The "do they mean us?" thread pt 4

[Silva Fox]

2 minutes ago, NZ_Foxile said:

 

Come on then own up who has?

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, Silva Fox said:

Come on then own up who has?

Last week 

[Sly]

On 19/08/2026 at 15:43, AKCJ said:

Based on the fact we've got one of the strongest sides in the division and a manager that has no real business managing a club this low down the pyramid.

 

Nothing is great, or even good at the moment. But suggesting things couldn't get worse with new owners is clearly bollocks.

 

No side has ever had their season defined by one league game. Especially when half the attack we've got is injured.

You could have typed this last season in fairness @AKCJ. I agree on paper and reputation, we should have the strongest team. Football and our last 3 season just haven’t played out like that. 
 

We are just in free fall and almost in a state of shock, with how bad we have become. 

We can’t defend, don’t generate chances and don’t really have a striker I am confident will hit 15 - 20 goals this season. 
 

After 2 league games where we are lucky to have a single point, I am widely expecting us to finish mid to bottom half at best.

 

The player exudes still has another week to go yet, so this squad will likely be even weaker than it is now.
 

The academy players will get given more time, however realistically, they’ve not shown anything to suggest they are yet ready to push us out of this division (yet). 
 

We are maybe in for a season of limbo, however if it stops the rot, that might be a good think at this stage. 

[davieG]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgylrex4gyo

 

Martin's reputation on line as he tries to halt Leicester slide
Russell Martin during Leicester's matchy with Ipswich

Russell Martin has won just two league games since May 2024

ByJoe Lynskey
Senior journalist

A draw and a defeat to start their League One season. One victory in 11 league matches. A player exodus. A new manager already under pressure. And the club up for sale.

These are, to put it mildly, not happy times for anyone connected with Leicester City.

The club are in a very different place than they were a decade ago, when they were basking in the joy of being the Premier League's most unlikely champions.

Celebrations marking that 10-year anniversary throughout the year are unlikely to offer supporters much respite. The reminder of those glory days might even pour more salt in the wounds.

Soon after the Foxes were relegated from the Championship, King Power Stadium hosted a 10-year anniversary match which was billed as the 5,000-1 celebration - their initial odds for winning the league in 2015-16.

Players from that Foxes squad faced an All Star XI managed by Tony Pulis and in scorching conditions in front of about 5,000 fans, it finished 0-0.

Sixteen days later, Russell Martin was appointed manager. He joins with his reputation under the spotlight as he faces the task of turning around the Foxes' downward spiral to the third tier for the first time since 2009.

Since May 2024, when he led Southampton to the Premier League through the play-offs, Martin has won just two league games in charge of Saints and Rangers, whom he managed for just 123 days.

Leicester have started the league season with a draw at Notts County and a 2-1 defeat at home to Burton Albion.

That result led to a number of bets being placed on the club to drop even further - into League Two. Their odds of a third successive relegation are now 33-1.

Leicester's alarming start to the season is amid a backdrop of uncertainty off the field, with Thai owners King Power seeking to sell the club after 16 years in charge.

An eight-page sales booklet has been produced to help attract potential buyers, but no official announcement about the sale has come from the Srivaddhanaprabha family, who run King Power.

Concerns about Leicester's ownership have grown since 2022, when they invested heavily in the transfer market but then failed to qualify for European football.

The Foxes' accounts revealed they lost nearly £100m in both 2021-22 and 2022-23, resulting in a six-point deduction for breaches in profit and sustainability regulations in 2025-26.

Leicester finished last season in 23rd place in the Championship, five points adrift of safety.

Some supporters have let their feelings be known about Leicester's ownership

Martin was given a three-year contract when he joined in June and while the personnel in the squad will change before the transfer window closes, the first four competitive games of the season have brought doubts about the suitability of his style.

"He was not a popular choice with the fans," says Lynn Wyeth, a member of the Foxes Trust.

"We're not particularly enamoured with the 'tippy tappy' passing football. That doesn't work if you've got players who can't do it, and you put yourselves under pressure at the back.

"But maybe he'll get his new boys being able to play how he wants them to."

Funds have been generated this summer with the sales of Abdul Fatawu to Ipswich Town and 17-year-old Jeremy Monga to Manchester City.

However highly paid players remain from Leicester's Premier League days, with the former Tottenham midfielder Oliver Skipp sent off against Burton.

The latest signing is 19-year-old Finnish defender Ilari Kangasniemi, a ball-playing six foot six inch centre-back who many in his home country hope will develop into the next Sami Hyypia.

Playing out from the back is a key part of Martin's philosophy and Leicester had 73% overall possession in the defeat to Burton.

On Saturday they travel to face MK Dons, where Martin began his managerial career and where his reputation for patient, possession-oriented football was first established.

Foxes fans are used to seeing that kind of style - with mixed results - having watched teams managed by Brendan Rodgers, Enzo Maresca and Marti Cifuentes in recent years.

"I worry that it's a team that doesn't look as if it's got enough fight in it for a League One battle," Phil Holloway, of Leicester Fan TV, told the BBC Leicester podcast, When You're Smiling.

"I'm not here calling for Russell Martin out, although a lot of fans have already done that. I just feel like we want to change the style of football as a fanbase. But it's not going to happen under Russell Martin."

Martin's time at Rangers marked a particularly low point in the 40-year-old's management journey. Their only Scottish Premiership victory was thanks to an added-time winner against Livingston. He was sacked in October 2025.

Martin was sacked as Rangers head coach after 17 games in charge

There were, though, signs of progress for Leicester in their 3-1 defeat to Ipswich Town in the Carabao Cup. After testing Premier League opposition, Martin felt his squad was turning a corner.

"The team is so young," he told BBC Radio Leicester.

"We haven't been together very long. We've signed a lot of players, there's been a lot of change. The energy at this club has been really difficult for two years - that takes a lot of energy to shift that energy round."

It is 17 years since Leicester City last played in the third tier of English football. At times, that period has felt like the most precipitous football rollercoaster.

Promotion to the Championship in 2009 was followed by defeat to Watford in the 2013 play-off semi-finals, a game made famous for a late winner scored by Troy Deeney.

Leicester reached the Premier League the following season, famously survived relegation and then won the title.

Anniversary celebrations for the 2015-16 Premier League champions continue into October but that exhilarating summer now feels like a distant memory.

The decade that has followed has included a Champions League quarter-final, an FA Cup win, one promotion from the Championship and three relegations.

In the latest chapter in the story of their post-title win, Leicester fans will hope the early season problems are the result of a young squad adjusting to new methods, rather than a sign their club could fall even further.

[AKCJ]

"Russell Martin has won just two league games since May 2024"

 

What an insane stat that is.

[davieG]

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/videos/c0j3w52ny27o

 

Is Leicester's manager actually holding them back?

 

 

EFL boss leaps to Russell Martin defence with stark Leicester City 'carnage' verdict | Leicestershire Live

 

Josh Holland's interpretation.

 

EFL boss leaps to Russell Martin defence with stark Leicester City 'carnage' verdict
Russell Martin has faced early criticism after Leicester City's League One star

Josh Holland Leicester City correspondent
10:15, 27 Aug 2026
Tranmere Rovers boss Darrell Clarke has defended Russell Martin's start to life at Leicester City amid "carnage" at the football club. City have failed to win in their first two League One games, falling to a 2-1 home defeat to Burton.

After drawing to Notts County on the opening day, Leicester sit in the bottom half of the table, their lowest-ever league position in its 142-year history. The Foxes are heavy favourites to earn promotion back to the Championship, and still are, but the start has caused doubts.

On the BBC's '72+ EFL podcast', Aaron Paul and Jobi McAnuff joined Clarke in debating Leicester's poor start, with Martin's style of play highlighted as a concern. "In my heart of hearts, I don't think this is right," Paul said. "Because he is so rigid on the style of play and this is how we're going to do it.

"When it doesn't work, the supporters are going to get frustrated. And when they concede a goal, the heads are going to drop. Surely, to play his style of play, firstly you need morale to be at a certain level, you need to be operating at an optimum level. But also you need the players to buy in, you need everyone to be unified at the club."

McAnuff responded by asking questions about the suitability within the squad to play Martin's system. "For me, I come back to if I was the manager of Leicester City, looking at that group of players, first and foremost, are they capable of playing that way?

"I've got to be honest, I look through that team and I go, I'm not quite sure. [Caleb] Okoli, you know, is he super comfortable on the ball? No. Oliver Skipp as your defensive midfielder, he's not somebody who is going to go and dominate the ball and be comfortable taking it under big pressure - which is what Russell Martin expects his players to be able to do.

Russell Martin

"It's a fragile group and a fragile club. One that has so much negativity around it. So my first job would be, let's get some positivity around, however we have to do that."

Clarke, who has managed over 400 games in the EFL, leaped to the defence of Martin and claimed that he must be given time before being judged. "The place is carnage guys," he said.

"There's so many things. The owners have put the club up for sale. There's senior players that think they are miles better than their level. Russell is trying to manage all this by implementing a style of play, that's how he likes to play the game and he's very good at it.

"But his history will tell you, that takes time. Sometimes it's short term pain for long term gain and that's tough because League One's a tough division.

"Leicester will, by their fan base, be expecting to walk the league - doesn't happen like that, especially when you've got so much carnage in the building as well. I think they've got to let things calm down.

"Let's see where they are at 10/12 games and I wouldn't be surprised if they were in the top 10 and pushing in the top six after then."

[Spudulike]

9 minutes ago, davieG said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgylrex4gyo

 

Martin's reputation on line as he tries to halt Leicester slide
Russell Martin during Leicester's matchy with Ipswich

Russell Martin has won just two league games since May 2024

ByJoe Lynskey
Senior journalist

A draw and a defeat to start their League One season. One victory in 11 league matches. A player exodus. A new manager already under pressure. And the club up for sale.

These are, to put it mildly, not happy times for anyone connected with Leicester City.

The club are in a very different place than they were a decade ago, when they were basking in the joy of being the Premier League's most unlikely champions.

Celebrations marking that 10-year anniversary throughout the year are unlikely to offer supporters much respite. The reminder of those glory days might even pour more salt in the wounds.

Soon after the Foxes were relegated from the Championship, King Power Stadium hosted a 10-year anniversary match which was billed as the 5,000-1 celebration - their initial odds for winning the league in 2015-16.

Players from that Foxes squad faced an All Star XI managed by Tony Pulis and in scorching conditions in front of about 5,000 fans, it finished 0-0.

Sixteen days later, Russell Martin was appointed manager. He joins with his reputation under the spotlight as he faces the task of turning around the Foxes' downward spiral to the third tier for the first time since 2009.

Since May 2024, when he led Southampton to the Premier League through the play-offs, Martin has won just two league games in charge of Saints and Rangers, whom he managed for just 123 days.

Leicester have started the league season with a draw at Notts County and a 2-1 defeat at home to Burton Albion.

That result led to a number of bets being placed on the club to drop even further - into League Two. Their odds of a third successive relegation are now 33-1.

Leicester's alarming start to the season is amid a backdrop of uncertainty off the field, with Thai owners King Power seeking to sell the club after 16 years in charge.

An eight-page sales booklet has been produced to help attract potential buyers, but no official announcement about the sale has come from the Srivaddhanaprabha family, who run King Power.

Concerns about Leicester's ownership have grown since 2022, when they invested heavily in the transfer market but then failed to qualify for European football.

The Foxes' accounts revealed they lost nearly £100m in both 2021-22 and 2022-23, resulting in a six-point deduction for breaches in profit and sustainability regulations in 2025-26.

Leicester finished last season in 23rd place in the Championship, five points adrift of safety.

Some supporters have let their feelings be known about Leicester's ownership

Martin was given a three-year contract when he joined in June and while the personnel in the squad will change before the transfer window closes, the first four competitive games of the season have brought doubts about the suitability of his style.

"He was not a popular choice with the fans," says Lynn Wyeth, a member of the Foxes Trust.

"We're not particularly enamoured with the 'tippy tappy' passing football. That doesn't work if you've got players who can't do it, and you put yourselves under pressure at the back.

"But maybe he'll get his new boys being able to play how he wants them to."

Funds have been generated this summer with the sales of Abdul Fatawu to Ipswich Town and 17-year-old Jeremy Monga to Manchester City.

However highly paid players remain from Leicester's Premier League days, with the former Tottenham midfielder Oliver Skipp sent off against Burton.

The latest signing is 19-year-old Finnish defender Ilari Kangasniemi, a ball-playing six foot six inch centre-back who many in his home country hope will develop into the next Sami Hyypia.

Playing out from the back is a key part of Martin's philosophy and Leicester had 73% overall possession in the defeat to Burton.

On Saturday they travel to face MK Dons, where Martin began his managerial career and where his reputation for patient, possession-oriented football was first established.

Foxes fans are used to seeing that kind of style - with mixed results - having watched teams managed by Brendan Rodgers, Enzo Maresca and Marti Cifuentes in recent years.

"I worry that it's a team that doesn't look as if it's got enough fight in it for a League One battle," Phil Holloway, of Leicester Fan TV, told the BBC Leicester podcast, When You're Smiling.

"I'm not here calling for Russell Martin out, although a lot of fans have already done that. I just feel like we want to change the style of football as a fanbase. But it's not going to happen under Russell Martin."

Martin's time at Rangers marked a particularly low point in the 40-year-old's management journey. Their only Scottish Premiership victory was thanks to an added-time winner against Livingston. He was sacked in October 2025.

Martin was sacked as Rangers head coach after 17 games in charge

There were, though, signs of progress for Leicester in their 3-1 defeat to Ipswich Town in the Carabao Cup. After testing Premier League opposition, Martin felt his squad was turning a corner.

"The team is so young," he told BBC Radio Leicester.

"We haven't been together very long. We've signed a lot of players, there's been a lot of change. The energy at this club has been really difficult for two years - that takes a lot of energy to shift that energy round."

It is 17 years since Leicester City last played in the third tier of English football. At times, that period has felt like the most precipitous football rollercoaster.

Promotion to the Championship in 2009 was followed by defeat to Watford in the 2013 play-off semi-finals, a game made famous for a late winner scored by Troy Deeney.

Leicester reached the Premier League the following season, famously survived relegation and then won the title.

Anniversary celebrations for the 2015-16 Premier League champions continue into October but that exhilarating summer now feels like a distant memory.

The decade that has followed has included a Champions League quarter-final, an FA Cup win, one promotion from the Championship and three relegations.

In the latest chapter in the story of their post-title win, Leicester fans will hope the early season problems are the result of a young squad adjusting to new methods, rather than a sign their club could fall even further.

"The decade that has followed has included a Champions League quarter-final, an FA Cup win, one promotion from the Championship and three relegations."

 

That should also include two top-6 finishes, Championship winners (not just promotion) and Euro Conf League semi-finalists. Makes it even more astonishing 

 

 

[ealingfox]

At the lowest level we have ever been in over 140 years of history but somehow we are still being called entitled for thinking the team should be doing better.

[Finnegan]

On 19/08/2026 at 15:43, AKCJ said:

a manager that has no real business managing a club this low down the pyramid

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

50 minutes ago, davieG said:

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/videos/c0j3w52ny27o

 

Is Leicester's manager actually holding them back?

 

 

EFL boss leaps to Russell Martin defence with stark Leicester City 'carnage' verdict | Leicestershire Live

 

Josh Holland's interpretation.

 

EFL boss leaps to Russell Martin defence with stark Leicester City 'carnage' verdict
Russell Martin has faced early criticism after Leicester City's League One star

Josh Holland Leicester City correspondent
10:15, 27 Aug 2026
Tranmere Rovers boss Darrell Clarke has defended Russell Martin's start to life at Leicester City amid "carnage" at the football club. City have failed to win in their first two League One games, falling to a 2-1 home defeat to Burton.

After drawing to Notts County on the opening day, Leicester sit in the bottom half of the table, their lowest-ever league position in its 142-year history. The Foxes are heavy favourites to earn promotion back to the Championship, and still are, but the start has caused doubts.

On the BBC's '72+ EFL podcast', Aaron Paul and Jobi McAnuff joined Clarke in debating Leicester's poor start, with Martin's style of play highlighted as a concern. "In my heart of hearts, I don't think this is right," Paul said. "Because he is so rigid on the style of play and this is how we're going to do it.

"When it doesn't work, the supporters are going to get frustrated. And when they concede a goal, the heads are going to drop. Surely, to play his style of play, firstly you need morale to be at a certain level, you need to be operating at an optimum level. But also you need the players to buy in, you need everyone to be unified at the club."

McAnuff responded by asking questions about the suitability within the squad to play Martin's system. "For me, I come back to if I was the manager of Leicester City, looking at that group of players, first and foremost, are they capable of playing that way?

"I've got to be honest, I look through that team and I go, I'm not quite sure. [Caleb] Okoli, you know, is he super comfortable on the ball? No. Oliver Skipp as your defensive midfielder, he's not somebody who is going to go and dominate the ball and be comfortable taking it under big pressure - which is what Russell Martin expects his players to be able to do.

Russell Martin

"It's a fragile group and a fragile club. One that has so much negativity around it. So my first job would be, let's get some positivity around, however we have to do that."

Clarke, who has managed over 400 games in the EFL, leaped to the defence of Martin and claimed that he must be given time before being judged. "The place is carnage guys," he said.

"There's so many things. The owners have put the club up for sale. There's senior players that think they are miles better than their level. Russell is trying to manage all this by implementing a style of play, that's how he likes to play the game and he's very good at it.

"But his history will tell you, that takes time. Sometimes it's short term pain for long term gain and that's tough because League One's a tough division.

"Leicester will, by their fan base, be expecting to walk the league - doesn't happen like that, especially when you've got so much carnage in the building as well. I think they've got to let things calm down.

"Let's see where they are at 10/12 games and I wouldn't be surprised if they were in the top 10 and pushing in the top six after then."

Sorry, why is a current manager of another club on what is basically a pundit show on the BBC commentating about us? That is wild

[honeybradger]

Play like we did against Ipswich and we are comfortable in the league on 4-6 points.

 

The issue is that we have hamstrung ourselves in the first 2 games with Skipp, Cullen, Souttar and Okoli. Dare I say it but Burns's lack of ability to take players on hasn't helped either.

 

With Page back in the team we will be much better.

Edited 27 August by honeybradger

[Free Falling Foxes]

15 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Sorry, why is a current manager of another club on what is basically a pundit show on the BBC commentating about us? That is wild

I like his forthright view about some of our senior players.

We've known it for 3 or 4 seasons, clearly other professionals in the game see it too.

[davieG]

32 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Play like we did against Ipswich and we are comfortable in the league on 4-6 points.

 

The issue is that we have hamstrung ourselves in the first 2 games with Skipp, Cullen, Souttar and Okoli. Dare I say it but Burns's lack of ability to take players on hasn't helped either.

 

With Page back in the team we will be much better.

He's already taling about Okoli and souttar back for MKDons

[Blue ROI]

2 hours ago, AKCJ said:

"Russell Martin has won just two league games since May 2024"

 

What an insane stat that is.

Another Rudkin masterclass 

[Stuntman_Mike]

1 hour ago, ealingfox said:

At the lowest level we have ever been in over 140 years of history but somehow we are still being called entitled for thinking the team should be doing better.

Also, even if you take away the trophies we won, if what has happened to us as an established PL club for 10 years, happened to say Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford etc in L1 and their fans were pissed off, it would be completely understandable and people would question how it's happened despite them being more like L1 clubs traditionally. 

 

People use the trophies as a way of defending the mess, like because we did well we shouldn't complain. It doesn't make any sense.

[honeybradger]

41 minutes ago, davieG said:

He's already taling about Okoli and souttar back for MKDons

If they start then there's no way to defend him.

 

We looked better with 2 fullbacks at centre back than with those 2.

[davieG]

50 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

If they start then there's no way to defend him.

 

We looked better with 2 fullbacks at centre back than with those 2.

Post-match, Martin was asked about the thinking behind naming four full-backs in his starting XI. He said: "Why not? Caleb's [Okoli] injured. Souttar is, like I said, like so many of them, he's only been back from the World Cup four weeks, [he's] played a lot of football in that time.

 

"And he's also still finding his way back after a long-term injury. So to play him tonight would then compromise him for Saturday. With Caleb, who we hope will be fit for Saturday, that's too big of a risk.

 

Russell Martin explains Leicester City decision after surprise team selection | Leicestershire Live

 

I can't see him starting IIari

[davieG]

League one ( EFL)  · 

Efl Gateway

 

An incredible 5,968 Leicester City supporters packed into Stadium MK today. Absolutely outstanding away support from the Foxes! #lcfc

[Trav Le Bleu]

On 27/08/2026 at 13:51, davieG said:

Post-match, Martin was asked about the thinking behind naming four full-backs in his starting XI. He said: "Why not? Caleb's [Okoli] injured. Souttar is, like I said, like so many of them, he's only been back from the World Cup four weeks, [he's] played a lot of football in that time.

 

"And he's also still finding his way back after a long-term injury. So to play him tonight would then compromise him for Saturday. With Caleb, who we hope will be fit for Saturday, that's too big of a risk.

 

Russell Martin explains Leicester City decision after surprise team selection | Leicestershire Live

 

I can't see him starting IIari

I worked

[Kinowe Soorie]

[ALC Fox]

2 hours ago, Kinowe Soorie said:

Let's face it, moving here at this point in time is a sideways move at best. And it probably isn't even that right now.

 

But it could be a step up if we go up at the first attempt and he's a part of it. And if he continues and we go up again, then it would be worth it.

 

Wes Morgan wasn't a PL player until he was 30. We do unlikely success stories here.

[davieG]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/clyqvjjq923o

 

'That's a sackable performance' - what next for Martin at Leicester?

Russell Martin was appointed Leicester City boss on 15 June

BySteve Jones
BBC Sport England

"I don't think the manager should get sacked tonight, but that is a sackable performance."

Russell Martin's Leicester City slumped to new depths on Saturday when they were hammered 4-0 at home by Oxford United, conceding three second-half goals in just 20 minutes.

It was their heaviest-ever defeat in the third tier and marked an all-time low in the club's otherwise proud 142-year history, despondent fans told BBC Radio Leicester at full-time.

Not long ago the Foxes were the darlings of English football, a living fairytale after their 2015-16 Premier League title win against all odds.

Many had expected them to stroll through League One after their unexpected relegation last term - their second in as many seasons - but life back in the third tier under the divisive Martin has been far more difficult than envisaged.

Granted, it is still early days, but those who watch the club regularly are already concerned.

"This manager doesn't seem to want to move away, at all, from the pass them to death, that's how we will win a football match," says former Leicester player and BBC Radio Leicester match summariser Matt Piper.

"I'm an advocate of that style when your team is playing well and can execute it in the way that you want it. I'm also an advocate of winning football matches and you can do that in many different ways.

"We have only seen one way from this manager. My fingers are pointing at him this afternoon, even though the team didn't play well.

"I don't think the manager should get sacked tonight, but that is a sackable performance."

Martin is already under pressure from sections of the club's fanbase, who made their feelings clear during Saturday's defeat.

Plenty of Foxes fans voted with their feet after witnessing another defeat

After five league games, he has just one win with two draws and two defeats.

Following a disastrous spell at Rangers, which lasted just 123 days, and his sacking from Southampton, with whom he earned just one win in 16 Premier League games after leading them to promotion, he too is in need of a revival.

While disappointed with the performance against Oxford, which followed an impressive 2-0 midweek win over potential promotion rivals Plymouth Argyle, he remained steadfast in his commitment to the project at the King Power Stadium.

"I'm not concerned about that happening again," he told BBC Radio Leicester.

"I feel I understand what's happened today with so many young guys and a tough moment. We can't quite get through it and after a big, busy period.

"We will be better for it. We have a week now and we have to make sure we put it right next week."

Russell Martin: 'We were naive and a bit soft'

The Foxes started Saturday's game with five players in the starting XI under the age of 23, including two teenagers.

Their five substitutions were aged 18, 19, 20, 21 and 23.

The number of arrivals and departures at the club since their relegation are both well into double figures.

The club, which is also up for sale, is very much in a period of transition.

Martin rued his side's "naivety and inexperience" in their latest defeat, adding: "We had a lot of players who were doing a third game in a week for the first time in their careers, but it's not an excuse.

"But I think that's the learning now - we have to find a team on the pitch, especially in a three-game week that can deliver a consistent level of aggression and a consistent level of energy because the last three games we have built so much energy, so much feel-good factor about it.

"The players and staff, the fans have been brilliant and we had to build on the win on Tuesday night and today we have done the opposite."

There is a genuine uncertainty about whether Martin will be given the time to try to put things right after such a damaging defeat, as Piper explains.

"If you look back over the years, especially at this football club at managers that we have sacked, that looked like a manager that could get sacked tonight."

[FoxesWalk]

On 02/09/2026 at 22:17, Kinowe Soorie said:

He’s not wrong is he, we aren’t a step up right now 

[Stuntman_Mike]

''We had a lot of players who were doing a third game in a week for the first time in their careers, but it's not an excuse.''

 

Makes excuse.

Says it's not an excuse.

 

[LcFc_Smiv]

The bloke who text in RL post match to say he had to listen to Radio Oxford commentary and they were laughing at just how bad we are and not suited to the style of play tells you everything. Weve gone from being one of the most aspirational stories in World football, to a laughing stock, a punch line of a joke. All under Tops stewardship.