plus this season in the championship, We the foxes simply have for this division, an high quality of players sitting

( in our case,regular games) and creating a quality squad of 20+ players,that would be first choice in our opponents team.

Enzo was wise to make sure 98% of the squad have had their fair share of games…

There is of yet not one player Enzo couldn’t cover for 4-5 games..or a position that is not droppable.

Including Winks/Vestergaard.

[SafewayFox]

10 hours ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

@fuchsntf - you make a good point about injuries and fans expectations which led me to seeing if there’s any data on this.

That led me to this article, which within it highlighted that;

 

Their September 2022 “European Football Injury Index” report states that there were 495 injuries in the 2018/19 Premier League campaign, followed by 562 player injuries in the 2019/20 season.

 

However, that figure then shot up to 938 injuries in 2020/21. And then in 2021/22, that number went up further to 1,231.

 

So between 2020/21 and 2021/22, there was a 30% increase in the number of injuries in the Premier League.

 

https://footyaccumulators.com/news/premier-league/which-premier-league-sides-have-been-impacted-the-most-by-injuries-so-far-this-season#:~:text=Their September 2022 “European Football,went up further to 1%2C231.

 

I then went to find the latest report complied by Howden Group;

 

https://www.howdengroupholdings.com/sites/g/files/mwfley1156/files/2023-11/8794_Football_Injury_Index_V1.pdf

 

It’s hugely detailed, yet well presented and very interesting if you like this sort of thing.

Good post mate.

 

I am surprised that more ex pros aren’t using injuries as another stick to hit with VAR with.

 

The added stop/start and extended periods surely isn’t ideal for an elite sportsman?

 

You can’t feel for the very (over) well paid footballers but they are def treated like robots by the TV channels and worse even some managers, Rodgers over playing players is a prime example.

[Les-TA-Jon]

19 hours ago, messerschmitt said:

A very good point but I didn't think he would be good enough to do it in the championship and he's one of the best.

Ndidi has transitioned to an 8 very effectively this season, but as good as he's been for us at this level, the amount of final balls/shots of his that go amiss would probably cost us in the PL...

 

If Ndidi had a better final ball and could score he'd probably be outdoing KDH for G+A

[James_lcfc]

3 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Ndidi has transitioned to an 8 very effectively this season, but as good as he's been for us at this level, the amount of final balls/shots of his that go amiss would probably cost us in the PL...

 

If Ndidi had a better final ball and could score he'd probably be outdoing KDH for G+A

It's weird, as his final ball whether a shot or cross is sometimes more controlled and measured than even the best attacking players.

 

...and yet sometimes it's worse than an '06 Josh Low. You just never know what's coming.

 

I guess it's because he's still very new to the position, but it's fun to watch at least.